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“Homeownership” is retarded unless you want to stay in house forever

Just do pay shit loads of interest for 7 years, sell and the...
Talking Gas Station
  04/29/24
youre building equity bro
lascivious friendly grandma
  04/29/24
First 7 years are massively weighted towards interest paymen...
Talking Gas Station
  04/29/24
House prices do and will go up forever. Borrowing to buy a ...
magical useless hunting ground multi-billionaire
  04/29/24
This is laughably wrong. House prices generally track inflat...
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
Home prices double every 5-7 years
magical useless hunting ground multi-billionaire
  04/29/24
I have a friend who bought his house in 1992 for $250,000. T...
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
Wrong. How could a gut renovation be less than half of the ...
magical useless hunting ground multi-billionaire
  04/29/24
32 years is a long time. He told me they spent over $150k on...
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
I own 3 properties. I wasn't a retard so I bought ones that ...
scarlet potus
  04/29/24
I find this impossible to believe. Every house is a nightmar...
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
I'm being pretty misleading. They're all apartments in a Tie...
scarlet potus
  04/29/24
Here is where you can be very wrong. My wife and I bought a ...
sapphire nursing home doctorate
  04/29/24
...
Alcoholic hominid step-uncle's house
  04/29/24
sweet
Arousing filthy love of her life partner
  04/29/24
I think you meant SWeet
sapphire nursing home doctorate
  04/30/24
I rent out three of my former primary residences. Extremely ...
scarlet potus
  04/29/24
Owning real property and participating in the game of Amerik...
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
What you're supposed to do is model all of these expenses in...
scarlet potus
  04/29/24
I can kind of pay my bills Insurance is a complete runaway ...
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
I have you beat on childcare. I'm at over $100k / year. (10...
scarlet potus
  04/29/24
It's true, you should never sellcuck. If you need a bigger ...
Razzle aqua office
  04/29/24
I’ve come to accept that there is no rational option i...
brindle weed whacker
  04/29/24
...
vivacious metal pisswyrm
  04/29/24
Just raise a family in an apartment complex full of governme...
Chrome marvelous police squad queen of the night
  04/29/24
this. homeownership is retarded, but not as retarded as rent...
slimy medicated round eye shrine
  04/29/24
...
Excitant lay trust fund
  04/29/24
here in Brussels, I can't wait to return to my homeland and ...
wonderful new version
  04/29/24
Ligonier Valley?
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
yessir, 6 acres to build my falling water house near Linn R...
wonderful new version
  04/29/24
Wow. 180. I’d like to live over there too.
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
let's make it happen- Frank Lloyd Wright inspired Americana
wonderful new version
  04/29/24
I’d just prefer a simple ranch style house with a base...
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
ranch style house-- u should build in Arizona https://fran...
wonderful new version
  04/29/24
I don’t want some artsy fartsy house. I want a house w...
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
if u can dream it, it can happen-- only in America
wonderful new version
  04/29/24
My dream is to just go back in time and be an offshore rough...
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
hey, Jack Kerouac
wonderful new version
  04/29/24
your dream is for your children to never have been born? yo...
heady ebony clown
  04/30/24
Ok but will buying a house get me in house in the first plac...
High-end motley point turdskin
  04/29/24
if you bought a million dollar home 5 years ago it would be ...
Exhilarant crystalline plaza ceo
  04/29/24
Houses around here have crashed 20-30% in the last year.
Glittery magenta hospital prole
  04/29/24
wow Houston, TX, must be a real shithole then
Cyan talented stage
  04/29/24
If you put 1 million in wingstop stock you’d have 4 mi...
internet-worthy self-centered stag film
  04/29/24
I bought in very late 2021 at what was near peak of the mark...
brindle weed whacker
  04/29/24
People railing against home ownership are fucking idiots who...
Burgundy pistol
  04/29/24
(Prole who bought house with 50k down payment)
Talking Gas Station
  04/29/24
Rates were 3% why put more down?
Burgundy pistol
  04/29/24
The house isn't the problem. It's the wife who wants you to ...
comical dun haunted graveyard
  04/29/24
Pro tip: in that case, you're the problem
slap-happy chad
  04/30/24
"we need to pay $8,000 to convert a small part of our u...
comical dun haunted graveyard
  04/30/24
I paid $6000 this week to have landscaping and plumbing work...
heady ebony clown
  04/30/24
These retards also don’t look at taxes. You get an exe...
sable mediation corn cake
  04/29/24
My interest rate is under 3%. Money for free.
Mint dysfunction
  04/29/24
"owning a house only makes sense if you want to live in...
shimmering cerebral cruise ship wrinkle
  04/30/24
Absolutely devastating for housemos
slap-happy chad
  04/30/24


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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:27 PM
Author: Talking Gas Station

Just do pay shit loads of interest for 7 years, sell and then do it again at another house lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619708)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:28 PM
Author: lascivious friendly grandma

youre building equity bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619712)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:29 PM
Author: Talking Gas Station

First 7 years are massively weighted towards interest payments. You build almost no equity unless house price only go up forever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619714)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:38 PM
Author: magical useless hunting ground multi-billionaire

House prices do and will go up forever. Borrowing to buy a house is the single best thing most people can do to build wealth. Buy as much as you can, always.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619742)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:59 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

This is laughably wrong. House prices generally track inflation. Plenty of years where the house is flat and inflation is 2%.

Homes are just sinks for taxes, insurance, maintenance, HOAs, worthless utilities, never ending bullshit, break ins, squatters, noisy neighbors, nosy neighbors, illegal neighbors. It’s just a neverending river of shit these single family homes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619815)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:02 PM
Author: magical useless hunting ground multi-billionaire

Home prices double every 5-7 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619825)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:07 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

I have a friend who bought his house in 1992 for $250,000. Today he could sell for $1,000,000. BUT, the entire house has been gutted to the studs and completely redone at a cost of like $300k. Plus all the other crap they put into it. Conservatively, they have like $700k in it. So their appreciation after 32 years works out to less than $10k per year, and it’s a lot less after you factor for inflation and opportunity cost.

Houses don’t appreciate. They just cost you a fortune. They literally empty your pockets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619836)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:09 PM
Author: magical useless hunting ground multi-billionaire

Wrong. How could a gut renovation be less than half of the amount invested in the house after purchase? Obviously couldn't. How would you even know any of this? Do better with your shitty flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619842)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:15 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

32 years is a long time. He told me they spent over $150k on an addition. Gut Reno came later at a cost of $300k. That’s $450k for the two big Renos plus $250k purchase which sums to $700k basis (and I think they did things like sprinklers, various upgrades, new Siding, new driveway, new windows, landscaping too).

$1m - $700k = $300k

After accounting for inflation it’s probably less than $200k. Over 32 years. It’s completely trivial appreciation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619867)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: scarlet potus

I own 3 properties. I wasn't a retard so I bought ones that didn't require any work.

Between all three, I've spent maybe $10k total over ~10+ years, at most. Just replaced some carpets, snaked a few drains, and replaces a few appliances.

You may not know this, but you're allowed to inspect a property before you buy it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619848)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:11 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

I find this impossible to believe. Every house is a nightmare and a ticking time bomb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619850)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:13 PM
Author: scarlet potus

I'm being pretty misleading. They're all apartments in a Tier 1 city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619857)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:17 PM
Author: sapphire nursing home doctorate

Here is where you can be very wrong. My wife and I bought a place in 2018 for $498k at 3.5% interest. We put $200k down. We still owe $255000 on the mortgage, but we put the house on the market this weekend (it listed Thursday) for $975,000 and we got over 25 offers with the highest being $1,050,000.

After commissions, costs and paying off the mortgage, we will walk with $753,000. Which means, we profited $553,000 in less than 5.5 years: $100,000 a year. We're moving to SC and our newly built home is coming in right at $722,000. So, we'll have no mortgage. Now, obviously this isn't going to happen for everyone, but it did just happen for us. And that's why you buy houses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620037)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:49 PM
Author: Alcoholic hominid step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620140)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:26 PM
Author: Arousing filthy love of her life partner

sweet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620229)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: sapphire nursing home doctorate

I think you meant SWeet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47622398)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:30 PM
Author: scarlet potus

I rent out three of my former primary residences. Extremely good financial move (in my case at least).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619715)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:34 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

Owning real property and participating in the game of Amerikkka is flat out highway robbery.

Taxes + Interest + HOA + Insurance + cost of upkeep on my house is about $45k

Insurance on the cars is now up to $3k (and I ostensibly own them) + another $1k in various fees for maintenance, registration, inspection

That’s $4,000 gone each month just for the right to “own” property in America

Utilities + food + transport costs like fuel, etc doesn’t come close to $4k

Childcare comes close

If I sold everything and just moved to Asia I could live on so much less

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619735)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:35 PM
Author: scarlet potus

What you're supposed to do is model all of these expenses in advance and only purchase a home you can comfortably afford.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619738)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:39 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

I can kind of pay my bills

Insurance is a complete runaway freight train right now. 4 years ago insurance for 2 cars was like $1200/yr. Maybe as little as $1,000. Now 3x.

My first homeowners policy was like $1800, now $6000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619744)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:36 PM
Author: scarlet potus

I have you beat on childcare. I'm at over $100k / year. (100% cannot afford it -- unlike my house)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619740)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:42 PM
Author: Razzle aqua office

It's true, you should never sellcuck. If you need a bigger house, just remodel the old one, or keep it and rent it out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619752)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:44 PM
Author: brindle weed whacker

I’ve come to accept that there is no rational option in the US, everything is set up to ensure your Ruin, especially if you are a Loser. I wish I was born in France and could just live on the dole and waste away at some cafe. That would be 1000% better than trying to “maek it” in the US just so you don’t have to live in a neighborhood where you’ll be raped and killed by URMs. The US is honestly the dumbest place in the world and a terrible mistake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619761)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:46 PM
Author: vivacious metal pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619769)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:46 PM
Author: Chrome marvelous police squad queen of the night

Just raise a family in an apartment complex full of government mandated low income residents bro

Just have your lease not get renewed at the top of the market so you are forced to move bro

Just have your rent go up 10%+ per year bro

Just never be allowed to have pets bro

Just be forced to live with the shittiest appliances in existence and never able to renovate or change anything forever bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619767)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:01 PM
Author: slimy medicated round eye shrine

this. homeownership is retarded, but not as retarded as renting forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619822)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:26 PM
Author: Excitant lay trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619904)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:07 PM
Author: wonderful new version

here in Brussels, I can't wait to return to my homeland and buy a plat in rural PA and play my music as loud as I like without any neighbors around to complain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619835)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:12 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

Ligonier Valley?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619853)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:14 PM
Author: wonderful new version

yessir, 6 acres to build my falling water house near Linn Run State Park

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619864)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

Wow. 180.

I’d like to live over there too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619874)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:18 PM
Author: wonderful new version

let's make it happen- Frank Lloyd Wright inspired Americana

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619878)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:19 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

I’d just prefer a simple ranch style house with a basement and a wood burning stove and a flat spot outside for a garden.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619881)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:20 PM
Author: wonderful new version

ranch style house-- u should build in Arizona

https://franklloydwright.org/taliesin-west/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619885)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:24 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

I don’t want some artsy fartsy house. I want a house with a porch and a rocker and my shotgun by my side. Maybe a glass of iced tea.

No dogs. No cats. Just me and the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619899)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:25 PM
Author: wonderful new version

if u can dream it, it can happen-- only in America

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619900)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:28 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

My dream is to just go back in time and be an offshore roughneck or whatever. Live in a van.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619912)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:29 PM
Author: wonderful new version

hey, Jack Kerouac

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619914)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 3:13 PM
Author: heady ebony clown

your dream is for your children to never have been born? you seem like a really really great guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47621931)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:18 PM
Author: High-end motley point turdskin

Ok but will buying a house get me in house in the first place? Have sent out hundreds of apps (I’m a litigator) but no bites so far. Houses around here run about 1.5-2 million to start but it could be a good investment to finally get out of big law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619879)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:20 PM
Author: Exhilarant crystalline plaza ceo

if you bought a million dollar home 5 years ago it would be $1.5m today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619886)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:25 PM
Author: Glittery magenta hospital prole

Houses around here have crashed 20-30% in the last year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619902)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:04 PM
Author: Cyan talented stage

wow Houston, TX, must be a real shithole then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619997)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:47 PM
Author: internet-worthy self-centered stag film

If you put 1 million in wingstop stock you’d have 4 million today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619940)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:33 PM
Author: brindle weed whacker

I bought in very late 2021 at what was near peak of the market. 3.25% rate. I already have 100k in added “equity” according to estimates. If I didn’t buy this house I would still be renting in NYC for like 4000k per month. I don’t know if there was ever a good option for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619919)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:48 PM
Author: Burgundy pistol

People railing against home ownership are fucking idiots who:

(i) Are too dumb to ever account for the fact that a home is not just an investment, its consumption. So in your calculations, you have to back out what you would have paid for rent

(ii) Don't realize that a home is an amazing tool against inflation, which is why myself and many others have benefited BIGLY.

I put in about $50,000 on my house in 2019, I've saved about $70,000 in rent over those years vs my mortgage, and if I sold my house I'd net $320,000.

So all in I basically made like a 7,000% return in 5 years?

The math is obviously different with current prices and interest rates (renting vs buying is more attractive for sure), but there's still a lot of risk in renting...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620139)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:52 PM
Author: Talking Gas Station

(Prole who bought house with 50k down payment)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620155)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:55 PM
Author: Burgundy pistol

Rates were 3% why put more down?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620160)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:32 PM
Author: comical dun haunted graveyard

The house isn't the problem. It's the wife who wants you to work super hard so she can pay other men to do little projects at your house in perpetuity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620250)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 1:22 PM
Author: slap-happy chad

Pro tip: in that case, you're the problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47621548)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 1:45 PM
Author: comical dun haunted graveyard

"we need to pay $8,000 to convert a small part of our unfinished basement into a costco pantry."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47621654)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 3:28 PM
Author: heady ebony clown

I paid $6000 this week to have landscaping and plumbing work done. all of it except for taking out a tree I probably could have done myself if I had more time and energy and wasn't a retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47622009)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:40 PM
Author: sable mediation corn cake

These retards also don’t look at taxes. You get an exemption for $500K in capital gains, which equates to $1MM of earned income. You should move anytime you can do this obviously (subject to being able to purchase a decent home for an acceptable price).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620296)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:55 PM
Author: Mint dysfunction

My interest rate is under 3%. Money for free.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620330)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 10:42 AM
Author: shimmering cerebral cruise ship wrinkle

"owning a house only makes sense if you want to live in that house"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47621078)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: slap-happy chad

Absolutely devastating for housemos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47621553)