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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:41 PM Author: At-the-ready Hunting Ground Just spoke with Matt Gaetz, who just got off the phone with Speaker Johnson. Gaetz said he now anticipates that Ukraine aid will pass — an outcome he has long sought to avoid. He expressed dismay given his influential role in delaying aid thus far. “This was abject surrender."
https://twitter.com/john_hudson/status/1780649330048684114?s=61&t=issA0zEupTPrIVt0H51aVA |
Date: April 17th, 2024 1:42 PM Author: big magenta kitchen circlehead Why did republicans wait this long? What did they get for it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590682) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:43 PM Author: At-the-ready Hunting Ground Watching Ukraine squirm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590687) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:47 PM Author: light massive legend nibblets Johnson didn't want to put a bill on the floor that would require dem votes and put his speakership in jeopardy. But support for it is overwhelming given that every dem wants it and 33-50% of the GOP caucus would vote for it too. It was always going to happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590724) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 10:14 PM Author: misunderstood saffron step-uncle's house You pee sitting down and fart cum from your asshole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47592155) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:50 PM Author: Exhilarant clown We shouldn't give anything at all. So the longer it takes to give anything the better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590739) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:51 PM Author: Exhilarant clown So it'll extend the war another year. Then what? This bs all over again with another 200k+ dead Ukrainians? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590745) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:51 PM Author: domesticated public bath And tons of dead Russians and a heavily degraded Russian state and military, with zero American serviceman lives lost*
Great outcome! |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:54 PM Author: Exhilarant clown https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2024/04/03/russian-military-almost-completely-reconstituted-us-official-says/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590770) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:25 PM Author: Exhilarant clown By the way, this is from the US government and from a few weeks ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590896) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:04 PM Author: domesticated public bath My point stands. Russia only gets weaker as a result of an ongoing protracted conflict on their border. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591014) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 5:53 PM Author: Exhilarant clown Didn't read the article, did you? Also, FYI - Russia became weaker during peacetime when Putin decided that Russia was spending too much on their military. Now that is all reversed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591488) |
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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:22 AM Author: domesticated public bath I did read it. And Russia is still weaker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47606290) |
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Date: April 24th, 2024 3:25 PM Author: Exhilarant clown Because you want to believe that or what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47607198) |
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Date: April 24th, 2024 3:50 PM Author: bipolar partner > “We’ve really seen the [People’s Republic of China] start to help to rebuild Russia’s defense industrial base, essentially backfilling the trade from European partners” that lapsed when Russia invaded, the official said.
this seems concerning |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:52 PM Author: big magenta kitchen circlehead But Europe will be safe and we won’t have to send troops to fight the Russians there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590752) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:55 PM Author: Exhilarant clown This is the dumbest line I've heard. So Russia, which in the best case will still need years to take all of ukraine will somehow keep going and conquer Europe? What? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590776) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:57 PM Author: twinkling university "Russia will never invade another country!" *squawked the pro-russian poaster* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590784) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:03 PM Author: Exhilarant clown So we're adding $100 billion in debt in a week. I'm sure that's sustainable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590815) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:57 PM Author: big magenta kitchen circlehead yes if we don’t stop them. but we’re stopping them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590786) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:59 PM Author: Exhilarant clown No we're not. This will still end the exact same way: ukraine loses and goes back to being a part of Russia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590797) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:33 PM Author: big magenta kitchen circlehead that only happens if Trump wins and Europe is unable to supply enough weapons.
Otherwise Russia will continue to lose |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:43 PM Author: Exhilarant clown Continue to? Russia has been advancing all along the front in recent weeks.
https://dailystar.com.lb/ukraine-east-situation-worsens-significantly/ |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:57 PM Author: big magenta kitchen circlehead 3 days until Kyiv (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590986) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:00 PM Author: Exhilarant clown So you're not a serious person. Got it. It doesn't matter if Ukraine actually loses, Russia didn't take Kyiiiiiieeeeevvvvv in 3 days so they lose!!!!1111
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:01 PM Author: big magenta kitchen circlehead with all these advances you guys have been talking about they must only be 3 days from Kyiv by now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591006) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:07 PM Author: Exhilarant clown What's with pro-Ukrainian posters and glibness? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591021) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:50 PM Author: big magenta kitchen circlehead Sorry we find it funny you guys thought you’d take a whole country in 3 days only to be stopped by a bunch of Slavic monkeys using 30-yo army surplus equipment and no Air Force (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591130) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 4:35 PM Author: Exhilarant clown At no point did anyone serious think the Russian army that went into Ukraine with 190k troops standing against a Ukrainian army of 700-900k troops would win in 3 days because there was no feasible way to do that. A bunch of us expected Zelinsky to sign a peace treaty within 3 days which would have been the smart move.
To win in 3 days Russia needed to have an army of 3 million+ armed and ready to go. They didn't even have 1/10th of that. |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 4:58 PM Author: big magenta kitchen circlehead Sorry, you’re right. It was two days.
https://www.businessinsider.com/vladimir-putin-russian-forces-could-take-kyiv-ukraine-two-days-2022-3?op=1 |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:12 PM Author: Exhilarant clown "CIA Director Bill Burns told lawmakers last week that Putin's strategy for the war was centered on "seizing Kyiv within the first two days of the campaign."
That's retarded and they sent some tiny force towards Kiev, a city of 3 million people. The peace agreement they then pushed to Zelinsky was weak sauce. You don't do that if you earnestly expect to easily conquer the country. Have you considered that this was total bullshit? |
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Date: April 18th, 2024 8:11 PM Author: Pearly Death Wish don't see a quote from putin there.
3/15/2022: cia director bill burns says putin thought he could take ukraine in two days. wow, russia is so stupid. i mean, look at the gloating tone of that article. russia must be suicidal or something.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/18/politics/cia-director-ukraine-russia-warning/index.html
4/18/2024: cia director bill burns says “Without supplemental assistance, the picture is a lot more dire,” he continued. “There is a very real risk that the Ukrainians could lose on the battlefield by the end of 2024, or at least put Putin in a position where he could dictate the terms of a political settlement.”
since you put a lot of faith into burns, it seems odds you're gloating about kyiv not falling in two days as some example of russians losing when the same guy is warning that ukraine is about to fucking collapse. |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:52 PM Author: Irradiated mischievous rehab roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590754) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:53 PM Author: mustard pontificating locale turdskin It won't even do that Look where all the money in the bill is going to. They're just funneling more money into DOD, Pentagon, MIC, etc. |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:56 PM Author: Exhilarant clown I'm sure some of it will pay Ukrainian government salaries and pensions.
But yeah I was being generous. |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:25 PM Author: bull headed hell skinny woman Eventually they won’t have a CUNTry or any citizens to get fatally killed to death. Fuck em keep the slow drip of funds going. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590902) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:47 PM Author: Exhilarant clown This is horrible. There are millions of people that have no interest in this and aren't responsible for any of this that will die or be seriously injured. This isn't a case where people will "get what they deserve." The only thing they did to cause this was be born in the wrong place and not have enough money to leave when things got bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590958) |
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Date: April 18th, 2024 5:44 PM Author: bull headed hell skinny woman No, but Zelenskyy is a retarded elf who needs to go away. A few hundred thousand have to suffer for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47593802) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:46 PM Author: Puce home gaming laptop yeah it sucks. Russia should just call it quits and go home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590954) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:47 PM Author: Exhilarant clown Do you actually think this is an intelligent comment?
Ok, I guess if Ukraine surrenders tomorrow then this also won't happen. |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:52 PM Author: lascivious gay wizard parlor Well, this time next year, the Dems will control Congress so it'll be easier to push another aid package through. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591135) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:55 PM Author: twinkling university USA USA USA USA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590773) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:25 PM Author: Razzle Flushed Hall To be fair,
Fuck, I guess you guys were right after all -- Ukraine really IS going to win this war.
(Narrator: ) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:27 PM Author: At-the-ready Hunting Ground I've been saying ambiguous result since Ukraine's offensive failed. IE, Russia keeps most or all of the Donbas, doesn't take Odessa or Kiev. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590909) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:28 PM Author: Razzle Flushed Hall To be fair,
I wasn't responding to you |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:28 PM Author: At-the-ready Hunting Ground You said "you guys," presumably referring to board Ukrainemos, of which I am one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590911) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:56 PM Author: Razzle Flushed Hall To be fair,
1. You're a Pumo so no one knows who the fuck you are (other than "presumably a Jewish faggot")
2. I was very clearly talking to the known Sudo Unkrainemos who have been confidently crowing about how Ukraine will win this war for years now.
3. Shut the fuck up and go back to Tel Aviv, Ari. |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:04 PM Author: fluffy brunch digit ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591012) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:26 PM Author: At-the-ready Hunting Ground Biden says he "strongly supports" House bill.
https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1780661707330740307 |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 2:34 PM Author: big magenta kitchen circlehead Trumpmos MAF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47590924) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 5:51 PM Author: Exhilarant clown Always a good sign with the Republican Speaker supports the bill Biden really wants to see over the policy Trump wants. So sick of these cucks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591484) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:10 PM Author: Pearly Death Wish just another $95b down the drain. meanwhile the key bridge is estimated to cost $500m but we'll be grumbling about paying for that and it'll wind up taking like 6 years and $5b, if ever.
high speed rail from nyc to dc has been estimated to cost about this too. of course, looking at california, our bureaucracy would find a way to make it considerably more expensive. still, it's been achieved for that price in places like china. but, i guess we've given up even trying to use our resources to improve the lives of people at home somewhat.
so, $60b of this goes to ukraine. despite the fact we've already plopped down like $75b in direct aid. we'll never know how much of our existing military and intelligence spending has been used indirectly to assist ukraine.
i guess from the homeless in the streets to the terminally depressed zoomers, we can all at least pat ourselves on the back that ukraine pensions got paid and ukraine got a couple jets. usa! usa! |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:11 PM Author: domesticated public bath What makes you say we don’t expend resources to improve Americans’ lives?
Have you not hears the good news about Biden’s infrastructure legislation? |
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Date: April 18th, 2024 5:45 PM Author: bull headed hell skinny woman /s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47593811) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:16 PM Author: unhinged vivacious double fault ticket booth Wow so we give ukraine $60b and they spend it in pittsburgh buying artillery shells, sounds like a win for the working class american (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591060) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:21 PM Author: Pearly Death Wish using that logic, why not open up a restaurant where you pay patrons $100 so that they buy a $75 dinner and see how that works out for you. but yeah, i guess the extra tip money that flows to the waiters is something. waiter go an extra $15 in tips that night! what a win! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591082) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:41 PM Author: unhinged vivacious double fault ticket booth Good point give the $100 billion back to angels | funders |founders so they can disrupt the american family with a new swipe app (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591108) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:45 PM Author: Pearly Death Wish so i guess your argument is now that it's nbd to waste taxpayer money because it might be wasted in some other way? compelling! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591122) |
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Date: April 18th, 2024 5:46 PM Author: bull headed hell skinny woman Or just let people keep their own money. How many billions did California throw away at the homeless? How many billions spent in Minneapolis buying free Lunchables for millionaires? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47593815) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:43 PM Author: twinkling university because this isn't a restaurant, its not even analogous. the amount of money that stays is just a way of emphasizing the use of funds not the goal of the money.
this is more like a cafeteria for a large plant where the workers still pay but its reduced so both the company and the workers share some of the cost---of course in our case the cafeteria is serving the destruction of the Second Army of the World, and putting an end to real, physical evil, while enhancing America's hegemony.
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:44 PM Author: fluffy brunch digit ratio wait till he learns about FIFO as it concerns weapons and military equipment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591121) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:49 PM Author: Pearly Death Wish "i guess from the homeless in the streets to the terminally depressed zoomers, we can all at least pat ourselves on the back that ukraine pensions got paid and ukraine got a couple jets. usa! usa!"
seems to be exactly what i said. i guess we just disagree on how much maintaining america's hegemony benefits working class americans. |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:57 PM Author: domesticated public bath No hegemony —> no dollar dominance —> vastly reduced quality of life for every single American.
It’s not complicated. |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 4:01 PM Author: Pearly Death Wish it's nice that you guys sometimes admit this is all about western imperialism. maybe someday all the people that can't afford a house or a family will understand that the usd being the reserve currency allows them to buy gc trinkets much cheaper. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591168) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 7:56 PM Author: domesticated public bath Of course it’s about imperialism you fucking moron. That’s the bedrock on which Americans’ incredibly high standard of living is built.
Jfc you’re stupid. Even dumber than TBF potentially. |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:05 PM Author: unhinged vivacious double fault ticket booth He's a fucking INDIAN from BHARAt so of course he wants are country to fail (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591990) |
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Date: April 18th, 2024 6:08 PM Author: Pearly Death Wish lmao
#1 it's not, QOL is disappearing, the middle class no longer has an "incredibly high standard of living", this is all eating up by the elite.
#2 even if true, you're ok with proxy wars and millions dying so americans can get funkopops cheaper? jfc. idk man, call me a bleeding heart, but i don't think we should colonize other countries and extract their wealth for our benefit. |
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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:24 AM Author: domesticated public bath Who says QOL is disappearing, and based on what?
I am ofc okay with proxy wars being used to advance American interests. “Millions dying” - what? |
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Date: April 24th, 2024 4:46 PM Author: misunderstood saffron step-uncle's house literally everything costs 2-3x what it did a few years ago you stupid asshole. it literally is the largest tax increase ever pushed onto the american people, specifically the poor and middle class.
and what "American Interests" are being advanced exactly? it seems like we're just pissing away money to pretty while life gets objectively worse for white christian americans |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:44 PM Author: fluffy brunch digit ratio oh no we are spending money to kill a top adversary without losing our own troops
won’t someone think of the intel and defense money that could have been used elsewhere, like in..? |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:51 PM Author: Pearly Death Wish it's funny how you often come right out and confirm what tmf was saying about pro-ukrainian people not actually giving a fuck about ukranians. hey, who cares how many lives are lost, so long as they're not americans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591134) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 4:56 PM Author: salmon aphrodisiac nursing home Russia wasn't a real threat to any of us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591331) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 5:21 PM Author: Pearly Death Wish not entirely accurate. russia does appear to have broken tdnw mentally and spiritually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591425) |
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Date: April 24th, 2024 3:45 PM Author: lemon rebellious giraffe We have to fight them in the Ukraine so we don't have to fight them here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47607230) |
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Date: April 24th, 2024 4:47 PM Author: misunderstood saffron step-uncle's house why is Russia an "adversary"? what have ever done to us? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47607399) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 3:12 PM Author: Adventurous insanely creepy patrolman Putincucks MAF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47591047) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:19 PM Author: stimulating hilarious heaven Has Nestor weighed in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518773&forum_id=2#47592024) |