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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Unholy Swashbuckling Digit Ratio
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Unholy Swashbuckling Digit Ratio

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
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just walk outside bro

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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:08 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:38 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: May 13th, 2026 7:20 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: May 19th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: May 21st, 2026 5:25 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: May 25th, 2026 6:16 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: May 26th, 2026 8:51 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: May 28th, 2026 5:55 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: June 3rd, 2026 5:16 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: July 7th, 2026 11:56 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: July 8th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: July 9th, 2026 10:50 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: July 12th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:04 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: mildly autistic idiot fanboi

Nigga WTF do you know about this? Why are you so fucking obsessed with whites?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#49995563)


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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set

cumskins dont make trillions of threads about asians though for sure

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Date: July 13th, 2026 5:50 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: July 19th, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: internet-worthy adventurous set



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Date: August 4th, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: August 5th, 2026 5:46 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: August 10th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: grizzly bateful gaping

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48969854)


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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: awkward toaster

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48969860)


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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: grizzly bateful gaping

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48969863)


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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: awkward toaster

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48969954)


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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: grizzly bateful gaping

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48971066)


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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: histrionic pisswyrm

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#49065184)


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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Overrated umber church



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Charcoal Adulterous New Version Step-uncle's House



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring windowlicker area

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: iridescent elite laser beams

cq

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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Silver motley parlour really tough guy

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48985033)


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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: histrionic pisswyrm

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM
Author: Hairless Newt



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: amethyst gaped business firm

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48997602)


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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: demanding center

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Pink hilarious philosopher-king

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#49105022)


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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Violent lascivious dysfunction scourge upon the earth

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#49421865)


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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: opaque headpube

it was a nanny state.

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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Violent lascivious dysfunction scourge upon the earth

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#49495273)


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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM
Author: Pink hilarious philosopher-king

actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts

foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#49518563)


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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: aggressive costumed coldplay fan station

13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails

you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids

https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html

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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: aggressive costumed coldplay fan station

"Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#49838410)