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Wife lost my benchmade 940. What should I do?

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cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/22/24
I just lost a Keyshaw that I keep in my cars side door pocke...
Wine fat ankles
  04/22/24
Do you like the civivi?
cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/22/24
My civivi is the very best amazon box opener in my own perso...
rose parlour trust fund
  04/22/24
still waiting on it
Wine fat ankles
  04/23/24
got it today. Seems solid, no play when the blade is open. G...
Wine fat ankles
  04/24/24
any interest in buying a brand new large chris reeve inkosi ...
cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/25/24
I just bought thr dorkiest thing I’ve ever bought in m...
Wine fat ankles
  04/25/24
pretty sure it is this one https://www.bladehq.com/item--CIV...
Wine fat ankles
  04/25/24
Hard to go wrong at $30, but there is absolutely no way I wo...
cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/25/24
cry like a bitch boi to your racist online friends?
gay round eye chapel
  04/22/24
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cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/22/24
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Trump is the Lib Killer
  05/01/24
you can buy another one at the gas station
Sable Location Internal Respiration
  04/22/24
Absolutely cannot. And it's now like a $220 knife. Was $160 ...
cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/22/24
? gas stations sell those
Sable Location Internal Respiration
  04/22/24
No they fucking don't.
cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/22/24
yes they do. They're like $19 at a random gas station. Are...
Sable Location Internal Respiration
  04/22/24
Can confirm. Bought my last bench made 940 at a Bucees in...
rose parlour trust fund
  04/22/24
the venerable Benchmade 940 is only sold at REI and specialt...
Wine fat ankles
  04/23/24
are u sure??? the pumo said you can get it for 90% cheaper a...
comical indigo electric furnace
  04/24/24
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rose parlour trust fund
  04/25/24
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Boyish puce boistinker
  04/25/24
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Chestnut wonderful site pistol
  04/25/24
Get a new wife and a new 940 (they are in the benchmade cust...
Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe
  04/22/24
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rose parlour trust fund
  04/22/24
more like bitchmade 120, amirite?
Fragrant Up-to-no-good Half-breed
  04/23/24
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Charismatic Cordovan Area New Version
  04/24/24
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Sable Location Internal Respiration
  04/25/24
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Trump is the Lib Killer
  05/01/24
this thread made me look up what models my knives are and th...
histrionic pozpig public bath
  04/23/24
yeah they've gone up a ton in the past year or two. good thi...
Wine fat ankles
  04/23/24
any reason why? i think raw material costs have gone down. i...
histrionic pozpig public bath
  04/24/24
Inflation. Spyderco, benchmade and most other brands have in...
cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/24/24
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cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/23/24
Just find it. My wife does this all the time. She takes my...
saffron police squad
  04/23/24
lol get the wife some cheap box cutters
comical indigo electric furnace
  04/24/24
She wouldn't use it. My knife is nicer. "Hey, give that...
saffron police squad
  04/24/24
wow that knife got shit reviews on Amazon
peach stag film
  04/24/24
The benchmade 940 is the best folder ever and reviewers are ...
Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe
  04/24/24
HK Axis is better, but discontinued. And yes, Benchmade mad...
saffron police squad
  04/24/24
Now that the axis lock is off patent it’s interesting ...
Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe
  04/25/24
LOL, this is all far more serious than I am. My HK Axis is ...
saffron police squad
  04/25/24
I carried a Walmart gerber for eons and then I was like shit...
Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe
  04/26/24
None of these knives are cheap knives. The Spyderco Autonom...
saffron police squad
  04/26/24
Agree that if benchmade wants to justify their prices, they ...
cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/25/24
S30v, s35v, s45v seem to be all basically the same. I don&r...
Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe
  04/26/24
Corrosion resistance is important. More so than edge retenti...
cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/26/24
great post. yeah the 940 is definitely not highly regarded a...
cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/25/24
(guy loading up on 4.7 star "probiotic cognitive enhanc...
Chestnut wonderful site pistol
  04/25/24
Benchmades are complete flame It's the preferred knife for...
Sable Location Internal Respiration
  04/25/24
Benchmade is basically a boomer tax
cerise whorehouse ceo
  04/25/24
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aphrodisiac school
  04/26/24
they're $200, don't be a faggot
lascivious library lettuce
  04/25/24
imagine thinking a knife will EVER come in handy outside of ...
lascivious library lettuce
  04/25/24
I used an EDC NO LESS THAN three times today. None of them w...
Wine fat ankles
  04/25/24
Do you not get Amazon boxes? Do you not open mail? Do you ...
Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe
  04/26/24
ever heard of a box cutter? and for opening mail u don't ...
lascivious library lettuce
  04/26/24
A box cutter is a knife and yes you can open mail, blister p...
Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe
  04/26/24
Look around for your favorite Big Dog T-shirt while you're a...
racy talking chad
  04/26/24
you should stab her ..oh wait, you cant now
Mind-boggling stage
  04/26/24
lol at you goys thinking you need to carry around a knife be...
"''"'"'""'""
  04/28/24
Lol I'm such a goy!
dat snoot
  04/28/24
you need to carry it EVERY DAY
"''"'"'""'""
  04/28/24
I have been carrying a knife since I was a kid. I still ha...
Drunkard
  04/30/24
does anyone ever laugh at you?
"''"'"'""'""
  04/30/24
everyone loves a knifeman.
dat snoot
  04/30/24
No, I have a knife (and gun).
Drunkard
  05/01/24


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Date: April 22nd, 2024 5:07 PM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602387)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 5:09 PM
Author: Wine fat ankles

I just lost a Keyshaw that I keep in my cars side door pocket thing that I’ve had for years.

Bought a civvi cleaver style EDC with bright red handle for $30 on sale to replace it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602391)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 5:37 PM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo

Do you like the civivi?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602460)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 6:24 PM
Author: rose parlour trust fund

My civivi is the very best amazon box opener in my own personal collection

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602546)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 10:20 AM
Author: Wine fat ankles

still waiting on it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47603918)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 12:27 PM
Author: Wine fat ankles

got it today. Seems solid, no play when the blade is open. G-10. Lock is the only part that doesn't seem premium. 6/10 IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47606783)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:45 AM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo

any interest in buying a brand new large chris reeve inkosi with micarta inlay and tanto blade, s45vn steel for $450?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47608279)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:47 AM
Author: Wine fat ankles

I just bought thr dorkiest thing I’ve ever bought in my life today for slightly more than that (fancy driving sim with really strong force feedback)

Naw im good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47608284)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:40 AM
Author: Wine fat ankles

pretty sure it is this one https://www.bladehq.com/item--CIVIVI-Mini-Mastodon-Liner-Lock--115278

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47608272)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:06 AM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo

Hard to go wrong at $30, but there is absolutely no way I would ever buy that thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47608313)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 5:10 PM
Author: gay round eye chapel

cry like a bitch boi to your racist online friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602395)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 5:35 PM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602457)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:47 AM
Author: Trump is the Lib Killer (TDNW)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47624153)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 5:36 PM
Author: Sable Location Internal Respiration

you can buy another one at the gas station

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602459)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 5:37 PM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo

Absolutely cannot. And it's now like a $220 knife. Was $160 when I bought it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602462)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 5:38 PM
Author: Sable Location Internal Respiration

?

gas stations sell those

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602463)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 5:38 PM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo

No they fucking don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602464)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 5:41 PM
Author: Sable Location Internal Respiration

yes they do. They're like $19 at a random gas station. Are you some kind of retard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602468)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 5:51 PM
Author: rose parlour trust fund

Can confirm.

Bought my last bench made 940 at a Bucees in Texas for $19.99

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602482)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 10:21 AM
Author: Wine fat ankles

the venerable Benchmade 940 is only sold at REI and specialty knife stores. Not gas stations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47603920)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 8:35 AM
Author: comical indigo electric furnace

are u sure??? the pumo said you can get it for 90% cheaper at a gas station.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47606226)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:28 AM
Author: rose parlour trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47608265)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 7:43 AM
Author: Boyish puce boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47608385)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 7:52 AM
Author: Chestnut wonderful site pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47608390)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 6:17 PM
Author: Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe

Get a new wife and a new 940 (they are in the benchmade custom shop now).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602534)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 6:22 PM
Author: rose parlour trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47602544)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 10:25 AM
Author: Fragrant Up-to-no-good Half-breed

more like bitchmade 120, amirite?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47603939)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:13 PM
Author: Charismatic Cordovan Area New Version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47607924)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:32 PM
Author: Sable Location Internal Respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47609186)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:48 AM
Author: Trump is the Lib Killer (TDNW)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47624154)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 10:29 AM
Author: histrionic pozpig public bath

this thread made me look up what models my knives are and their currently prices. lol, holy shit, these things have gone up in value....565sbk mini freek (a lot), a 525sgry-1 bugout (a little)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47603958)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 10:30 AM
Author: Wine fat ankles

yeah they've gone up a ton in the past year or two. good thing I basically have everything that i ever wanted (except a legit Winkler fixed blade)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47603960)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 7:59 AM
Author: histrionic pozpig public bath

any reason why? i think raw material costs have gone down. i'd guess that demand might have gone down post pandemic with people not online buying stuff constantly, but i could be wrong?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47606199)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 8:58 AM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo

Inflation. Spyderco, benchmade and most other brands have increased their prices about 30% from pre-pandemic pricing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47606254)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 3:31 PM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47604711)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 3:33 PM
Author: saffron police squad

Just find it. My wife does this all the time. She takes my knives to open packages then leaves them around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47604716)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 8:36 AM
Author: comical indigo electric furnace

lol get the wife some cheap box cutters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47606227)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: saffron police squad

She wouldn't use it. My knife is nicer. "Hey, give that back to be when you're done." "Sure!" (She won't)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47607954)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:00 AM
Author: peach stag film

wow that knife got shit reviews on Amazon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47606260)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe

The benchmade 940 is the best folder ever and reviewers are just pissed they have to pay a premium.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47607849)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:58 PM
Author: saffron police squad

HK Axis is better, but discontinued. And yes, Benchmade made that one too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47608227)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 3:12 AM
Author: Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe

Now that the axis lock is off patent it’s interesting to see how popular it is among other brands, but I still like benchmade the best. The only quibble, and it’s very minor because, frankly it’s not that much of an advantage over say S30v, but benchmade needs more magnacut. I strongly dislike S90v. Why I bought one with it I have no idea. M4 is really nice, I got the bladehq 940 in M4 when it was available, but you have to touch up the edge as it micro corrodes or something. Magnacut seems like it is really pretty good, but how much better than S30v? I don’t think I care enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47608330)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:30 PM
Author: saffron police squad

LOL, this is all far more serious than I am. My HK Axis is my EDC and has been for 10+ years. I have some SOG knives that I like and a Spyderco Autonomy 2 automatic. The HK is my only Benchmade and I don't see any other Benchmades that I love.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47609177)



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Date: April 26th, 2024 3:22 AM
Author: Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe

I carried a Walmart gerber for eons and then I was like shit, I can spend money on knives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47610575)



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Date: April 26th, 2024 3:18 PM
Author: saffron police squad

None of these knives are cheap knives. The Spyderco Autonomy 2 is like a $300 knife.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47611623)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 5:33 PM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo

Agree that if benchmade wants to justify their prices, they need to move on from s30v.

Spyderco's base steel in most models is now s45vn but they make variants of their US models in pretty much any steel you want. So I guess somewhat they can point to better materials for their price hikes. Benchmade? Same exact shit but now 30% more expensive.

That said, the steel nerd bullshit is mostly a marketing scam. Every couple years the current super steel becomes ubiquitous and something else comes along to replace it. Couple years ago it was m390/20cv/204p Now it's BIGDICKMAGNACUT bc it can be heat treated to motherfucking 63 HRC!

In reality, hardly anyone is using their $500 knife enough to notice the difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47609816)



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Date: April 26th, 2024 12:38 PM
Author: Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe

S30v, s35v, s45v seem to be all basically the same. I don’t see much advantage to one over another. Magnacut seems like a small step up mainly in corrosion resistance but I have not seen a spec of rust on S30v or S35v.

S90v and s110v I don’t understand the appeal at all. Maybe if you never want to sharpen and all you use the knife for is cutting paper?

M4 I like. Only thing I have noticed is the edge gets visibly darker as in some form of oxidation no longer a mirror finish. But whatever. It still cuts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47611300)



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Date: April 26th, 2024 5:57 PM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo

Corrosion resistance is important. More so than edge retention and toughness for most pocket knife users.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47611894)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:03 AM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo

great post. yeah the 940 is definitely not highly regarded at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47608236)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 7:54 AM
Author: Chestnut wonderful site pistol

(guy loading up on 4.7 star "probiotic cognitive enhancement" pills)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47608392)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:43 PM
Author: Sable Location Internal Respiration

Benchmades are complete flame

It's the preferred knife for male-to-male transexuals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47609286)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: cerise whorehouse ceo

Benchmade is basically a boomer tax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47609502)



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Date: April 26th, 2024 3:22 AM
Author: aphrodisiac school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47610574)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 3:54 PM
Author: lascivious library lettuce

they're $200, don't be a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47609507)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 3:54 PM
Author: lascivious library lettuce

imagine thinking a knife will EVER come in handy outside of hunting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47609509)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 5:35 PM
Author: Wine fat ankles

I used an EDC NO LESS THAN three times today. None of them were for hunting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47609822)



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Date: April 26th, 2024 3:21 AM
Author: Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe

Do you not get Amazon boxes? Do you not open mail? Do you not need to stab people?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47610573)



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Date: April 26th, 2024 12:20 PM
Author: lascivious library lettuce

ever heard of a box cutter?

and for opening mail u don't need anything besides your hands. it's weird people don't know how to open envelopes from the side with their finger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47611278)



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Date: April 26th, 2024 12:32 PM
Author: Obsidian Haunting University Sweet Tailpipe

A box cutter is a knife and yes you can open mail, blister packs, and everything else with your hands if you try enough, but a knife makes all this easy and why not have a nice knife rather than a shitty plastic box cutter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47611284)



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Date: April 26th, 2024 8:39 AM
Author: racy talking chad

Look around for your favorite Big Dog T-shirt while you're at it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47610793)



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Date: April 26th, 2024 12:35 PM
Author: Mind-boggling stage

you should stab her ..oh wait, you cant now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47611294)



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Date: April 28th, 2024 9:20 AM
Author: "''"'"'""'""

lol at you goys thinking you need to carry around a knife because knife manufacturers started marketing their products as “EDC” LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47614983)



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Date: April 28th, 2024 9:41 AM
Author: dat snoot

Lol I'm such a goy!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47615000)



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Date: April 28th, 2024 10:36 AM
Author: "''"'"'""'""

you need to carry it EVERY DAY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47615085)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 1:25 AM
Author: Drunkard

I have been carrying a knife since I was a kid. I still have that knife. A victorinox spartan with black scales.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47620558)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 10:02 AM
Author: "''"'"'""'""

does anyone ever laugh at you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47620940)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 10:29 AM
Author: dat snoot

everyone loves a knifeman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47621010)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:40 AM
Author: Drunkard

No, I have a knife (and gun).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520477&forum_id=2#47624147)