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Question about European feudalism.

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Lime Titillating Mother University
  06/14/13
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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it was a nanny state.
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actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts four...
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13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per y...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Lime Titillating Mother University

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
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just walk outside bro

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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:08 PM
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:38 PM
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Date: May 28th, 2026 5:55 PM
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Date: July 12th, 2026 8:27 PM
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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:04 PM
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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: dark marvelous brunch goal in life

Nigga WTF do you know about this? Why are you so fucking obsessed with whites?

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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: appetizing location elastic band

cumskins dont make trillions of threads about asians though for sure

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Date: July 19th, 2026 9:36 PM
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Date: August 18th, 2026 7:48 PM
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Date: August 23rd, 2026 9:31 PM
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: violet hissy fit

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Wonderful know-it-all tanning salon

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: violet hissy fit

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Wonderful know-it-all tanning salon

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: violet hissy fit

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: erotic preventive strike abode

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Racy public bath faggotry



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Swollen Amber Resort Foreskin

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: impressive space laser beams

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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: sepia arousing cruise ship

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: erotic preventive strike abode

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM
Author: Pearly beady-eyed locus



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: black wagecucks

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: yellow kitchen

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Fragrant persian plaza

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: contagious milky bbw brethren

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: learning disabled vigorous church building cuckoldry

it was a nanny state.

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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: contagious milky bbw brethren

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM
Author: Fragrant persian plaza

actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts

foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots

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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: fishy parlor toilet seat

13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails

you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids

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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: fishy parlor toilet seat

"Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time."

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Date: August 23rd, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

The feudal sentiment par excellence is the sentiment of the value and dignity of the individual man. The feudal man lived as a free man; he was master in his own house; he sought his end in himself; he was (and this is a scholastic expression) propter seipsum existens: all feudal obligations were founded upon respect for personality and the given word.

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