Between a couple of moves like this and an increased set of hostilities over the Taiwan straits, the era of Good Trade with China may be coming to a negotiated dim

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571150)

Access to American trade networks and preferential trade status within our domestic markets is probably still the most valuable soft power buy-in on the planet. Any sort of diplomatic divorce will hurt China immensely, which may leave the CCCP feeling like they may need to make a move on Taiwan that they probably can't afford financially or politically. America gets the W albeit with some unexpected consequences in mutually contested markets down the line

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571179)

And tell them that if they refused and China invaded we'd probably have to bomb their chip factories ourselves to keep China from capturing it intact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571200)

Option 1: lose everything by moving it to the US

Option 2: lose everything in the war

Option 3: join China peacefully and they'll probably offer some incentives for them to join

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47573931)

People choosing to be propagandized is another issue entirely that only actual education (not just more propaganda like many American educators think) can solve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571491)

Just being realistic about it. Samsung has been "okay" and South Korean influence in the US is not something I or others are probably worried about atm. By all accounts they've been a fairly good ally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571546)

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4677041&mc=225&forum_id=2#41281557

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47572683)

HMD builds Nokia phones in Europe, enterprise-class ones

Also FWIW Samsung has Knox on their phones because of enterprise-level security utility

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571658)

I'll keep an eye out. The Librem 5 looks kinda interesting https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571843)

1. We keep buying shit from Asia

2. We make shit ourselves.

If we can do #2, why the fuck are Asians even in the picture? Is the idea supposed to be that Samsung will teach Americans how to build a clean room and operate a laser?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571578)

I'd guess we're "buying" the manufacturing process as a whole. Equipment, training for US workers, production techniques, etc. It's possible some bureaucrat looked at production figures from Bosch or Broadcomm or whoever else made a bid and liked Samsung's figures better. It's also possible this buys some sort of lateral trade deal or intelligence commitment from some political faction in SK. That part is very difficult to determine without firsthand access to the deal room

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571613)

Meanwhile we can pretend Micron doesn't exist and Americans don't know how to make DRAM that's just as good as Samsung.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47572731)

LJL @ this entire thing, the biggest boondoogle in history it will turn out.

U cannot defeat China. Its over, they won. If u actually look at any stats for manufacturing, exports, scientific publications, STEM grads, industrial capacity, etc China is winning and in many cases already far ahead

And it's the US that will suffer. Tehy cannot cut China off because the entire US economy and society is about consuming bullshit. Take that away from Bobby Birdshit what will he do? Even moar meth? Thats also made in China

FURK USA CHINA WON

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571231)

There's more to being a superpower than manufacturing capacity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571258)

u ppl shld be gassed for speaking ill of China esp Gorgeous XI after all he has done for us. Faggot benchods u all are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571308)

they already ar enumber one in indistrual robot installation, they will automate everything u cunt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47572755)

U ppl are idiots, they have the best system, best leaders, best people, best education, best skills. Just a hiccup is nothing u stupid faggot, South Korea's GDP dropped like 50% in late 90's during Asian Financial Crisis but it didnt stop it. China isn't even remotely anywhere as bad as that.

U ppl are furking retarded. And "superpower" ljl China doesnt care abt that, only dumbass Amerikkkans care abt that as their country burns to the ground from niggas and hobos and feminazis with cocks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571300)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571337)

there's also milllions of amerikkkan trash fleeing to mexico, costa rica brazil thailand japan and all over now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47572762)

And I say this as someone a little sympathetic to China

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571346)

Just some rough waters ahead and probably another round of high political feuding, which the party has gotten remarkably good at concealing from the public and foreign orgs for the sakes of the appearance of universal coherency

I agree that China's enduring political strength under the party is a bugbear for the neoliberal center of the Anglo-American regime, and one that can't be adequately addressed without reflexive saber rattling from the West or an uncomfortable series of discussions on either fundamental Chinese difference or that strong alternatives to the Western oligarchic-democratic present exist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571454)

Altman hands crafted this poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571560)

think it will dwarf the rapetile $4.1Bn foxconn boondoggle in wisconsin?

i'd put money on samsung and biden over foxconn and walker even without politics entering into it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47572675)

We mainly just need to put forth a better effort on winning over third world markets while shutting out Chinese access. America still has an immense amount of soft pull with most of these contested markets; we just don't really seem to capitalize on it much, in no small part because it seems as if the Department of State is fighting a political war at home instead of putting all of its resources towards fighting for American interests in unaligned nations. Containment is fine and realistically we've had this symbiotic trade relationship for so long that it'd be the messiest of all divorces to break on instantaneously. Disentanglement is fine bit by bit and we need to stop leaving whole sectors of production up to the Chinese just because "it's cheap", which is to say that it benefits consumers in the short-term and internationalist oligarchs in the long term

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571875)

Anecdotal; minute but immense amount of shrieking and howling over shit like "tradwife" or "amish" influencers is a positive sign that the cultural opposition is running out of hot air to prop up the experientially empty and often godless lifestyles that many in that segment of the left sustain themselves with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571925)

Bring back the other guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571486)

Hungry people will not survive on a chip diet

People with good instincts will seek a better diet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571505)

1. That's a shit market. Companies like MediaTek and Broadcom are the competition here. You gotta beat them before you can take on Samsung.

2. There's no risk of iPhones vanishing, period. There just isn't.

We are supposed to be making chips for military applications. The whole idea was to ween ourselves off foreign suppliers for them shit. The idea was to have a warm base that could make semiconductors on 28nm process and then push it from there. 28nm and above is supposed to be "legacy" technology that can be pawned off on the government. No idea what we need SAMSUNG for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47572146)

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On 22 October 2021, Micron closed the sale of IM Flash's Lehi, Utah fab to Texas Instruments for a sale price of US$900 million.[47] With the passage of the CHIPS and Science Act, Micron announced its pledge to invest billions in new manufacturing within the US.[48] In September 2022, Micron announced they would invest $15 billion in a new facility in Boise, Idaho.[49] In October 2022 Micron announced a $100 billion expansion in Clay, New York.[50][51]

In May 2023, the Cyberspace Administration of China barred major Chinese information infrastructure firms from purchasing Micron products, citing significant national security risks.[52] The move was seen as retaliation against US sanctions on China's semiconductor industry and related export controls.[53][52] In November 2023 Chinese chipmaker Yangtze Memory Technologies Corp (YMTC) filed a lawsuit against Micron alleging infringement of eight of its patents.[54]

On February 27, 2024, Judge Maxine Chesney of the U.S. Federal District Court in San Francisco acquitted Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit, whom Micron had sued for IP theft, of the charge in a non-jury verdict, believing that there was sufficient evidence to support the charge.[55][56]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47572738)

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/business/article266848571.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47572742)