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Rep Def Client Sue Scheff: Will Teh Truth Hit Teh Fan?

I wonder if this news (whaev it is) could end up stinging re...
Effete silver parlour
I wonder if it's the same as this http://www.isaccorp.org...
Impertinent confused church
Nope. Different
Copper Metal Gunner Sex Offender
Can someone give a short summary of what this is about?
Painfully honest transparent stage messiness
This is about as short as it gets
Copper Metal Gunner Sex Offender
and this is as funny as it gets http://www.encyclopediadr...
Filthy coral faggot firefighter parlor
reputation defender sure looks like its got thier work cut o...
Filthy coral faggot firefighter parlor
itll get ugly when details of the lawsuit against Scheff lea...
Sepia Arousing Gaping Half-breed
yup... http://www.reason.com/news/show/122156.html Tou...
blathering school cafeteria
LOL, wow good foresight. You had this story pegged long ago.
Floppy Shivering Coldplay Fan Fortuitous Meteor
titcr...this Sue Scheff woman sounds like a real fraud ht...
Disgusting Mexican Alpha

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Date: July 9th, 2007 6:00 PM
Author: Effete silver parlour

I wonder if this news (whaev it is) could end up stinging reputation defender, too...


Keep an eye on this forum for some lovely news to be announced in the very near future. Guaranteed to please.

I think I know what Deb is referring to. I wouldn't be too concerned about Sue and Izzy. I predict they will be out of business by Christmas (i know stuff... not sayin yet). There will be a lot of fireworks in the months to come on this issue....Hee hee. If this is what i think it is, they are both fucked.


Date: July 9th, 2007 7:59 PM
Author: Impertinent confused church

I wonder if it's the same as this




Date: July 9th, 2007 9:39 PM
Author: Copper Metal Gunner Sex Offender
Subject: Nope. Different

The thing that is being referred to (two things actually) haven't been released publicly. One of them will be released in the very near future. The other will be released in a few months.


Date: July 9th, 2007 9:48 PM
Author: Painfully honest transparent stage messiness

Can someone give a short summary of what this is about?


Date: July 10th, 2007 10:01 PM
Author: Copper Metal Gunner Sex Offender
Subject: This is about as short as it gets



Date: August 9th, 2007 1:15 PM
Author: Filthy coral faggot firefighter parlor

and this is as funny as it gets



Date: August 12th, 2007 12:34 PM
Author: Filthy coral faggot firefighter parlor

reputation defender sure looks like its got thier work cut out for them



Date: August 13th, 2007 5:55 PM
Author: Sepia Arousing Gaping Half-breed

itll get ugly when details of the lawsuit against Scheff leak out



Date: August 27th, 2007 11:59 AM
Author: blathering school cafeteria



Tough Love and Free Speech

How a 'child advocate' gamed the media

Maia Szalavitz | August 24, 2007

Sue Scheff has some serious chutzpah. Portrayed by ABC News, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal and Forbes as a beleaguered mom running a small business to help parents find treatment for troubled teens, Scheff's been telling reporters about a service called Reputation Defender, which she says allowed her to triumph over a bunch of rage-filled Internet cranks. Scheff says these vengeance-seeking wackos nearly destroyed her, an innocent businesswoman, with a series of libelous comments posted on online discussion boards. They had called her a âfraudâ and âcon artist,â she says, and claimed that she was referring teens to tough love programs that then abused them.

What none of this media coverage mentions is that a few years back, Scheff was sued for the same types of comments now directed at herâhighlighting the abuses of a "tough love" rehab center (in this case, one of Scheff's rivals). At the time, she framed the suit against her as an attempt to squelch her free speech.

The major news organizations also mention an $11 million libel judgment Scheff boasts about winning against one of her critics, a woman named Carey Bock. But none of these accounts actually looked into the details of that judgment. Bockâs home had been destroyed by Hurricane Katrina during the course of the legal action. Due to her address change, and the stress and depression brought on by the storm, she wasn't even present at her own trial, nor was she represented by counsel.

Bock's current lawyer, Tom McGowan, says he's seeking to have the judgment set aside, because Bock never received notice of the trial date. âThey get pretty wacky on these sites, but itâs an outrage whatâs going on,â says McGowan. If Bock had actually made it to court, the outcome may well have been quite different.

While all of this may seem like an installment of "News of the Weird," it has serious implications for free speech on the Internetâand highlights how the media often fails to get the whole story.

The saga begins in 2000, when Scheff sent her own daughter to a program affiliated with the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASP, sometimes called WWASPS). Scheff was initially a booster of WWASP, and even referred other parents to its programs. For a referral, WWASP paid $1000 per child, or offered a monthâs free treatment for the referrer's child. WWASP clients spend at least 18 months in treatment, at $3000-$5000 per month.

At some point, Sue Scheff became aware of online bulletin boards where teens who had been in WWASP programs were telling horrific stories of sexual, physical, and emotional abuse. Users also posted media accounts detailing how nine WWASP-affiliated programs were closed following police investigations, regulatory infractions and/or allegations of child abuse.

Scheff later wrote on her website that she had become uncomfortable with some of the organization's methods. She removed her daughter from the program, and began posting her own allegations against WWASP on online forums, under several different names. She also set up her own consultant business, called Parents Universal Resource Experts (PURE), and began taking referral payments for placing teens, just as WWASP does.

While this sort of practice isn't illegal, it's widely considered unethical. Conflicts of interest arise when consultants get higher referral fees from some programs than they get from others. The temptation arises to place kids in the programs that pay more, even though these may not be the programs best suited to a particular child. Once you're being regularly paid by a program, itâs hard to be objective about its quality. This is why codes of ethics in psychology and psychiatry typically bar such "dual relationships."

Under the Lanham Act, which bans business competitors from making false and inflammatory claims about rivals, WWASP sued Scheff over her critical online posts. Because the court was able to substantiate Scheffâs claims with vivid testimony from victims, WWASP lost.

Soon, however, the online boards buzzed again with yet more reports of abuse at new programs, and this time they included programs where Sue Scheff was referring children. It was around this time that Scheff launched her own lawsuit against Bock. Scheff had helped Bock remove her two sons from a WWASP program, but Bock eventually become outraged by what she considered to be Scheffâs unethical referrals. The $11 million judgment resulted only after Bock didn't show up in court to defend herself.

(Note: The original version of this article stated that the judgment against Bock was "default." Technically, this is incorrect. There was a trial and verdict. But Bock wasn't present, nor did she have counsel present to represent her.)

Meanwhile, child welfare investigators substantiated charges of abuse in 2005 at the Whitmore Academy in Utah, a program to which Scheff made referrals. Regulators shut the program down. Just last month, another complaint was filed against Scheff and another program where she places teens, the Focal Point Academy in Nevada. In that filing, a Florida couple alleges that Scheff failed to disclose that she was being paid by Focal Point, nor did she tell them that the business was licensed only as a foster home, not for residential treatment. The complaint describes these failures to disclose as âfraudulent misrepresentationsâ and âkickbacks.â

The complaint also details how the coupleâs teenage son, R.G., was sexually abused by other boys at the program, who âwould hold R.G. down in order to take out their penises, which they would rub on his face, while they threatened and beat him.â He was also allegedly repeatedly threatened with anal rapeâand the complaint charges that he was beaten after reporting the bullies to school authorities, who neither reported the sexual abuse to the state as legally required, or made efforts to stop it.

Eventually, Scheff hired Reputation Defender to rehabilitate her image online. Reputation Defender sells itself as a service that removes reputation-damaging posts on the Internet, or at least attempts to make them less prominent on search engines. Scheff and Reputation Defender appear to have contacted the Internet service providers for the site that hosts the most popular discussion boards for victims of tough love programs, a site called fornits.com. According to fornits founder Ginger McNulty, two different service providers recently removed fornits.com from their servers after complaints. Both ISPs refused to divulge the source of the complaints. But the timing is awfully suggestive.

(Disclosure: McNulty did some paid web design work for my book Help at Any Cost.)

The Electronic Frontier Foundationâa premier defender of free speech on the netâwas quoted in Forbes as supportive of Reputation Defender. But its spokesperson, staff attorney Kevin Bankston, said that the group was described to him as using positive articles to defend against negative ones, not suppressing speech. âTo the extent that Reputation Defender is using baseless legal threats to get speech critical of its clients taken taken downâthat is something weâd have serious problems with,â he said.

Fornits is a mostly unmoderated forum, and, as a result, can sometimes include obscene, angry, and off-color rants and slurs. But it's also one of the best sources parents and journalists have for finding out about abuse in residential teen tough-love programs, often straight from the mouths of abused teens and their parents.

Before the Internet existed, thousands of teens who felt they had been harmed by tough love had few ways of complaining, or finding out if others had endured similar experiences. Without places like fornits, they can't be heard, in part because journalists have few other ways to find them.

âItâs unfortunate that nuts and angry people have chosen to attack Sue Scheff in obscene terms,â says attorney Phil Elberg, who represented fornits when it was sued along with Bock by Scheff (the fornits case was dropped). Elberg's one of the few lawyers to have won multimillion dollar judgments against tough love programs. He adds, âThis has allowed the focus to shift away from the tactics that Scheff has used and the fact that she describes herself on the net as a child advocate and a critic of the industry, when in reality, she symbolizes so much of what is wrong with it.â

Also unfortunate is the reporting by ABC News investigative reporter Martin Bashir on the new show, I-Caught, as well as coverage in the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal and Forbes. All told only half the story. Both McNulty and McGowan say they tried to contact these reporters to set the record straight, but were ignored.

The whole sordid story reveals the flaws in both unmoderated online media and in what passes these days for journalism. One way Reputation Defender has managed to move positive stories about Scheff up the ranks on Google is by posting ânews storiesâ she has written on citizen journalism sites like NowPublic. But the mainstream media is not supposed to be as easy to game.

They could start correcting the record by reporting on Reputation Defenderâs attempts at censorship and obfuscation, instead of cheering on efforts to silence websites that, for all their flaws, have a history of exposing real incidents of child abuse.

Maia Szalavitz is author of Help At Any Cost: How the Troubled-Teen Industry Cons Parents and Hurts Kids (Riverhead, 2006) and a senior fellow at stats.org. Her latest book, co-written with Dr. Bruce D. Perry is The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog and Other Stories from a Child Psychiatrist's Notebook. (Basic Books, 2007).


Date: August 27th, 2007 12:09 PM
Author: Floppy Shivering Coldplay Fan Fortuitous Meteor

LOL, wow good foresight. You had this story pegged long ago.


Date: August 28th, 2007 2:21 PM
Author: Disgusting Mexican Alpha

titcr...this Sue Scheff woman sounds like a real fraud