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This interpretation of 401k match language would make DBG very proud (pic)

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aromatic shaky theatre
  04/24/24
Smart!
Jade Parlor
  04/24/24
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Coral sinister locale private investor
  04/24/24
lmao
White garrison fat ankles
  04/24/24
lmao
Lake Soul-stirring Haunted Graveyard Lodge
  04/24/24
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frum love of her life
  04/24/24
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Mewling Azn Mad-dog Skullcap
  04/24/24
I don't see any other interpretation
Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse
  04/24/24
cr. OP is retarded for poasting this
irradiated library
  04/24/24
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fuchsia site
  04/25/24
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aromatic shaky theatre
  04/24/24
With a 5 year vesting schedule
At-the-ready university stain
  04/24/24
How much is their HR team freaking out right now? I'd thi...
floppy carmine stage prole
  04/24/24
the hr team? not at all the innumerate and/or illiterate sh...
disgusting cracking candlestick maker
  04/24/24
I think its at best a scriveners error and at worse fraud. ...
floppy carmine stage prole
  04/24/24
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laughsome orchestra pit
  04/24/24
Does a typical CBA have an integration clause and mutual dra...
Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse
  04/24/24
One weird trick.
Boyish federal box office
  04/24/24
Why would you need a labor attorney? 99.9% of companies ...
floppy carmine stage prole
  04/24/24
What difference does it make what industry standard terms ar...
Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse
  04/24/24
it's not the indemnity section of a purchase agreement revie...
Flesh Swashbuckling Range Queen Of The Night
  04/25/24
It's a CBA. It was negotiated by the union, not just impose...
Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse
  04/25/24
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seedy curious ape gaping
  04/24/24
How dumb are you, bro? The sentence only has one reasonable ...
fuchsia site
  04/25/24
lmao
disgusting cracking candlestick maker
  04/24/24
i can't read this in a way that makes the company's version ...
Orange exciting lay
  04/24/24
employee contribution - $79.30 the "first 6%" of ...
narrow-minded racy house chad
  04/24/24
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heady indecent stead scourge upon the earth
  04/24/24
See below. Your math renders the entire formula moot. ...
floppy carmine stage prole
  04/25/24
Yeah - if we're pretending to be a law board - there's no lo...
floppy carmine stage prole
  04/24/24
It's not at all ambiguous. It clearly means 3% of the amount...
Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse
  04/25/24
Then why did they not write 3% instead of saying 50% of 6%?
floppy carmine stage prole
  04/25/24
What difference does it make? Contractual language isn't re...
Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse
  04/25/24
Because your reading of it relies on the contract being draf...
floppy carmine stage prole
  04/25/24
and then one day, for no reason at all
Vigorous ticket booth electric furnace
  04/25/24
Lmao “And be grateful you get that much!”
ivory diverse public bath
  04/25/24
hilarious
Demanding self-centered heaven
  04/25/24
“Enjoy!”
zippy locus
  04/25/24
...
laughsome orchestra pit
  04/25/24
lol
Fluffy flirting tattoo theater
  04/25/24
, after a 15 percent gratuity deduction.
fuchsia site
  04/25/24
...
aromatic shaky theatre
  04/25/24
"First" 6% is nonsensical; it's probably language ...
bateful degenerate
  04/25/24


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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:04 PM
Author: aromatic shaky theatre

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL7ixUpW8AANjEb?format=jpg&name=large

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607905)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:05 PM
Author: Jade Parlor

Smart!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607907)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:07 PM
Author: Coral sinister locale private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607908)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:09 PM
Author: White garrison fat ankles

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607911)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: Lake Soul-stirring Haunted Graveyard Lodge

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607912)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: frum love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607913)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: Mewling Azn Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607920)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:14 PM
Author: Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse

I don't see any other interpretation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607929)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:57 PM
Author: irradiated library

cr. OP is retarded for poasting this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607970)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:36 PM
Author: fuchsia site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609654)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:15 PM
Author: aromatic shaky theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607934)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:02 PM
Author: At-the-ready university stain

With a 5 year vesting schedule

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607978)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:04 PM
Author: floppy carmine stage prole

How much is their HR team freaking out right now?

I'd think plausibly they facing a lawsuit where they probably owe 3% of everyone's wages for a few years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607988)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:07 PM
Author: disgusting cracking candlestick maker

the hr team? not at all

the innumerate and/or illiterate shitlawyer and union reps who negotiated a “match” of 3% of the first 6% for their clients, otoh…

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607997)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: floppy carmine stage prole

I think its at best a scriveners error and at worse fraud.

I really doubt a judge is going to go "Yeah it was totally chill for the company to mimic standard language but twist it to only pay people 1/20th what a reasonable worker would assume based on industry standards without fully disclosing the diffference."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608002)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:19 PM
Author: laughsome orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608025)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:29 PM
Author: Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse

Does a typical CBA have an integration clause and mutual drafting clause? If so, why would a judge do anything but look at what it says?

Do we have a labor lawyer in the house?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608060)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:33 PM
Author: Boyish federal box office

One weird trick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608080)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:44 PM
Author: floppy carmine stage prole

Why would you need a labor attorney?

99.9% of companies offer something similar to a 50% match of an employees contributions up to 6% of their salary. They're clearly using an industry term and there was an error in drafting.

If this was truly their intent, and the company's attorney wasn't a full blown moron, then the next line has to say "By way of example, if an an employee makes $100,000 and contributes $6,000 to their 401k, employer will contribute $180.00 to the 401k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608108)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:09 PM
Author: Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse

What difference does it make what industry standard terms are? Parties aren't required to used industry standard terms. The language quoted by the Redditor is perfectly intelligible, and it doesn't provide for a match capped based on compensation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608170)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:20 AM
Author: Flesh Swashbuckling Range Queen Of The Night

it's not the indemnity section of a purchase agreement reviewed separately by 30 different lawyers. it doesn't benefit society to have employees look out for gotcha language in 99% boilerplate 401k agreements that they sign during orientation

ski resort sneaks in "we have the right to fuck your wife at any time" in 6 font in the waiver

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608252)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:34 AM
Author: Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse

It's a CBA. It was negotiated by the union, not just imposed on the employees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608268)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: seedy curious ape gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608066)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: fuchsia site

How dumb are you, bro? The sentence only has one reasonable meaning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609658)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:05 PM
Author: disgusting cracking candlestick maker

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607991)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:38 PM
Author: Orange exciting lay

i can't read this in a way that makes the company's version true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608200)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:53 PM
Author: narrow-minded racy house chad

employee contribution - $79.30

the "first 6%" of that contribution - $4.76

company matches 50% of that 6% - $2.38

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608214)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:57 PM
Author: heady indecent stead scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608224)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:00 AM
Author: floppy carmine stage prole

See below.

Your math renders the entire formula moot.

It'd be like if you wrote a contract saying, "Buyer will be able to achieve an earnout equal to 1/2 times 1/4 divided by 6 times 11 multiplied by the 2026 revenue."

Why would you write it so stupidly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608230)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:55 PM
Author: floppy carmine stage prole

Yeah - if we're pretending to be a law board - there's no logical reason to phrase it that they'll match 50% of the first 6% of your contributions - it's a pretty nonsensical structure. Why not just say they'll match the first 3% of the actual money you put into your account?

There's no logical reason to have the 50% of the 6% if they both refer to contributions...

It's clearly ambiguous and you look to what this phrasing means within the industry and its obvious that the intent is that they'll match 50% of your contributions up to 6% of your salary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608220)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:10 AM
Author: Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse

It's not at all ambiguous. It clearly means 3% of the amount contributed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608244)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: floppy carmine stage prole

Then why did they not write 3% instead of saying 50% of 6%?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608842)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:40 PM
Author: Mildly autistic mental disorder crackhouse

What difference does it make? Contractual language isn't rendered ambiguous simply on account of there being a clearer and more succinct way to express the same meaning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608846)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 8:54 PM
Author: floppy carmine stage prole

Because your reading of it relies on the contract being drafted with multiple fraction as a math equation, which probably 0.00001% of all contracts in history have been drafted with such stupidity, and my interpretation aligns it with probably 30-60% of all similar 401k match programs.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47610189)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: Vigorous ticket booth electric furnace
Subject: and then one day, for no reason at all

because good kikesmanship requires plausibly deniable deceit

normies will read that as 3% of your compensation (or 50% of your contribution), not 3% "on the first 6% of [your] contributions.", i.e., 3% of 0.06*paycheck. In other words, it's tricky wording to masquerade the order of operations. Half of 6% applied to your (((contribution))), rather than half of 6% applied to your compensation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608871)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:45 PM
Author: ivory diverse public bath

Lmao

“And be grateful you get that much!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608856)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 1:48 PM
Author: Demanding self-centered heaven

hilarious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608959)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:04 PM
Author: zippy locus

“Enjoy!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609039)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:13 PM
Author: laughsome orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609079)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:07 PM
Author: Fluffy flirting tattoo theater

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609055)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:39 PM
Author: fuchsia site

, after a 15 percent gratuity deduction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609665)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 7:44 PM
Author: aromatic shaky theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47610076)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: bateful degenerate

"First" 6% is nonsensical; it's probably language that was redrafted multiple times and they fucked up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47610118)