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WTF was Japan thinking with Pearl Harbor?

they were no match for the US, even without the A bomb
Marvelous locus
  04/22/24
they didnt have a choice b/c of our blockaid?
floppy kitty cat blood rage
  04/22/24
They only needed oil from the indies because they lost acces...
irradiated olive house
  04/22/24
Blockaid? Is that like providing help or assistance in the f...
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  04/22/24
"Blockaid" is actually a good slogan to deplore th...
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  04/23/24
The emperor was legit retarded and we should have executed h...
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  04/22/24
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  04/23/24
If Pearl Harbor was successful, it would have bought them an...
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*were
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  04/23/24
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  04/29/24
They meant to knock out the carriers and take over all of as...
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  04/22/24
If they got the carriers it would’ve been a big deal i...
indecent domesticated school cafeteria
  04/22/24
not really. maybe given them another 8-12 months. Japanese l...
beady-eyed clown
  04/23/24
Itt: guy with 20/20 hindsight mocks the decision making of J...
arrogant hissy fit
  04/22/24
Russia mocked their decisionmaking in real time with no hind...
irradiated olive house
  04/22/24
Some people are definitely naturally smarter than me I do...
arrogant hissy fit
  04/22/24
Oh shit I was really hoping to impress you and win you over,...
irradiated olive house
  04/23/24
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Comical maniacal windowlicker
  04/22/24
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smoky electric furnace
  04/29/24
literally japan's only chance to win the war was to embargo ...
Lilac dead prole laser beams
  04/22/24
Germany did give Japan advance notice. Little known fact: Ja...
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  04/22/24
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Sepia Razzle Wrinkle Locale
  04/23/24
There's literally not a mention in here of James Bond beside...
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  04/23/24
See below. I didn't want to say too much about this without ...
irradiated olive house
  04/28/24
Japan did nothing to help Germany w Russia. Russia had like...
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  04/23/24
With US oil embargo Japan had to choose: 1) abandon empire ...
hot sanctuary main people
  04/22/24
abandon empire wasn't an option for them. but if it played ...
Lilac dead prole laser beams
  04/22/24
They had just gotten fucked up by the Russians a few years p...
arrogant hissy fit
  04/22/24
which is why they were fucked because their thinking was too...
Lilac dead prole laser beams
  04/22/24
I can sympathize with a people that choose violent militaris...
arrogant hissy fit
  04/22/24
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&mc=...
Lilac dead prole laser beams
  04/22/24
You should be more humble about dismissing their decision ma...
arrogant hissy fit
  04/22/24
They had no idea they were being walked into a trap at Khalk...
irradiated olive house
  04/22/24
TO BE FAIR HE WAS A GERMAN CORPORAL OF AUSTRIAN DESCENT OKAY...
concupiscible chapel fortuitous meteor
  04/28/24
Okay, I lol’d
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smoky electric furnace
  04/29/24
Their empire sucked dick for no good reason. They never had ...
irradiated olive house
  04/22/24
if only they had your Q-tier schizophrenia to guide them
Lilac dead prole laser beams
  04/22/24
Instead they followed you advice and got two nukes. EAT SHIT...
irradiated olive house
  04/22/24
yeah they followed "my advice" take your meds f...
Lilac dead prole laser beams
  04/22/24
Yamamoto 1941: attacking the USA is suicide cock of micha...
irradiated olive house
  04/22/24
where did I write "it made sense at the time"? ...
Lilac dead prole laser beams
  04/22/24
EAT SHIT
irradiated olive house
  04/22/24
lol. you really need to triple your meds
Lilac dead prole laser beams
  04/22/24
You're free to ignore my poasts, but instead you will read t...
irradiated olive house
  04/22/24
take your meds, schizo
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  04/23/24
"fuck it why not"
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smoky electric furnace
  04/29/24
As others said, they didn't have many options. It's like hit...
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  04/22/24
yeah bro assyria was a regional power
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hot sanctuary main people
  04/22/24
This is basically TCR. Japan knew that they were fucked in a...
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This guy WWIIs
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  04/23/24
The only reason we won midway is because we repaired the Yor...
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  04/23/24
I can't find a single self-contained link that backs this up...
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  04/23/24
US having all that oil is the core reason the US side won ...
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  04/23/24
You lied about being in the Marines, RSF. For entirely se...
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  04/23/24
The us was 2x Japan’s size in terms of population and ...
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mostly cr except everyone knew USA was the 800 lb gorilla ...
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They knew nowag was real and just wanted to clean house
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ever get so drunk you thought, fuck it, she's not that fat, ...
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As someone suggested above, they thought that if they hit ha...
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  04/22/24
Their culture revered suicidal courage.
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  04/22/24
You mean like XO’s culture?
smoky electric furnace
  04/29/24
Another weird element was the rivalry between the Japanese a...
Hyperactive curious piazza
  04/22/24
The Army occupied and subdued all of China, got a big head o...
irradiated olive house
  04/22/24
lol@ this Even while fending off Japanese attacks earlier...
irradiated olive house
  04/22/24
Zhukov is my favorite Soviet and it's not even close
Hyperactive curious piazza
  04/22/24
lol. He was the first Russian general I ever learned about. ...
irradiated olive house
  04/23/24
He was not even a top 5 Soviet general. Rokosovsky was his b...
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smoky electric furnace
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Tojo got a "YOLO" tattoo. The rest unfolded natu...
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  04/23/24
I never understood why do that and then not pound the US wes...
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  04/23/24
hitting the oil storage facilities in Hawaii alone would hav...
flushed insecure athletic conference weed whacker
  04/23/24
Their ONE WRONG MOVE was leaving the Panama Canal intact. Th...
irradiated olive house
  04/23/24
They couldn’t even attack Midway without getting their...
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Japs, as a race, have low impulse control and lack future ti...
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They also hadn't been modernized long enough to take in a lo...
irradiated olive house
  04/23/24
hirohito was a puppet of international banking interests and...
Harsh Pit
  04/23/24
This is the deal we ultimately cut, but it wasn't part of th...
irradiated olive house
  04/23/24
Hubris. Same reason Maverick killed Goose.
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smoky electric furnace
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it was a false flag attack by us
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The Tower of Babel is 180
smoky electric furnace
  04/29/24
Also, the IJN was kind of on par with the US Pacific Fleet a...
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  04/24/24
The US made this same miscalculation with Russia. Russia is ...
Fragrant rigpig station
  04/28/24
Their planes were "superior" for like a year until...
irradiated olive house
  04/28/24
I guess they would've given up on trying to innovate aircraf...
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  04/29/24
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522371&mc...
irradiated olive house
  04/28/24
“I’m gay.”
smoky electric furnace
  04/29/24
Nipps never made a proper tank. Nipps never made a proper ho...
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  04/29/24
The Kwantung army could have raided the USSR in 1941 when St...
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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:05 PM
Author: Marvelous locus

they were no match for the US, even without the A bomb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602938)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:05 PM
Author: floppy kitty cat blood rage

they didnt have a choice b/c of our blockaid?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602942)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:14 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

They only needed oil from the indies because they lost access to Mongolia. That was the army's fault, not the navy, but the navy was told to fix it. I don't think it requires 20/20 hindsight they should have locked down that Mongolian oil before they expanded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602971)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 11:13 PM
Author: Idiotic marketing idea

Blockaid? Is that like providing help or assistance in the form of a block?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603315)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 5:33 PM
Author: Puce aromatic forum

"Blockaid" is actually a good slogan to deplore the Gaza blockade. Surprised shitlibs haven't adopted it yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47605023)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:05 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

The emperor was legit retarded and we should have executed him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602943)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 2:42 PM
Author: hairraiser temple corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47604576)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:07 PM
Author: Thirsty Bearded Goal In Life Casino

If Pearl Harbor was successful, it would have bought them another year or so. Given his experience as an American naval attaché, Admiral Yamamoto didn't want to mess with the US, but he had orders and Pearl Harbor was the best he could do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602949)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 5:37 AM
Author: Snowy church indirect expression

*were

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603658)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: Thirsty Bearded Goal In Life Casino

*we're

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47604958)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:14 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617780)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:07 PM
Author: cerebral bright factory reset button

They meant to knock out the carriers and take over all of asia and for the US to be chill about it and not hellbent on revenge. Really on paper it could’ve worked but in reality it was multiple levels of miscalculations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602950)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 10:48 PM
Author: indecent domesticated school cafeteria

If they got the carriers it would’ve been a big deal imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603268)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 4:47 AM
Author: beady-eyed clown

not really. maybe given them another 8-12 months. Japanese lacked the reach to operate into Australia and beyond the Straits of Malacca into the Indian Ocean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603636)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:08 PM
Author: arrogant hissy fit

Itt: guy with 20/20 hindsight mocks the decision making of Japanese generals privy to 2929282280298283x more information than he has

Japan was stupid to fight a war with America. But if a war had to happen, pearl harbor had the right idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602954)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

Russia mocked their decisionmaking in real time with no hindsight. Maybe some folks are just naturally smarter than you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602964)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:15 PM
Author: arrogant hissy fit

Some people are definitely naturally smarter than me

I don't think you're smarter than my left testicle, based on this post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602976)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 10:54 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

Oh shit I was really hoping to impress you and win you over, faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47605946)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 10:29 PM
Author: Comical maniacal windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603225)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:15 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617781)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: Lilac dead prole laser beams

literally japan's only chance to win the war was to embargo russia's siberia port so land/lease couldn't happen and invade russia at the same time as barbarossa started

but they would have needed germany to give them advance notice (they didn't) and they would have had to both override the very powerful japanese naval bureaucracy which insisted on sea war focus *and* to launch a ground war cutting off japanese supplies when japan was super wary of another ground war against russia given the last one they got totally assraped

put it together and they were simply fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602960)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 10:34 PM
Author: Comical maniacal windowlicker

Germany did give Japan advance notice. Little known fact: James Bond was based on the Soviet spy in Japan who warned the Soviet Union that Germany was about to launch Operation Barbarossa. He also informed the USSR that Japan was going to abide by the terms of their defeat in the Battles of Khalkin Ghol so they didn’t have to hold any meaningful forces in the east.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sorge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603247)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 5:01 PM
Author: Sepia Razzle Wrinkle Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47604949)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:15 PM
Author: buff gas station

There's literally not a mention in here of James Bond besides the Figaro apparently calling him "Stalin's James Bond." Which is interesting, because the article also notes that Stalin failed to intervene and save him from Japan where he was summarily hanged. Kinda seems like a shitty inspiration for James Bond, if you axe me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47605611)



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Date: April 28th, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

See below. I didn't want to say too much about this without a source to back me up. If you see the thread below it's pretty fuckin obvious that Japan miscalculated out of pure fear. The army in particular was gripped with THE FEAR.

In retrospect, Japan's alliance with Germany mean jack shit if there was no defensive alliance. As it stands, doesn't it seem weird that Japan never did shit to help Germany, and Germany never did shit to help Japan, even though they were supposed to be on the same team against Russia and NOT the USA?

It's fucked up. The Kwantung Army was supposed to fierce, but they were more afraid to fight Russia than the navy was afraid to fight the USA. They could have easily defeated Russia but they didn't take their shot in 41.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47616538)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 10:18 PM
Author: Mentally impaired ticket booth hunting ground

Japan did nothing to help Germany w Russia. Russia had like 10 divisions guarding against Japanese invasion of Russia from China and transferred them to stop Germans at Stalingrad after Japan told Russia it wasn’t going to attack.

Not sure why Hitler even declared war on US. Made no sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47605922)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: hot sanctuary main people

With US oil embargo Japan had to choose:

1) abandon empire

2) go to war

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602961)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: Lilac dead prole laser beams

abandon empire wasn't an option for them. but if it played out differently they could have attacked russia instead of the U.S.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602966)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:25 PM
Author: arrogant hissy fit

They had just gotten fucked up by the Russians a few years prior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603011)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:26 PM
Author: Lilac dead prole laser beams

which is why they were fucked because their thinking was too atrophied/afraid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603013)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:29 PM
Author: arrogant hissy fit

I can sympathize with a people that choose violent militarism over supplication in the face of european colonialism. They figured it was empire or slavery.

I can only be so critical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603029)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:30 PM
Author: Lilac dead prole laser beams

https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&mc=24&forum_id=2#47602960

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603034)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: arrogant hissy fit

You should be more humble about dismissing their decision making as simply atrophied/fearful. japan's leadership had tons of shortcomings but cowardice wasn't one. They did nothing but gamble the entire war

What if Japan had a smarter assessment of Soviet military/industrial capacity than Hitler and decided not to fight a grizzly bear based on some retarded Austrian corporal's race theories

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603044)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 10:58 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

They had no idea they were being walked into a trap at Khalkhin Gol. The soviets ran some kind of months long psyop on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603283)



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Date: April 28th, 2024 8:43 PM
Author: concupiscible chapel fortuitous meteor

TO BE FAIR HE WAS A GERMAN CORPORAL OF AUSTRIAN DESCENT OKAY?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47616533)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:18 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace

Okay, I lol’d

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617797)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:23 AM
Author: concupiscible chapel fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617823)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:12 AM
Author: iridescent azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603717)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:15 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617783)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:13 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

Their empire sucked dick for no good reason. They never had a plan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602968)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:14 PM
Author: Lilac dead prole laser beams

if only they had your Q-tier schizophrenia to guide them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602972)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:15 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

Instead they followed you advice and got two nukes. EAT SHIT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602975)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:18 PM
Author: Lilac dead prole laser beams

yeah they followed "my advice"

take your meds freak lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602983)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:19 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

Yamamoto 1941: attacking the USA is suicide

cock of michael obama 2024: it made sense at the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602990)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:21 PM
Author: Lilac dead prole laser beams

where did I write "it made sense at the time"?

ill be waiting schizo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602996)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:22 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

EAT SHIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603004)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:23 PM
Author: Lilac dead prole laser beams

lol. you really need to triple your meds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603007)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:38 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

You're free to ignore my poasts, but instead you will read them and EAT SHIT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603055)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:18 AM
Author: unhinged dog poop

take your meds, schizo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603724)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:20 PM
Author: contagious ruby lettuce state

"fuck it why not"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47602992)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:16 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617788)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:30 PM
Author: heady resort

As others said, they didn't have many options. It's like hitting a 16 against a dealer 10. Probably gonna lose but it's still the best EV. Also, U.S. wasn't nearly as powerful before WWII. The whole idea of a superpower is post-war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603035)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:35 PM
Author: spectacular light goyim trailer park

yeah bro assyria was a regional power

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603049)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 10:27 PM
Author: hot sanctuary main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603217)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 11:39 PM
Author: 180 Khaki Sound Barrier

This is basically TCR. Japan knew that they were fucked in a long-term war against the U.S. Their only hope was to destroy the U.S. Pacific fleet in one strike and hope to bring the U.S. to the negotiation table.

And it's worth pointing out that Japan came extremely close to their objective of decapitating the U.S. in the Pacific. The U.S. only won at Midway due to a string of semi-miraculous events. Take away that miraculous victory, and the U.S. would have been completely defenseless in the Pacific for at least a year or two. Japan could have bombed West Coast cities almost with impunity. They might have even been able to occupy Hawaii, although their supply lines would have been extremely stretched. Japan was hoping that the U.S. public would have preferred to end the oil blockade rather than watch Los Angeles get repeatedly bombed on the nightly news. That was probably wishful thinking, but it was the best hand that they had to play at the time. And it would have looked like a much smarter move in retrospect if Midway had gone just a little differently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603344)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 12:56 AM
Author: Rebellious diverse party of the first part

This guy WWIIs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603477)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 1:17 AM
Author: irradiated olive house

The only reason we won midway is because we repaired the Yorktown fast as fuck. Repair crews won the war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603506)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 1:57 AM
Author: Exciting Internal Respiration

I can't find a single self-contained link that backs this up, but I'm always in awe of the US military-industrial capacity during WWII (incl., but not limited to, shipbuilding).

Really seems like no one could conceivably compete with us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603543)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 2:21 AM
Author: flushed insecure athletic conference weed whacker

US having all that oil is the core reason the US side won

not just for our industry and military but we also easily supplied that allies too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603568)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 7:04 AM
Author: irradiated olive house

You lied about being in the Marines, RSF.

For entirely seller's reasons everyone thinks you're a moron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603688)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 5:04 PM
Author: Sepia Razzle Wrinkle Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47604968)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 10:21 PM
Author: Mentally impaired ticket booth hunting ground

The us was 2x Japan’s size in terms of population and had natural resources that Japan could never muster. Japan never would’ve won long term. Plan was that us would lose interest w mounting losses like it did in Vietnam.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47605924)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:14 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617775)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:11 AM
Author: Outnumbered haunting personal credit line university

mostly cr except everyone knew USA was the 800 lb gorilla

The entire UK war strategy from May 1940-Dec 1941 was based around getting the US into the war because they knew it was their only chance

This was true even in 1917 in fact, and it's why Germany yolo'd the 100 days offensive in spring 1918. everyone knew the USA was the differencemaker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603789)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:11 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617758)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:46 PM
Author: titillating buck-toothed filthpig

They knew nowag was real and just wanted to clean house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603085)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 10:29 PM
Author: misanthropic lodge

ever get so drunk you thought, fuck it, she's not that fat, might as well hit it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603223)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 10:37 PM
Author: Boyish stag film wagecucks

As someone suggested above, they thought that if they hit hard enough, the US would just negotiate.

Given how they daddied Russia around earlier in the century, I can see how they might’ve assumed America would be submissive likewise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603258)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:12 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617769)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 10:41 PM
Author: Sepia Razzle Wrinkle Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603261)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 10:50 PM
Author: jade address

Their culture revered suicidal courage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603270)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:13 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace

You mean like XO’s culture?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617774)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 10:59 PM
Author: Hyperactive curious piazza

Another weird element was the rivalry between the Japanese army and the Japanese navy. They genuinely hated each other and would try to fuck each other over all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603284)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 11:04 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

The Army occupied and subdued all of China, got a big head of steam, and underestimated Russia. Russia literally built hundreds of big tanks and didn't tell anyone. These weren't even the tanks they rolled out against Germany but they smoked Japanese tanks that were about the size of a Bobcat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603292)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 11:10 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

lol@ this

Even while fending off Japanese attacks earlier in the summer, the Soviet commander had studied his opponents’ dispositions, discovering several fatal flaws. The Japanese flanks were covered by unreliable Manchukuoan cavalry and were vulnerable to encirclement. Nor did the Japanese possess a tactical mobile reserve. To cope with flank attacks, they would be compelled to focus on one flank at a time, and disengage forces from action in the center or the other flank. To secure operational surprise, Zhukov employed many varied deceptive measures. Radios broadcast false information and transmitted soundtracks of construction noise. Trucks and aircraft operated day and night to muffle the sound of unit deployment. Such measures convinced the Japanese that the Soviets were also digging in for the winter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603309)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 11:15 PM
Author: Hyperactive curious piazza

Zhukov is my favorite Soviet and it's not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603316)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 5:48 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

lol. He was the first Russian general I ever learned about. I was like "wow, Russia must have produced a lot of great generals. No way this was a one-off."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47605078)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:09 AM
Author: Fragrant rigpig station

He was not even a top 5 Soviet general. Rokosovsky was his brain but was a Pollack so was not trusted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617742)



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Date: April 22nd, 2024 11:21 PM
Author: Frisky thriller market

amphetamines

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603325)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617749)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 4:45 AM
Author: beady-eyed clown

Tojo got a "YOLO" tattoo.

The rest unfolded naturally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603635)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:01 AM
Author: Godawful judgmental gay wizard

I never understood why do that and then not pound the US west coast afterward. Instead they had these little incursions on CA and Oregon while not really doing anything and the entire west coast was protected by local police departments. US wouldn’t have been able to do shit if they launched an attack on SF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603766)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 10:24 AM
Author: flushed insecure athletic conference weed whacker

hitting the oil storage facilities in Hawaii alone would have meant another several month delay in the US machine getting going in the Pacific

but the outcome would have been the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603933)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 3:03 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

Their ONE WRONG MOVE was leaving the Panama Canal intact. They were overcautious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47604606)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:32 AM
Author: Mildly autistic fantasy-prone son of senegal corner

They couldn’t even attack Midway without getting their entire navy destroyed. You think they could invade the western USA with ground forces? LJL.

Also SF was the major west coast military center so it would have been the worst possible target.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617860)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:09 AM
Author: Outnumbered haunting personal credit line university

Japs, as a race, have low impulse control and lack future time orientation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603786)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 3:08 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

They also hadn't been modernized long enough to take in a lot of concepts. Like they had some kind of honor code that involved letting wounded soldiers bleed out. For the longest time they did not teach basic first aid to their troops.

It actually reminds me of Ukrainecucks, like TDNW when he mocked Russians for using tampons to plug bullet wounds. That stupid fuck still claims he was in the Marines but he has the brain of a suicidal Japanese soldier from 1935.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47604619)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 10:23 AM
Author: Harsh Pit

hirohito was a puppet of international banking interests and simply followed the orders he was given.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47603929)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 10:19 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

This is the deal we ultimately cut, but it wasn't part of the social contract he had previously formed with the Japanese people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47605923)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 2:44 PM
Author: hairraiser temple corn cake

Hubris. Same reason Maverick killed Goose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47604579)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617748)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 1:17 PM
Author: hairraiser temple corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47618446)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:07 PM
Author: insanely creepy digit ratio nursing home

it was a false flag attack by us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47605552)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:17 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace

The Tower of Babel is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617793)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 8:42 AM
Author: Boyish stag film wagecucks

Also, the IJN was kind of on par with the US Pacific Fleet at the outset. Their planes were superior.

What they didn't understand, I guess, was that our capacity to build more carriers and planes - and improve them - vastly vastly outstripped theirs. All we had to do was prevent them from spreading too quickly in year 1, and then we steamrolled them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47606240)



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Date: April 28th, 2024 8:49 PM
Author: Fragrant rigpig station

The US made this same miscalculation with Russia. Russia is not a gas station with nukes. Russia is a missile factory with nukes. All they do is make weapons: Their production capacity dwarfs NATO’s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47616547)



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Date: April 28th, 2024 8:50 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

Their planes were "superior" for like a year until we built more planes. The Zero was like the VW Bug - they were all tuned up to keep making shitloads of this one rugged design long after it was being outclassed by more modern designs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47616549)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: Boyish stag film wagecucks

I guess they would've given up on trying to innovate aircraft anyway after most of their carriers got sunk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617716)



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Date: April 28th, 2024 8:42 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522371&mc=15&forum_id=2



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47616528)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: smoky electric furnace

“I’m gay.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617752)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: Fragrant rigpig station

Nipps never made a proper tank. Nipps never made a proper howitzer. Nipps never made a proper pistol. It’s frankly a wonder they lasted as long as they did. They were basically fighting a 1940s war with 1910 technology and in some cases 1890 tech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47617753)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: irradiated olive house

The Kwantung army could have raided the USSR in 1941 when Stalin was busy with Hitler. They could have taken Siberian oil and timber. It would have finished off the USSR and Germany would have won the war. They only went with the Southern Operation out of fear of a Soviet threat that no longer existed. They had PTSD from their encounter with the Soviets two years earlier. This thread made me go back and research this to confirm my analysis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520547&forum_id=2#47618551)