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"Individual School Rankings " Top25 from 1989-2003
coolman  06/27/04
I love the post. This could be turned into a new set of ran...
BRIAN_LEITER  06/27/04
Definitive Historical Top 25 1 - Yale (1) =============...
Skeletori Spelling  06/27/04
just to break it down a little differently, here are the res...
theresa  06/27/04
True, UVA is in a league of its own.
Lord_Of_The_Ding  06/28/04
Use of a weighted average would be more applicable
FiveDollaSuckySucky  06/27/04
And which years would you choose to weigh more heavily? The ...
epiphany07  06/27/04
Most recent having most weight
FiveDollaSuckySucky  06/28/04
For the Record....
Richard Grieco  06/27/04
Who cares?
UIUCdude  06/27/04
"Who cares?" I mention it because the rankings ...
Richard Grieco  06/27/04
Can't believe you actually took the time to respond to my post.
UIUCdude  06/27/04
UIUC took a hit, yeah. It's still a very good school. Th...
h4ck3d4cc0unt  06/27/04
what I posted is useful to people who want to apply law scho...
coolman  06/27/04
Why are there some years missing?
Penguin  06/27/04
They didn't issue a ranking for a lot of the early years. I...
KristenMc  06/27/04
yeah but for some, such as Georgetown, they have the ranking...
Penguin  06/27/04
ya, it would skew the average....
lawya  06/27/04
"for some, such as Georgetown, they have the ranking fo...
Richard Grieco  06/28/04
When the overall average for a schools' rank is calculated, ...
Penguin  06/28/04
USC was the bomb in the mid-1990s...
lawya  06/27/04
Urbana was da bomb in the eighties :( They better shape...
Penguin  06/27/04
Trends
The Meanest Fish  06/27/04
what would get people really going is if someone compiled no...
theresa  06/27/04
i wanna see the median LSAT for each of these schools for ev...
lawya  06/27/04
i know someone will do this. i just don't want it to be me.
theresa  06/27/04
the average medians will likely be much much lower than last...
lawya  06/27/04
i'd imagine so. maybe someone should also do "what a 16...
theresa  06/27/04
yes...someone do it. i would but don't have access to all t...
lawya  06/27/04
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LawSchoolRankings/ Have at ...
In Soviet Russia, Rule 12 violates YOU!  06/28/04
Average Scores (1990-2004)
CareyMcWilliams  06/28/04
sweet. i had a feeling it would look like this.
theresa  06/28/04
the average median LSAT..... top1-10 166-171+ top11-25 162...
coolman  06/27/04
I like how the year that Texas was ranked 29 (1998) is left ...
CareyMcWilliams  06/28/04
Wait a minute...
Booger  06/28/04
1987 was the Top 20. That's why Vandy has a (21) in parenth...
CareyMcWilliams  06/28/04
...
The Protege  06/28/04
shouldn't cooley be #29?
AppleSauce  06/28/04
lies... cooley should never be less than three digits...
John Dorian  06/28/04
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Date: June 27th, 2004 8:52 AM
Author: coolman
Subject: "Individual School Rankings " Top25 from 1989-2003

at least 6 times in top 25

1987 Yale 1

1990 Yale 1

1991 Yale 1

1992 Yale 1

1993 Yale 1

1994 Yale 1

1995 Yale 1

1996 Yale 1

1997 Yale 1

1998 Yale 1

1999 Yale 1

2000 Yale 1

2001 Yale 1

2002 Yale 1

2003 Yale 1

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1987 Harvard 1

1990 Harvard 5

1991 Harvard 2

1992 Harvard 2

1993 Harvard 2

1994 Harvard 2

1995 Harvard 2

1996 Harvard 2

1997 Harvard 2

1998 Harvard 2

1999 Harvard 2

2000 Harvard 3

2001 Harvard 3

2002 Harvard 3

2003 Harvard 3

Average: 2.40

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1987 Chicago 6

1990 Chicago 2

1991 Chicago 3

1992 Chicago 4

1993 Chicago 4

1994 Chicago 4

1995 Chicago 4

1996 Chicago 4

1997 Chicago 4

1998 Chicago 4

1999 Chicago 6

2000 Chicago 6

2001 Chicago 6

2002 Chicago 6

2003 Chicago 6

Average: 4.60

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1987 Columbia 4

1990 Columbia 4

1991 Columbia 5

1992 Columbia 5

1993 Columbia 5

1994 Columbia 5

1995 Columbia 5

1996 Columbia 5

1997 Columbia 5

1998 Columbia 4

1999 Columbia 5

2000 Columbia 5

2001 Columbia 4

2002 Columbia 4

2003 Columbia 4

Average: 4.60

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1987 Stanford 4

1990 Stanford 3

1991 Stanford 4

1992 Stanford 3

1993 Stanford 3

1994 Stanford 3

1995 Stanford 2

1996 Stanford 3

1997 Stanford 3

1998 Stanford 2

1999 Stanford 2

2000 Stanford 2

2001 Stanford 2

2002 Stanford 2

2003 Stanford 2

Average: 2.67

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1987 Michigan 3

1990 Michigan 7

1991 Michigan 6

1992 Michigan 6

1993 Michigan 7

1994 Michigan 8

1995 Michigan 8

1996 Michigan 7

1997 Michigan 7

1998 Michigan 8

1999 Michigan 8

2000 Michigan 7

2001 Michigan 7

2002 Michigan 7

2003 Michigan 7

Average: 6.87

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1987 NYU 9

1990 NYU 6

1991 NYU 7

1992 NYU 7

1993 NYU 6

1994 NYU 6

1995 NYU 6

1996 NYU 6

1997 NYU 6

1998 NYU 6

1999 NYU 4

2000 NYU 4

2001 NYU 5

2002 NYU 5

2003 NYU 5

Average: 5.87

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1987 Duke 12

1990 Duke 8

1991 Duke 9

1992 Duke 9

1993 Duke 9

1994 Duke 7

1995 Duke 8

1996 Duke 10

1997 Duke 10

1998 Duke 8

1999 Duke 8

2000 Duke 10

2001 Duke 10

2002 Duke 12

2003 Duke 12

Average: 9.47

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1987 Berkeley 7

1990 Berkeley 13

1991 Berkeley 12

1992 Berkeley 12

1993 Berkeley 12

1994 Berkeley 10

1995 Berkeley 8

1996 Berkeley 12

1997 Berkeley 9

1998 Berkeley 7

1999 Berkeley 10

2000 Berkeley 8

2001 Berkeley 9

2002 Berkeley 7

2003 Berkeley 10

Average: 9.73

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1987 Penn 10

1990 Penn 9

1991 Penn 10

1992 Penn 10

1993 Penn 11

1994 Penn 9

1995 Penn 11

1996 Penn 8

1997 Penn 11

1998 Penn 8

1999 Penn 12

2000 Penn 12

2001 Penn 10

2002 Penn 7

2003 Penn 7

Average: 9.67

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1987 UT 11

1990 UT 16

1991 UT 15

1992 UT 15

1993 UT 15

1994 UT 21

1995 UT 17

1996 UT 18

1997 UT 18

1999 UT 15

2000 UT 15

2001 UT 15

2002 UT 15

2003 UT 15

Average: 15.79

======================

1987 UVA 8

1990 UVA 10

1991 UVA 8

1992 UVA 8

1993 UVA 8

1994 UVA 14

1995 UVA 7

1996 UVA 9

1997 UVA 8

1998 UVA 8

1999 UVA 7

2000 UVA 8

2001 UVA 7

2002 UVA 7

2003 UVA 9

Average: 8.40

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1990 Vanderbilt 15

1991 Vanderbilt 17

1992 Vanderbilt 16

1993 Vanderbilt 16

1994 Vanderbilt 15

1995 Vanderbilt 16

1996 Vanderbilt 16

1997 Vanderbilt 16

1998 Vanderbilt 16

1999 Vanderbilt 16

2000 Vanderbilt 18

2001 Vanderbilt 17

2002 Vanderbilt 17

2003 Vanderbilt 17

Average: 16.29

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1990 Washington & Lee 25

1994 Washington & Lee 22

1995 Washington & Lee 21

1996 Washington & Lee 20

1997 Washington & Lee 25

1998 Washington & Lee 19

1999 Washington & Lee 20

2000 Washington & Lee 20

2001 Washington & Lee 20

2002 Washington & Lee 18

2003 Washington & Lee 19

Average: 20.82

====================

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1990 Notre Dame 19

1991 Notre Dame 24

1992 Notre Dame 20

1993 Notre Dame 20

1996 Notre Dame 25

1997 Notre Dame 21

1998 Notre Dame 25

1999 Notre Dame 21

2002 Notre Dame 24

2003 Notre Dame 22

Average: 22.10

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1987 USC 17

1990 USC 17

1991 USC 16

1992 USC 18

1993 USC 18

1994 USC 18

1995 USC 15

1996 USC 15

1997 USC 15

1998 USC 15

1999 USC 18

2000 USC 17

2001 USC 18

2002 USC 18

2003 USC 18

Average: 16.87

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1987 UCLA 14

1990 UCLA 18

1991 UCLA 18

1992 UCLA 17

1993 UCLA 17

1994 UCLA 16

1995 UCLA 24

1996 UCLA 17

1997 UCLA 17

1998 UCLA 17

1999 UCLA 16

2000 UCLA 16

2001 UCLA 16

2002 UCLA 16

2003 UCLA 16

Average: 17.00

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1987 Minnesota 19

1991 Minnesota 22

1992 Minnesota 21

1993 Minnesota 25

1994 Minnesota 17

1995 Minnesota 18

1996 Minnesota 21

1997 Minnesota 20

1998 Minnesota 18

1999 Minnesota 18

2000 Minnesota 19

2001 Minnesota 19

2002 Minnesota 18

2003 Minnesota 19

Average: 19.57

===========================

1987 Northwestern 16

1990 Northwestern 11

1991 Northwestern 14

1992 Northwestern 13

1993 Northwestern 13

1994 Northwestern 12

1995 Northwestern 11

1996 Northwestern 14

1997 Northwestern 14

1998 Northwestern 12

1999 Northwestern 12

2000 Northwestern 12

2001 Northwestern 13

2002 Northwestern 11

2003 Northwestern 12

Average: 12.67

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1991 Iowa 19

1992 Iowa 25

1993 Iowa 23

1994 Iowa 19

1995 Iowa 19

1997 Iowa 24

1998 Iowa 24

1999 Iowa 23

2000 Iowa 21

2001 Iowa 20

2002 Iowa 18

2003 Iowa 21

Average: 21.33

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1990 George Washington 23

1991 George Washington 22

1992 George Washington 24

1993 George Washington 21

1995 George Washington 22

1996 George Washington 22

1997 George Washington 23

1998 George Washington 20

1999 George Washington 25

2000 George Washington 23

2001 George Washington 23

2002 George Washington 25

2003 George Washington 22

Average: 22.69

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1987 Cornell 15

1990 Cornell 14

1991 Cornell 13

1992 Cornell 14

1993 Cornell 14

1994 Cornell 11

1995 Cornell 14

1996 Cornell 11

1997 Cornell 12

1998 Cornell 12

1999 Cornell 10

2000 Cornell 10

2001 Cornell 12

2002 Cornell 13

2003 Cornell 10

Average: 12.33

===========================

1987 Georgetown 13

1990 Georgetown 12

1991 Georgetown 11

1992 Georgetown 11

1993 Georgetown 10

1994 Georgetown 13

1995 Georgetown 13

1996 Georgetown 12

1997 Georgetown 13

1998 Georgetown 12

1999 Georgetown 14

2000 Georgetown 14

2001 Georgetown 14

2002 Georgetown 14

2003 Georgetown 14

Average: 12.67

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1990 Boston College 20

1992 Boston College 22

1993 Boston College 19

1994 Boston College 24

1997 Boston College 22

1998 Boston College 22

2000 Boston College 23

2001 Boston College 22

2002 Boston College 22

2003 Boston College 22

Average: 21.80

===========================

1987 UIUC 17

1990 UIUC 25

1995 UIUC 20

1996 UIUC 19

1997 UIUC 19

1998 UIUC 20

1999 UIUC 23

2000 UIUC 23

2001 UIUC 23

2002 UIUC 25

2003 UIUC 25

Average: 21.73

===========================

1992 Univ. of Washington 22

1994 Univ. of Washington 25

1996 Univ. of Washington 23

1998 Univ. of Washington 23

1999 Univ. of Washington 25

2001 Univ. of Washington 23

2002 Univ. of Washington 25

Average: 23.71

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1 - Yale (1)

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2 - Harvard (2.40)

Stanford (2.67)

===================

4- Chicago (4.60)

Columbia (4.60)

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5 - NYU (5.87)

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6 - Michigan (6.87)

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8 - UVA (8.40)

===================

9 - Duke (9.47)

Penn (9.67)

Berkeley (9.73)

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12 - Cornell (12.33 )

Georgetown (12.67)

Northwestern (12.67)

===================

15 - UT (15.79)

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16 - Vanderbilt (16.29)

USC (16.87)

===================

17 - UCLA (17.00)

===================

19 - Minnesota (19.57)

===================

20 - Washington & Lee (20.82)

====================

21 - Iowa (21.33)

UIUC (21.73)

Boston College (21.80)

=====================

22 - Notre Dame (22.10)

George Washington (22.69)

===========================

23 - Univ. of Washington (23.71 )

=========================

from 1989-2003

each school must be ranked in top 25 at least 6 times

btw,Why are there some years missing? ---*.mandy.* asked me

ans:

for example, uiuc was not ranked in top 25 from 91-94. Therefore, there are some years missing.

==============================

the average median LSAT.....

top1-10 166-171+

top11-25 162-165+

(1994 top25 ranking)

but u can see 2005 this year the average median LSAT is almost the same, although schools are different.

besides, each school like to accept students who get high LSAT

I believe that

top1-10 166-171+

top11-25 162-165+

is better for u to apply top 25



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#822230)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:16 AM
Author: BRIAN_LEITER

I love the post. This could be turned into a new set of rankings. It is more valuable than a look at even the most recent rankings. Good job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#822341)




Date: June 27th, 2004 12:08 PM
Author: Skeletori Spelling ((o)(o))

Definitive Historical Top 25

1 - Yale (1)

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2 - Harvard (2.40)

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3 - Stanford (2.67)

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4 - Chicago (4.60)

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4 - Columbia (4.60)

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6 - NYU (5.87)

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7 - Michigan (6.87)

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8 - UVA (8.40)

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9 - Duke (9.47)

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10 - Penn (9.67)

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11 - Berkeley (9.73)

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12 - Cornell (12.33 )

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13 - Georgetown (12.67)

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14 - Northwestern (12.67)

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15 - UT (15.79)

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16 - Vanderbilt (16.29)

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17 - USC (16.87)

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18 - UCLA (17.00)

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19 - Minnesota (19.57)

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20 - Washington & Lee (20.82)

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21 - Iowa (21.33)

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22 - UIUC (21.73)

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23 - Boston College (21.80)

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24 - Notre Dame (22.10)

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25 - George Washington (22.69)

Go W & L!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#822453)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:12 PM
Author: theresa

just to break it down a little differently, here are the results as they would appear in groups of "peer" schools:

1. Yale (1)

2. Harvard (2.4), Stanford (2.67)

4. Chicago (4.6), Columbia (4.6)

6. NYU (5.87)

7. Michigan (6.87)

8. UVA (8.4)

9. Duke (9.47), Penn (9.67), Berkeley (9.73)

12. Cornell (12.33), Georgetown (12.67), Northwestern (12.67)

15. Texas (15.79)

16. Vanderbilt (16.29), USC (16.87), UCLA (17.0)

19. Minnesota (19.57)

20. Washington and Lee (20.82)

21. Iowa (21.33), UIUC (21.73), Boston College (21.80)

25. Notre Dame (22.1), George Washington (22.69)

EDIT: Things obviously get hairier as you go down the list. I'm not really sure how instructive this information is regarding the schools outside the top 14, but i didn't want to leave any of them out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826249)




Date: June 28th, 2004 9:21 AM
Author: Lord_Of_The_Ding

True, UVA is in a league of its own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#828420)




Date: June 27th, 2004 12:49 PM
Author: FiveDollaSuckySucky
Subject: Use of a weighted average would be more applicable

and could be used to show trends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#822579)




Date: June 27th, 2004 2:02 PM
Author: epiphany07

And which years would you choose to weigh more heavily? The last five, ten?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#822809)




Date: June 28th, 2004 10:00 AM
Author: FiveDollaSuckySucky
Subject: Most recent having most weight

and decreasing in a linear fashion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#828579)




Date: June 27th, 2004 7:18 PM
Author: Richard Grieco
Subject: For the Record....

I know it's splitting hairs here, but if you factor the 2004 rankings into the matrix, with UCLA as #16, and USC as #18, you'll find that UCLA edges out USC overall by a few fractions of a point, to assume the "definitive" #17 position. Factoring in Vanderbilt's 2004 ranking (#17) also closes the gap between Vandy and UCLA for the "definitive" #16 position.

HTH

Signed, a UCLA Troll

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#824371)




Date: June 27th, 2004 7:23 PM
Author: UIUCdude
Subject: Who cares?

All that matters is that UIUC is without a doubt the top law school in the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#824427)




Date: June 27th, 2004 7:33 PM
Author: Richard Grieco

"Who cares?"

I mention it because the rankings posted here are a year out of date, and if UCLA could overtake USC on the overall (after factoring the 2004 rankings), perhaps other schools that are closely ranked could have done the same.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#824511)




Date: June 27th, 2004 7:40 PM
Author: UIUCdude
Subject: Can't believe you actually took the time to respond to my post.

That is all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#824578)




Date: June 27th, 2004 8:02 PM
Author: h4ck3d4cc0unt

UIUC took a hit, yeah. It's still a very good school.

The one problem with it is location. Total pain in the ass come summer when you have to pack up and leave.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#824772)




Date: June 27th, 2004 10:49 PM
Author: coolman

what I posted is useful to people who want to apply law school next year.

as we know, top law school must be ranked in top 25 at least 5-6 times. therefore, hope this is useful to whom it may concerned.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826004)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:03 PM
Author: Penguin (vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooom)

Why are there some years missing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826168)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:05 PM
Author: KristenMc

They didn't issue a ranking for a lot of the early years. I didn't read the whole thing, so I don't know if those are the only ones missing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826178)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:07 PM
Author: Penguin (vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooom)

yeah but for some, such as Georgetown, they have the ranking for every year, while for other schools they don't. I think that can skew the average.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826201)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:08 PM
Author: lawya

ya, it would skew the average....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826205)




Date: June 28th, 2004 12:10 AM
Author: Richard Grieco

"for some, such as Georgetown, they have the ranking for every year, while for other schools they don't"

That's because in the years not listed, the school was not in the Top 25. So basically, assume that it's average is lower than listed.

There was also no ranking in 1988 and 1989, for anyone who was wondering.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826703)




Date: June 28th, 2004 12:14 AM
Author: Penguin (vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooom)

When the overall average for a schools' rank is calculated, is this taken into account?

Thanks for the calrification btw, that puts things into better perspective.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826739)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:07 PM
Author: lawya

USC was the bomb in the mid-1990s...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826197)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:08 PM
Author: Penguin (vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooom)

Urbana was da bomb in the eighties :(

They better shape up again, I'm counting on it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826209)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:08 PM
Author: The Meanest Fish (In the nicest pond...)
Subject: Trends

Keep in mind that trends are as important as the actual average.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826202)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:16 PM
Author: theresa

what would get people really going is if someone compiled not just the average ranking but also the average *score* of each school. i'm sure someone is game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826286)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:19 PM
Author: lawya

i wanna see the median LSAT for each of these schools for every year listed (individually), and the average median LSAT for each school over all the years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826316)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:22 PM
Author: theresa

i know someone will do this. i just don't want it to be me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826344)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:23 PM
Author: lawya

the average medians will likely be much much lower than last years, correct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826350)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:25 PM
Author: theresa

i'd imagine so. maybe someone should also do "what a 165 would have gotten you in (x) year."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826380)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:49 PM
Author: lawya

yes...someone do it. i would but don't have access to all this data

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826546)




Date: June 28th, 2004 12:04 AM
Author: In Soviet Russia, Rule 12 violates YOU! (founder, UC mastodon posse)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LawSchoolRankings/

Have at it. US News didn't start listing 25/75 data until 1998, though. Before that it listed medians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826644)




Date: June 28th, 2004 9:00 AM
Author: CareyMcWilliams
Subject: Average Scores (1990-2004)

There are no scores for the 1987 ranking. Only showing those schools which have scores for all years 1990-2004.

100.00 Yale 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100 100

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-

-

-

94.70 Harvard 88.3 93.5 94.9 94.5 99.3 99.2 99.3 99.5 99.0 93.0 91.0 92.0 92.0 92 93

94.15 Stanford 90.7 90.4 93.6 92.7 99.2 99.2 90.0 98.5 99.0 93.0 92.0 96.0 93.0 93 92

-

91.81 Columbia 89.2 85.5 90.0 89.8 98.0 98.6 98.1 97.9 98.0 87.0 86.0 90.0 89.0 90 90

91.25 Chicago 91.9 90.6 92.8 92.4 98.5 99.1 98.3 98.1 98.0 86.0 84.0 86.0 84.0 85 84

90.75 NYU 86.0 83.9 86.4 89.4 97.4 97.1 97.8 97.3 97.0 89.0 87.0 88.0 88.0 88 89

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-

87.92 Michigan 85.0 84.0 87.7 88.3 95.0 95.0 95.7 96.1 95.0 82.0 83.0 84.0 82.0 83 83

86.85 Virginia 83.2 81.4 85.0 85.9 91.0 95.2 94.8 95.3 95.0 84.0 82.0 84.0 82.0 82 82

86.10 Duke 84.5 81.2 83.7 85.0 95.1 95.0 94.5 94.5 95.0 82.0 79.0 82.0 79.0 80 81

85.89 Penn 83.6 79.1 82.2 83.2 94.7 94.2 95.2 94.1 95.0 79.0 78.0 82.0 82.0 83 83

85.60 Boalt 81.5 76.7 81.2 82.7 94.4 95.0 93.5 95.0 96.0 81.0 82.0 83.0 82.0 81 79

84.29 Cornell 81.4 76.0 77.2 81.2 93.9 93.5 93.6 93.6 94.0 81.0 79.0 81.0 78.0 81 80

84.29 Northwestern 82.4 75.2 80.2 82.1 93.1 94.2 92.7 92.5 94.0 79.0 78.0 80.0 80.0 80 81

83.77 Georgetown 82.0 77.8 81.4 84.4 92.0 93.7 93.5 92.7 94.0 77.0 77.0 79.0 77.0 79 76

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77.97 Texas 75.1 71.6 73.0 76.7 84.1 87.4 86.1 85.5 79.0 73.0 74.0 77.0 76.0 76 75

77.75 Vanderbilt 76.7 67.6 71.2 72.7 90.2 90.6 89.8 88.4 90.0 72.0 69.0 73.0 70.0 73 72

77.63 UCLA 73.5 67.3 70.2 72.4 90.1 81.6 89.0 88.3 89.0 72.0 73.0 76.0 74.0 75 73

77.05 USC 74.5 68.0 67.5 70.0 88.1 90.9 90.5 91.3 92.0 70.0 70.0 72.0 68.0 72 71

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#828368)




Date: June 28th, 2004 6:55 PM
Author: theresa

sweet. i had a feeling it would look like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#833671)




Date: June 27th, 2004 11:45 PM
Author: coolman

the average median LSAT.....

top1-10 166-171+

top11-25 162-165+

1994 top25

but u can see 2005 this year the average median LSAT is almost the same.

besides, each school like to accept students who get high LSAT

I believe that

top1-10 166-171+

top11-25 162-165+

is better for u to apply top 25

rank rank tuition score

1. Yale University (Conn. 1 2 $ 18,548 171.0

2. Harvard University (Mass.) 3 5 $ 17,750 169.0

3. Stanford University (Calif.) 2 6 $ 20,186 167.0

4. University of Chicago 10 4 $ 19,095 169.0

5. Columbia University (N.Y.) 8 3 $ 20,000 168.0

6. New York University 4 1 $ 19,740 168.0

7. Duke University (N.C.) 16 9 $ 18,600 169.0

8. University of Michigan at Ann Arbor 37 7 $ 19,400 167.0

9. University of Pennsylvania 22 8 $ 18,460 165.0

10. University of Cal. at Berkeley 19 17 $ 12,111 166.0

11. Cornell University (N.Y.) 11 10 $ 19,200 165.0

12. Northwestern University (Ill.) 7 13 $ 18,170 163.0

13. Georgetown University (D.C.) 27 15 $ 18,995 166.0

14. University of Virginia 60 11 $ 15,678 164.0

15. Vanderbilt University (Tenn.) 31 14 $ 17,750 164.0

16. University of Cal. at Los Angeles 33 18 $ 12,202 165.0

17. University of MN. at Twin Cities 38 21 $ 12,544 163.0

18. University of Southern California 9 16 $ 19,156 163.0

19. University of Iowa 18 27 $ 10,190 160.0

20. University of Cal. -- Hastings 44 24 $ 11,529 161.0

21. University of Texas at Austin 76 36 $ 7,280 163.0

22. Emory University (Ga.) 48 28 $ 17,000 163.0

22. Washington and Lee University (Va.) 6 44 $ 13,600 163.0

24. Boston College 77 12 $ 17,720 163.0

25. University of Washington 15 79 $ 9,963 163.0



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#826525)




Date: June 28th, 2004 6:29 AM
Author: CareyMcWilliams

I like how the year that Texas was ranked 29 (1998) is left out of the average. If we're going to start picking and choosing what ranks we want to include, you can't use the 1998 ranks for the others schools' averages. Maybe we should leave out the year Harvard was ranked 5 as well?

The way I would do it would be to average the rank in cases of ties and also to give the most generous possible rank in years when a school is not in the "Top Whatever," ie unranked - noted in parentheses below.

1.03 Yale 1.5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

2.50 Harvard 1.5 5 2 2 2 2 2.5 2 2 2.5 2.5 3 3 3 3 2

2.81 Stanford 4.5 3 4 3 3 3 2.5 3 3 2.5 2.5 2 2 2 2 3

4.63 Columbia 4.5 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4.5 5 5 4 4 4 4

4.72 Chicago 6 2 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 4.5 6 6 6 6 6 6

5.81 NYU 9 6 7 7 6 6 6 6 6 6 4 4 5 5 5 5

7.25 Michigan 3 7 6 6 7 8 9 7 7 9.5 8.5 7 7.5 8.5 7.5 7.5

8.69 UVA 8 10 8 8 8 14 7 9 8 9.5 7 8.5 7.5 8.5 9 9

9.81 Duke 12 8 9 9 9 7 9 10 10 9.5 8.5 10.5 10.5 12 12.5 10.5

10.03 Penn 10 9 10 10 11 9 11.5 8 11 9.5 12.5 12.5 10.5 8.5 7.5 7.5

10.22 Berkeley 7 13 12 12 12 10 9 12.5 9 7 10.5 8.5 9 8.5 10.5 13

12.47 Cornell 15 14 13 14 14 11 14 11 12 13 10.5 10.5 12 13 10.5 12

12.72 Northwestern 16 11 14 13 13 12 11.5 14 14 13 12.5 12.5 13 11 12.5 10.5

12.84 Georgetown 13 12 11 11 10 13 13 12.5 13 13 14 14 14 14 14 14

16.66 Vanderbilt (21) 15 17 16 16 15 16 16 16 16 16.5 18 17 17 17 17

16.69 Texas 11 16 15 15 15 21 17 18 18 31 15 15 15 15 15 15

16.97 UCLA 14 18 18 17 17 16 24 17 17 17 16.5 16 16 16 16 16

17.09 USC 17.5 17 16 18 18 18 15 15 15 15 18.5 17 18 19.5 18 18

20.19 Minnesota 19 (27) 22.5 21 25 17 18 21 20 18 18.5 19 19 19.5 19.5 19

22.25 Washington & Lee (21) 25.5 (26) (26) (26) 22.5 21 20 25 19 20 20 20.5 19.5 19.5 24.5

22.78 Iowa (21) (27) 19 25 23.5 19 19 33 24 24 23.5 21 20.5 19.5 21 24.5

23.19 George Washington (21) 23.5 22.5 24 21 (26) 22 22 23 20.5 25.5 24 24.5 27.5 23 21

23.53 Boston College (21) 20 (26) 22.5 19 24 26 26 22 22 27 24 22 22.5 23 29.5

23.63 Illinois 17.5 25.5 (26) (26) (26) (26) 20 19 19 20.5 23.5 24 24.5 27.5 25.5 27.5

24.22 Notre Dame (21) 19 24.5 20 20 (26) 39 25 21 26.5 21.5 27 29 24 23 21

25.31 Emory (21) 23.5 (26) (26) (26) 22.5 25 23.5 27 26.5 28 27 29 22.5 27 24.5

26.75 UNC Chapel Hill (21) 21 24.5 (26) (26) (26) 32 34 35.5 26.5 21.5 22 24.5 31 29 27.5

27.53 WUStL (21) (27) (26) (26) (26) (26) 29 31 31 31 33.5 30 29 27.5 25.5 21

27.72 U Washington (21) (27) (26) 22.5 (26) 25 34 23.5 28.5 23 25.5 27 24.5 27.5 47 35.5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#828323)




Date: June 28th, 2004 9:37 AM
Author: Booger
Subject: Wait a minute...

What was Vandy ranked in 1987? If they were not in the top 25, wouldn't you have to factor that in as well? If so, I bet that pushes them below UT... just like in the real rankings!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#828486)




Date: June 28th, 2004 6:57 PM
Author: CareyMcWilliams

1987 was the Top 20. That's why Vandy has a (21) in parentheses for that year. Rather imprecise, but what other options are there? (<Not a rhetorical question). If we assume Vandy is at 22, that would drop its average below Texas', so the generous assumption is significant. Or since the 1987 rankings are so substantially different from the rest, we could just lose them.

We could just limit it to the schools which have made an appearance in every edition, but I think a lot of people would not be too happy with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#833687)




Date: June 28th, 2004 9:17 AM
Author: The Protege
Subject: I've never seen so many rankings on one thread



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#828403)




Date: June 28th, 2004 9:57 AM
Author: AppleSauce

shouldn't cooley be #29?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#828556)




Date: June 28th, 2004 6:50 PM
Author: John Dorian

lies... cooley should never be less than three digits...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#833642)




Date: July 13th, 2004 6:57 PM
Author: ...mobiusnu...



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#954513)




Date: July 16th, 2004 12:43 AM
Author: PLSFAN
Subject: bump

...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=50232&forum_id=#975210)