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Reading Devil's Chessboard, about Allen Dulles. The Dulles bros story is INSANE

Allen "served" 8 potuses, from Wilson to Kennedy. ...
cream curious shrine brethren
  04/29/24
the drummer of the Police grew up in Syria and Lebanon with ...
Stimulating ceo
  04/29/24
lol was just reading a chapter about the very early cold ...
cream curious shrine brethren
  04/29/24
Dulles was a master politician as well-- he ran the Council ...
Stimulating ceo
  04/29/24
fun part about the book is that I constantly vacillate betwe...
cream curious shrine brethren
  04/29/24
he was a womanizer to top it off-- had the best mistresses a...
Stimulating ceo
  04/29/24
both his wife and his mistress shared the same therapist -- ...
cream curious shrine brethren
  04/29/24
archetypal cocksucker-- that's who AD was
Stimulating ceo
  04/29/24
Then he got fired, then the President got shot in the head. ...
flesh field
  04/29/24
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Beady-eyed skinny woman forum
  04/29/24
havent got to the kennedy stuff yet, but they tease it in th...
cream curious shrine brethren
  04/29/24
so what's in the 500 pages that by law must be released but ...
Navy effete office
  04/29/24
ty for the rec
Aromatic athletic conference
  04/29/24
truly bad people
Soul-stirring honey-headed jew
  04/29/24
book is good but the major flaw is the author has a huge fuc...
Big stage mad-dog skullcap
  04/29/24
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Swashbuckling private investor patrolman
  04/29/24
sigh ok
Jade Public Bath
  04/29/24
Just ordered it on Kindle, looks good.
Wonderful Abusive Piazza Boiling Water
  04/29/24


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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:35 AM
Author: cream curious shrine brethren

Allen "served" 8 potuses, from Wilson to Kennedy. I quote served because this mf did whatever he wanted, no matter what agenda some president had.

Its the most insane story Ive ever read. Strongly recommend you read this book. It narrates the birth of the deep state, and in a sense the end of the American republic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47617381)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:42 AM
Author: Stimulating ceo

the drummer of the Police grew up in Syria and Lebanon with a Pakistani nanny thinking his father was an oil consultant, instead of the elite spy he was in fact

https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/miles-copeland/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47617392)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:55 AM
Author: cream curious shrine brethren

lol

was just reading a chapter about the very early cold war. dulles learned about some quaker lib who had a job offer to join faculty in prague.

guy was not connected to intelligence at all, was just some dude.

dulles planted seeds with the soviets that this guy was a major spy.

guy shows up in prague, immediately detained, tortured, held for YEARS. The dude's brother, wife, and daughter all went to eastern europe to find him. they all got nabbed, tortured, sent to siberia, etc.

it was all just a game to dulles, who wanted stalin worried and overreacting to fake news.

the guy actually knew dulles as a kind of acquaintance and just got his whole family's life wrecked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47617421)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:01 AM
Author: Stimulating ceo

Dulles was a master politician as well-- he ran the Council on Foreign Affairs, influencing America's best minds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47617444)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:08 AM
Author: cream curious shrine brethren

fun part about the book is that I constantly vacillate between moral judgments on him

Con: He was clearly psychopathic, an actual serial killer. Directly causing torture and murder didn't seem to provoke the slightest qualms. He would have people killed for no good reason at all. He probably did more than any American to create our current state of government (more than FDR even), in which democracy is total fraud and there is a shadow government of oligarchs running the globe. Concepts like "the will of the people" did not even merit consideration to him.

Pro: He may have been an early understander that democracy was shit and the world really runs on an aristocratic elite making decisions. Nearly alone in the FDR administration, he realized that the real enemy was the Soviets and the US needed to retain strong Nazis running Germany and Europe. He did everything he could to protect former Nazis who were competent and in the "club". He was pragmatic at a time when shitlib progressives were fully committed to some idealistic morality where you just kill all the "bad guys" and replace them with anyone else who can surely do the job.

He really was the embodiment of XO BIGLAW partner, of which he is probably the most consequential in history

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47617460)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:10 AM
Author: Stimulating ceo

he was a womanizer to top it off-- had the best mistresses and worked them all for data mining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47617468)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:12 AM
Author: cream curious shrine brethren

both his wife and his mistress shared the same therapist -- Carl Jung, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47617477)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:14 AM
Author: Stimulating ceo

archetypal cocksucker-- that's who AD was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47617480)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:01 AM
Author: flesh field

Then he got fired, then the President got shot in the head. Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47617446)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:10 AM
Author: Beady-eyed skinny woman forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47617467)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:10 AM
Author: cream curious shrine brethren

havent got to the kennedy stuff yet, but they tease it in the prologue describing how, even after being technically out of the CIA in November 1963, his home saw a flurry of spook visits in the weeks leading up to the shooting, and the day of the killing he was, weird, chilling at a CIA safehouse in virginia where he had no business being.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47617469)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 1:05 PM
Author: Navy effete office

so what's in the 500 pages that by law must be released but no POTUS obeys the law because the CIA keeps talking the POTUS out of obeying the law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47618409)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 11:30 AM
Author: Aromatic athletic conference

ty for the rec

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47618036)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 12:59 PM
Author: Soul-stirring honey-headed jew

truly bad people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47618390)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 11:16 PM
Author: Big stage mad-dog skullcap

book is good but the major flaw is the author has a huge fucking blind spot for the kennedy family. thinks they're basically all saints who wanted to do the right thing but just got duped by the evil cia/deep state. the deep state is in fact evil but the whole kenendy clan were scum too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47620381)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 11:23 PM
Author: Swashbuckling private investor patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47620393)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 11:19 PM
Author: Jade Public Bath

sigh ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47620386)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 11:19 PM
Author: Wonderful Abusive Piazza Boiling Water

Just ordered it on Kindle, looks good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522631&forum_id=2#47620387)