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But he paid back the loans! -$168 million of interest sav...
Swashbuckling telephone location
  03/20/24
you are a mentaly retarded TDS afflicted jewish pedophile. ...
disgusting copper skinny woman
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sapphire passionate stead feces
  03/20/24
judge in pussy hat (dreaming of bbc) absentmindedly changing...
Chestnut Theater
  03/20/24
The buyers of the golf course and post office were obligated...
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disgusting copper skinny woman
  03/20/24
These are unsophisticated buyers who require NY to help them...
violet blood rage
  03/20/24
They relied partly on his fraudulent financial statements, h...
Swashbuckling telephone location
  03/20/24
lol at pretending the 'fraud ruling' is anything other than ...
disgusting copper skinny woman
  03/20/24
i mean if your entire business model is committing fraud the...
Swashbuckling telephone location
  03/20/24
so you admit this is just a political persecution and no fra...
disgusting copper skinny woman
  03/20/24
tons of fraud was committed. being a brash asshole while run...
Swashbuckling telephone location
  03/20/24
there was no fraud. Deutsche Bank and all of the buyers agr...
disgusting copper skinny woman
  03/20/24
sorry but trump had his day in court and lost bigly. tons of...
Swashbuckling telephone location
  03/20/24
you already said he was only being charged because the AG an...
disgusting copper skinny woman
  03/20/24
Nope, he was charged for a decades-long fraud through which ...
Swashbuckling telephone location
  03/20/24
Why would being president have anything to do with it? Does ...
disgusting copper skinny woman
  03/20/24
He wouldn’t have bought these things in the first plac...
Glittery locus jewess
  03/20/24
Why does it matter whether he runs for President? Is the law...
amethyst meetinghouse boistinker
  03/20/24
Don’t worry. We can all steal billions of dollars wort...
Glittery locus jewess
  03/20/24
Date: March 20th, 2024 8:48 AM Author: ""''"...
vermilion comical corn cake
  03/20/24
this is really stupid.
Underhanded ticket booth
  03/20/24
trump just needs to learn to live within his means, eat rame...
Swashbuckling telephone location
  03/20/24
lol he's going to be elected president for the third time an...
disgusting copper skinny woman
  03/20/24
not only will he not be elected, but he's going to jail, and...
Swashbuckling telephone location
  03/20/24
you are beyond retarded. get the fuck off the internet and g...
disgusting copper skinny woman
  03/20/24
if jewish homosexual pumo has lost reasonable moderate dupa,...
Chestnut Theater
  03/20/24
The government surely should intervene and punish anyone who...
Underhanded ticket booth
  03/20/24
didn't DB even publicly state that Trump's valuations didn't...
disgusting copper skinny woman
  03/20/24
no tears for their millions of mom and pop shareholders?
Chestnut Theater
  03/20/24
they should probably be happy the banks & organizations ...
disgusting copper skinny woman
  03/20/24
of the banks? No. And the "victims" aren't eve...
Underhanded ticket booth
  03/20/24
i had no idea. the theory is that Judge Engoron decides for ...
blathering vibrant gunner hell
  03/20/24
fraud is fraud. i'm going to assume engoron is not good at ...
motley naked deer antler
  03/20/24
I thought Trump's business were unsuccessful, but according ...
amethyst meetinghouse boistinker
  03/20/24
they weren’t successful. he only acquired his wealth t...
Swashbuckling telephone location
  03/20/24
Then why is OP calling them "profits?"
amethyst meetinghouse boistinker
  03/20/24
They were "fraudulent" profits, amirite! What, ...
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  03/20/24
What percent of iPhone 58% profit margins are due to fraud I...
amethyst meetinghouse boistinker
  03/20/24
Whatever they say it is! It's great. In Apple's case, ...
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  03/20/24
so surely the judgment will need to be paid to the aggrieved...
bateful frum garrison
  03/20/24
The aggrieved parties may still file suit. if they don&rsquo...
Swashbuckling telephone location
  03/20/24
How can they collect if New York has all of Trump's money? W...
amethyst meetinghouse boistinker
  03/20/24
I’d just cash in, grow a beard and flee to playa del ...
Glittery locus jewess
  03/20/24
new york prides itself on justice for all
motley naked deer antler
  03/20/24
What were the “false statements “
Black irate dilemma wagecucks
  03/20/24
WSJ reports have indicated that there was no testimony from ...
Laughsome useless brakes crotch
  03/20/24
who was the AG's expert?
bateful frum garrison
  03/20/24
At least this guy, as reported in "The Hill." M...
Laughsome useless brakes crotch
  03/20/24
Sounds like he belongs in a cell with Sam Bankman Fried
amethyst meetinghouse boistinker
  03/20/24
That should have been dauberted out
Black irate dilemma wagecucks
  03/20/24
So what were the material and knowing misstatements? What w...
Black irate dilemma wagecucks
  03/20/24
maybe we should have a trial to figure this out
Swashbuckling telephone location
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Swashbuckling telephone location
  03/20/24
Can the OP explain the figures for the sales of the property...
brindle multi-billionaire
  03/20/24


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Date: March 20th, 2024 8:48 AM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location

But he paid back the loans!

-$168 million of interest saved from favorable loans based on the false financial statements

- $126 million of fraudulent profits received from the sale of the Old Post Office based on false financial statements

- $60 million of fraudulent profits received from the sale of Ferry Point golf course in New York based on false financial statements

-plus roughly $100 million more in interest on all these fraudulent profits

So in reality he’s really not even being penalized or paying anything more than he was supposed to in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509583)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:05 AM
Author: disgusting copper skinny woman

you are a mentaly retarded TDS afflicted jewish pedophile. selling real estate at fair market value is not fraud, nor is a major bank agreeing to a loan based on their own due diligence and receiving full payment for said loan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509617)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:00 AM
Author: sapphire passionate stead feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509752)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 8:50 AM
Author: Chestnut Theater

judge in pussy hat (dreaming of bbc) absentmindedly changing the m's to b's why not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509592)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:02 AM
Author: gold field idea he suggested

The buyers of the golf course and post office were obligated to pay what Trump said they were worth?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509608)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:07 AM
Author: vermilion comical corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509620)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:07 AM
Author: disgusting copper skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509624)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:08 AM
Author: violet blood rage

These are unsophisticated buyers who require NY to help them get a fair deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509626)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:14 AM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location

They relied partly on his fraudulent financial statements, hence the fraud ruling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509651)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:33 AM
Author: disgusting copper skinny woman

lol at pretending the 'fraud ruling' is anything other than political persecution like you'd find in places like Russia. are you kikes capable of ever not lying your assholes off about anything you mentally retarded pederast?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509688)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:35 AM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location

i mean if your entire business model is committing fraud then its probably a good idea to lay low and not draw the attention of authorities by like, idk, running for president

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509694)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:49 AM
Author: disgusting copper skinny woman

so you admit this is just a political persecution and no fraud was committed? thanks for the rare moment of honesty you mentally retarded jewish pedophile. stop raping little kids and get the fuck off the internet. go for a walk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509719)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:08 AM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location

tons of fraud was committed. being a brash asshole while running for potus likely put him on the radar of the state, which was able to PROVE in court that he committed decades-long fraud to acquire his wealth. and the state didnt even penalize him. they just fined him the amounts he would have owed if he hadnt committed fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509774)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:12 AM
Author: disgusting copper skinny woman

there was no fraud. Deutsche Bank and all of the buyers agreed to that indisputable fact. the only fraud is the state of NY allowing a baboon AG and pedo kike judge who both suffer from severe TDS just like you to persecute a political rival for being a "brash asshole" as you describe.

you are a mentally retarded jewish pedophile and everyone who isn't some brain broken TDS fuckstain that dedicates their entire lives to raging about a guy who was elected president because he actually represents the interests of the majority of america instead of jewish pedophiles in the govt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509789)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:48 AM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location

sorry but trump had his day in court and lost bigly. tons of fraud was committed, which is why the fine was so high. you can't spin your way out of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509919)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 11:00 AM
Author: disgusting copper skinny woman

you already said he was only being charged because the AG and Judge suffer from TDS like you. if tons of fraud were committed then shouldn't the AG have charged it regardless of whether was elected POTUS in 2016 and 2020? Why did DB seemingly not care or were too dumb to notice that they were defrauded out of supposedly $100M+? Are they not a massive financial institution with an army of biglawyers and internal ppl looking to protect them from exactly that?

How many other cases like this are out there from other rich people who didn't say pussy on a hot mic? Should we expect the smart and well qualified african-american female AG to bring similar cases to other real estate developers and should we expect the jewish definitely not a pedophile judge to be as aggressively militant towards those defendants as he was towards Trump?

wouldn't is be easier for you people to just pick political positions people actually support and run a candidate who doesn't have dementia rather than having to resort to being this blatantly corrupt? what's so hard about that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509983)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 12:01 PM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location

Nope, he was charged for a decades-long fraud through which he acquired his wealth. he probably would have gotten away with it had he not run for president.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510124)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 1:50 PM
Author: disgusting copper skinny woman

Why would being president have anything to do with it? Does this mean that everyone who isn’t president gets away with whatever this nonexistent fraud was supposed to be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510547)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 4:11 PM
Author: Glittery locus jewess

He wouldn’t have bought these things in the first place or financed them without favorable rates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510981)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:48 AM
Author: amethyst meetinghouse boistinker

Why does it matter whether he runs for President? Is the law enforced arbitrarily against people who run for office???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509921)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 4:14 PM
Author: Glittery locus jewess

Don’t worry. We can all steal billions of dollars worth of shit and it’ll be fine unless we run for president

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510987)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:07 AM
Author: vermilion comical corn cake

Date: March 20th, 2024 8:48 AM

Author: ""''"

But he paid back the loans!

-$168 million of interest saved from favorable loans based on the false financial statements

- $126 million of fraudulent profits received from the sale of the Old Post Office based on false financial statements

- $60 million of fraudulent profits received from the sale of Ferry Point golf course in New York based on false financial statements

-plus roughly $100 million more in interest on all these fraudulent profits

So in reality he’s really not even being penalized or paying anything more than he was supposed to in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509583)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509621)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:39 AM
Author: Underhanded ticket booth

this is really stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509707)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:39 AM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location

trump just needs to learn to live within his means, eat ramen, sell your jet, whatever he needs to do, but he needs to pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509710)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:48 AM
Author: disgusting copper skinny woman

lol he's going to be elected president for the third time and there's nothing you can do about it. how mad does that make you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509718)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:09 AM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location

not only will he not be elected, but he's going to jail, and there's nothing you can do about it besides whine on the internet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509775)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:17 AM
Author: disgusting copper skinny woman

you are beyond retarded. get the fuck off the internet and go for a walk, preferably not near a school or playground.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509806)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:00 AM
Author: Chestnut Theater

if jewish homosexual pumo has lost reasonable moderate dupa, he's lost everyman xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509749)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: Underhanded ticket booth

The government surely should intervene and punish anyone who gets in the way of banks charging maximum interest. And surely these mega wealthy, highly sophisticated institutions and buyers were forced to rely on Trump's valuations and didn't realize they could obtain independent appraisals or do any due diligence of their own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509777)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:23 AM
Author: disgusting copper skinny woman

didn't DB even publicly state that Trump's valuations didn't affect at all the rate they charged him?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509834)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:28 AM
Author: Chestnut Theater

no tears for their millions of mom and pop shareholders?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509850)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:36 AM
Author: disgusting copper skinny woman

they should probably be happy the banks & organizations they invested into made sound lending and real estate decisions that likely produced positive financial returns for them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509875)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 12:08 PM
Author: Underhanded ticket booth

of the banks?

No. And the "victims" aren't even being compensated.

A politically motivated, hostile state government targeted a private person. they are leveraging a hypothetical grievance of a third-party to take all of this person's money in an attempt to influence the presidential election.

This should be very concerning, indeed, terrifying to anyone who cares about liberty and/or democracy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510165)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:29 AM
Author: blathering vibrant gunner hell

i had no idea. the theory is that Judge Engoron decides for the market what the market would have done if only the market had known that Trump's opening positions were simply bargaining points?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509853)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 12:07 PM
Author: motley naked deer antler

fraud is fraud.

i'm going to assume engoron is not good at life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510156)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:32 AM
Author: amethyst meetinghouse boistinker

I thought Trump's business were unsuccessful, but according to OP they were all successful and highly profitable. Why not make Trump president so he can fix the economy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509865)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 12:02 PM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location

they weren’t successful. he only acquired his wealth through fraud, hence the enormous judgment against him. that’s not the same as running a successful business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510135)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 12:11 PM
Author: amethyst meetinghouse boistinker

Then why is OP calling them "profits?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510187)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 2:36 PM
Author: adventurous jet sanctuary bbw

They were "fraudulent" profits, amirite!

What, exactly, is the definition of a "fraudulent" profit, you may ask? It's whatever they say it is!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510733)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 2:51 PM
Author: amethyst meetinghouse boistinker

What percent of iPhone 58% profit margins are due to fraud I wonder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510770)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 2:57 PM
Author: adventurous jet sanctuary bbw

Whatever they say it is! It's great.

In Apple's case, my guess is that they will say 0%. Prove them wrong!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510781)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:39 AM
Author: bateful frum garrison

so surely the judgment will need to be paid to the aggrieved parties, like the lender and the buyers, not new york state right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47509881)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 12:03 PM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location

The aggrieved parties may still file suit. if they don’t, he still owes the state $450 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510138)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 1:56 PM
Author: amethyst meetinghouse boistinker

How can they collect if New York has all of Trump's money? Will there be a judgment fund.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510563)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 4:18 PM
Author: Glittery locus jewess

I’d just cash in, grow a beard and flee to playa del Carmen. Obviously he’s just not allowed to invest or earn anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510996)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 12:08 PM
Author: motley naked deer antler

new york prides itself on justice for all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510159)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 1:52 PM
Author: Black irate dilemma wagecucks

What were the “false statements “

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510550)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 2:30 PM
Author: Laughsome useless brakes crotch

WSJ reports have indicated that there was no testimony from lenders that Trump received interest rate reductions due to overvaluing assets. The imputed interest savings were calculated by an expert hired by the A.G. Is this not correct?

Here is what the Editorial Board wrote today:

"As we wrote last month, the judgment is overkill. None of Mr. Trump’s business partners lost money lending to him or claimed to have been deceived by his erroneous financial statements. No witness during the trial said his alleged misrepresentations changed its loan terms or prices, and there was no evidence that he profited from his alleged deceptions.

Nonetheless, state trial judge Arthur Engoron ordered him to “disgorge” $355 million in “ill-gotten gains.” This sum was based on the interest-rate savings that a financial expert retained by Ms. James estimated Mr. Trump netted from his legerdemain. But this calculation seems dubious since banks said they didn’t alter their loan terms."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510716)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 2:33 PM
Author: bateful frum garrison

who was the AG's expert?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510724)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 2:39 PM
Author: Laughsome useless brakes crotch

At least this guy, as reported in "The Hill."

Michiel McCarty, chairman and CEO at the investment bank M.M. Dillon & Co.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510742)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 2:50 PM
Author: amethyst meetinghouse boistinker

Sounds like he belongs in a cell with Sam Bankman Fried

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510766)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 3:33 PM
Author: Black irate dilemma wagecucks

That should have been dauberted out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47510877)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 4:54 PM
Author: Black irate dilemma wagecucks

So what were the material and knowing misstatements? What was the evidence of scienter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47511072)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 6:44 PM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location

maybe we should have a trial to figure this out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47511421)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 6:44 PM
Author: Swashbuckling telephone location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47511420)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: brindle multi-billionaire

Can the OP explain the figures for the sales of the property?

The loan amount seems like total BS to me, but at least I understand how they got there (non-recourse loan rate vs recourse - however, i suspect that is a HUGE overstatement as there is pobably negligble difference between the overstated recourse rate vs teh 100% correct recourse rate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506567&forum_id=2#47511703)