Wait, so the Ukraine aid doesn't even contemplate a counter offensive?
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Date: April 18th, 2024 5:03 PM Author: flushed electric hall
just dug into the bill and read some reports. it's mostly about air defense, munitions, and shit? what's the point? the emergency nature of this seems to be about ukraine running out of munitions to counter russian attacks. but it doesn't seem like anyone thinks that it'll enable ukraine to meaningfully push back russia. so, we're spending billions so ukraine can lose slower? or maintain a stalemate at best? and then what?
cia and zelensky both said ukraine will collapse by the end of the year without aid. what is the point of prolonging this? i guess the hope is is that after november the winds change for democrats and they can provide *MORE* support. so, we're just stalling for a bit and the only way ukraine turns the tides is direct intervention from the west? which no one is going to go for considering we can't even get aid passed?
just end this peacefully. at this rate russia will run them over and be able to dictate whatever it wants.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519143&forum_id=2#47593607) |
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Date: April 19th, 2024 12:50 PM Author: vibrant khaki stain patrolman
Why wouldn't Russia buy shells from North Korea?
It's crazy that Ukraine is continuously getting their shit pushed in and retreating from soldiers armed with shovels riding around on golf carts.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519143&forum_id=2#47595415)
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Date: April 18th, 2024 6:21 PM Author: flushed electric hall
god you're so fucking dumb man. he's being perfectly clear. it's so funny you say "based boor" and then flip it around.
he's saying the west's goal is to further colonize and influence the region by weaking and depopulating whatever's left of ukraine. it doesn't matter that kiev is lily white now -- once ukraine is fully controlled by the west we'll import a bunch of brown laborers just like we do everywhere else.
whoops, so much for your glorious racial war! now you get to be another western workhouse where we own everything and force you to accept unlimited brown immigrants that'll work for us. Slava Ukraini!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519143&forum_id=2#47593931) |
Date: April 18th, 2024 6:31 PM Author: aggressive location
They will collapse without aid and Russia may achieve their "maximalist" war goals (or closer to them). Maybe Novorussiya with a landlocked puppeted rump Ukraine or something.
Delusional libs probably think there is some magical scenario where the Ukraine pushes Russia out of Crimea and the Donbas or where Russia collapses and withdraws to pre-war borders or something.
In reality the aid extends Ukraine's clock before collapse and maybe brings Russia to the table to accept occupied territory for peace.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519143&forum_id=2#47593958) |
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Date: April 19th, 2024 2:40 PM Author: Nighttime den main people
You can look at Mariupol as the poster child of "it is better to be in Russia than under the current Ukrainian regime." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYEBVGj51nk
And of course there's Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea.
Your other examples involve towns still close to the front lines where the approach has been to evacuate civilians to existing Russian cities, including Mariupol which is actively being rebuilt. You don't focus reconstruction on towns near the front line for what should be obvious reasons.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519143&forum_id=2#47595721) |
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