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Question about European feudalism.

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underhanded vigorous boltzmann locus
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just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: underhanded vigorous boltzmann locus

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
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just walk outside bro

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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:08 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:38 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: May 13th, 2026 7:20 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: May 19th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: May 21st, 2026 5:25 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: May 25th, 2026 6:16 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: May 26th, 2026 8:51 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: May 28th, 2026 5:55 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: June 3rd, 2026 5:16 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: July 7th, 2026 11:56 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: July 8th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: July 9th, 2026 10:50 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: July 12th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:04 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: federal mischievous striped hyena coldplay fan

Nigga WTF do you know about this? Why are you so fucking obsessed with whites?

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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead

cumskins dont make trillions of threads about asians though for sure

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Date: July 13th, 2026 5:50 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: July 19th, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: August 4th, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: August 5th, 2026 5:46 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: August 10th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Bistre half-breed stead



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Date: August 12th, 2026 11:22 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: August 18th, 2026 7:48 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: cracking stag film mexican

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: cerebral fuchsia brunch

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: cracking stag film mexican

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: cerebral fuchsia brunch

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: cracking stag film mexican

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Amethyst greedy stain puppy

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Swashbuckling lodge antidepressant drug



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Lavender aromatic rehab incel



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Thirsty Iridescent Locale Background Story

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Low-t Dashing Becky

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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: heady soggy pit

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Amethyst greedy stain puppy

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM
Author: titillating aqua dopamine round eye



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: razzmatazz domesticated national security agency circlehead

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: ruby idiot

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: supple institution telephone

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: peach stage sneaky criminal

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: Duck-like plaza

it was a nanny state.

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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: peach stage sneaky criminal

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM
Author: supple institution telephone

actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts

foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots

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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: Razzle Angry Trump Supporter

13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails

you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids

https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html

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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: Razzle Angry Trump Supporter

"Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time."

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