like satan is just satan he's not a guy you have to derange and slander and molest and infuriate with your wickedness to show that he's a prime evil(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5874958&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#49944060)