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just fired up a TNG episode. libs?

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violent market messiness
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Lascivious shaky hissy fit
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why is troi a lieutenant commander? they made some foid a se...
violent market messiness
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“I love women”
appetizing resort
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this appears to be the actual rationale for it tbqh
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appetizing resort
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She's an empath with highly desirable telepathy skills. She ...
Lascivious shaky hissy fit
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great big tits Tp
appetizing resort
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briefing your CFO (Chief Foid Officer) so that she can tell ...
violent market messiness
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Unhg great big perky emotions
Lascivious shaky hissy fit
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appetizing resort
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Bitch! She graduated from Starfleet Academy and commissioned...
nudist diverse digit ratio
  08/26/26
just did it again
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Faith Ordway?s golden retriever tp
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this is very bad news for libs imo
Lascivious shaky hissy fit
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cr lol just lol at them
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appetizing resort
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Supple knife church
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appetizing resort
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Recently re-watched Seasons 2 - 7. It gets bad in season 7, ...
silver native
  08/26/26
not many clunkers in there i agree
Supple knife church
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Season 7 is good. Season 1 was a bit weird because they hadn...
violent market messiness
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Season 7 had a few good episodes, but no great ones (well, m...
maize base
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Libs HATE the idea of a post-scarcity society where racism a...
nudist diverse digit ratio
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yes? you mean the legendary show that was created by libs an...
Floppy honey-headed stage sound barrier
  08/26/26
In rewatching it all recently it was fairly stark. Primarily...
silver native
  08/26/26
That one is pretty funny. It's ham-handedly supposed to be a...
violent market messiness
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Oh yeah I agree. It is just so stark to see how the libs use...
silver native
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"no jews." They're called Ferengi
nudist diverse digit ratio
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Nimoy ranting about Roddenberry being a crazed antisemite is...
Red depressive
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violent market messiness
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LMAO I did not realize he actually was.
silver native
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violent market messiness
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One thing I noticed on my rewatch is that there are basicall...
silver native
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https://imgur.com/a/zq8z4AM
Razzmatazz degenerate
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Lmao 180
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azure gunner
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Floppy honey-headed stage sound barrier
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Supple knife church
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TNG is shitlibbery in space. If you want to piss libs off, f...
Purple hairraiser state
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Is DS9 really worth it? I am on the fence because I fucking ...
silver native
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DS9 is the GOAT POTUS Star Trek series. Sisko is the conserv...
Purple hairraiser state
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Sisko is what Archer could only dream of becoming. Sisko...
nudist diverse digit ratio
  08/27/26
Thanks, nigga. Will give it a go.
silver native
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appetizing resort
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Even DS9 has plenty of shitlibbery. It's very good too thoug...
violent market messiness
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the more you watch the show the more ridiculous of a charact...
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180
Red depressive
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violent market messiness
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the frequency of running "diagnostics" is pretty a...
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz1c1xdoUFc
Supple knife church
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Supple knife church
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Yet, I don't think we ever saw a single order for a level 2 ...
maize base
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@grok, when did tng use a diagnostic other than level one ...
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Date: August 23rd, 2026 10:51 PM
Author: violent market messiness



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 11:10 PM
Author: Lascivious shaky hissy fit



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 11:12 PM
Author: violent market messiness

why is troi a lieutenant commander? they made some foid a senior officer because she's hot and has big tits with no technical capabilities?

is this ever explained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50088325)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 11:14 PM
Author: appetizing resort

“I love women”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50088326)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: violent market messiness

this appears to be the actual rationale for it tbqh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50088331)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: appetizing resort



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 11:15 PM
Author: Lascivious shaky hissy fit

She's an empath with highly desirable telepathy skills. She needs to be briefed on all major ship decisions so she can insert her great big tits into crucial meetings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50088327)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 11:19 PM
Author: appetizing resort

great big tits Tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50088335)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 11:23 PM
Author: violent market messiness

briefing your CFO (Chief Foid Officer) so that she can tell you about her emotions surrounding the situation tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50088339)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 11:25 PM
Author: Lascivious shaky hissy fit

Unhg great big perky emotions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50088341)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 11:48 PM
Author: appetizing resort



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Date: August 26th, 2026 11:48 AM
Author: nudist diverse digit ratio

Bitch! She graduated from Starfleet Academy and commissioned as an Officer.

The regular military makes all their medical officers go through the school and be commissioned as regular officers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094171)



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Date: August 25th, 2026 10:58 PM
Author: violent market messiness

just did it again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50093395)



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Date: September 3rd, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Faith Ordway?s golden retriever tp



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Date: August 25th, 2026 10:58 PM
Author: Lascivious shaky hissy fit

this is very bad news for libs imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50093396)



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Date: August 25th, 2026 11:04 PM
Author: violent market messiness

cr lol just lol at them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50093406)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 1:18 AM
Author: appetizing resort



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Date: August 26th, 2026 11:39 AM
Author: Supple knife church



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Date: August 26th, 2026 2:02 PM
Author: appetizing resort



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Date: August 26th, 2026 11:40 AM
Author: silver native

Recently re-watched Seasons 2 - 7. It gets bad in season 7, but 2 - 5 is basically non-stop great episodes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094154)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 11:41 AM
Author: Supple knife church

not many clunkers in there i agree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094156)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 12:21 PM
Author: violent market messiness

Season 7 is good. Season 1 was a bit weird because they hadn't found their footing yet, but it still had some independently great episodes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094236)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 4:49 PM
Author: maize base

Season 7 had a few good episodes, but no great ones (well, maybe the finale, which was strong). I used to think s1 was the worst, but now I wonder if it's actually better than 7. It was a hot mess, but had some campy energy. In, the final stretch of TNG, starting maybe with the last leg of s6, many episodes just got tedious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094898)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 11:49 AM
Author: nudist diverse digit ratio

Libs HATE the idea of a post-scarcity society where racism and poverty have been eliminated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094174)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 11:50 AM
Author: Floppy honey-headed stage sound barrier

yes? you mean the legendary show that was created by libs and has an unapologetically liberal setting, worldview, commentary, etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094181)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 12:14 PM
Author: silver native

In rewatching it all recently it was fairly stark. Primarily because the lib worldview that created it is basically just Jeb Bush Republicanism. I think we'd all be fine going back to libs being like this.

There's a whole episode where some bitch from a "genderless" planet falls in love with Riker. Turns out the planet she's from literally forces genderless ideology on its people and lobotomizes anyone who goes against it. LMAO.

Meanwhile all the regular TNG characters speak about gender and sex as being totally connected, the natural sex differences that exist, why women like men and vice versa, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094223)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 12:16 PM
Author: violent market messiness

That one is pretty funny. It's ham-handedly supposed to be about homosexuality and how it's No Different from heterosexuality

Uh yeah except it is you faggot libs. Men fucking each other in their poop holes and being unable to have children is not the same thing as natural, evolution-derived heterosexuality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094227)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 12:23 PM
Author: silver native

Oh yeah I agree. It is just so stark to see how the libs used such an analogy back then. Even libs then understood the idea that "gender fluidity" was so retarded that it could only exist as a fake idea on a fake alien world.

I will also note that there aren't any fags on the show. Literally no fags and no jews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094240)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 1:14 PM
Author: nudist diverse digit ratio

"no jews."

They're called Ferengi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094369)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 2:27 PM
Author: Red depressive

Nimoy ranting about Roddenberry being a crazed antisemite is 180



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094665)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 2:36 PM
Author: violent market messiness



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Date: August 26th, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: silver native

LMAO I did not realize he actually was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094783)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 9:57 PM
Author: violent market messiness



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Date: August 26th, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: silver native

One thing I noticed on my rewatch is that there are basically no jews at all. Unless you count the ferengi.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094187)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 3:33 PM
Author: Razzmatazz degenerate

https://imgur.com/a/zq8z4AM

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Date: August 26th, 2026 3:44 PM
Author: violent market messiness

Lmao 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094804)



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Date: September 2nd, 2026 9:42 AM
Author: azure gunner



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Date: August 26th, 2026 3:55 PM
Author: Floppy honey-headed stage sound barrier



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Date: August 26th, 2026 4:13 PM
Author: Supple knife church



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Date: August 26th, 2026 5:21 PM
Author: Purple hairraiser state

TNG is shitlibbery in space. If you want to piss libs off, fire up DS9 or TOS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094962)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: silver native

Is DS9 really worth it? I am on the fence because I fucking cannot stand Ferengi characters and just do not know if I can deal with the blacktain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50094969)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 6:55 PM
Author: Purple hairraiser state

DS9 is the GOAT POTUS Star Trek series. Sisko is the conservahero commander/captain we deserve. Plus DS9 (mostly) makes the ferengi pcs instead of npcs. You won’t regret watching it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50095114)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 10:55 AM
Author: nudist diverse digit ratio

Sisko is what Archer could only dream of becoming.

Sisko was the "Bush Doctrine" before 9/11 was a thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50096520)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 11:35 AM
Author: silver native

Thanks, nigga. Will give it a go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50096621)



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Date: August 29th, 2026 3:45 PM
Author: appetizing resort



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Date: August 26th, 2026 6:57 PM
Author: violent market messiness

Even DS9 has plenty of shitlibbery. It's very good too though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50095116)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 5:22 PM
Author: violent market messiness

the more you watch the show the more ridiculous of a character troi is

she's barely a character and almost always serves as a prop or plot device or is just there to have her tits on the screen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50109409)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Red depressive

180

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Date: September 1st, 2026 7:29 PM
Author: violent market messiness



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Date: September 1st, 2026 11:47 PM
Author: violent market messiness

the frequency of running "diagnostics" is pretty absurd too

it's just constant. like there's gotta be an average of 6-7 "diagnostics" run every episode lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5896475&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50110224)



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Date: September 2nd, 2026 1:36 AM
Author: Supple knife church

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz1c1xdoUFc

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Date: September 2nd, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: violent market messiness



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Date: September 2nd, 2026 11:58 PM
Author: Supple knife church



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Date: September 2nd, 2026 5:26 AM
Author: maize base

Yet, I don't think we ever saw a single order for a level 2 diagnostic. Always level 1. Is that the most intensive level, or the least?

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Date: September 2nd, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: Purple hairraiser state

@grok, when did tng use a diagnostic other than level one

TNG mentioned a Level 1 diagnostic far more often than any other number. Lower numbers are more thorough (and slower/more disruptive); higher numbers are quicker and more automated. The TNG Technical Manual defines five levels, and the show used 2–5 on occasion.

Level 2

• “Tin Man”

• “Remember Me” — Geordi has the computer run a Level 2 on the warp drive systems (“Antimatter containment positive. Warp drive within normal parameters.”)

• “A Fistful of Datas” — Level 2 on the computer / information-retrieval systems

• “Aquiel” — Level 2 on the comm buffers at Relay Station 47

Level 3

This is the next-most-common after Level 1.

• “The Nth Degree” — Geordi uses a Level 3 diagnostic as a pretext while talking to the newly super-intelligent Barclay; later asks for Barclay’s help with one

• “Schisms”

• “Cause and Effect” — they decide to run a Level 3 on all systems after seeing the repeating “3” on the monitors

• “Aquiel”

• “The Chase”

• “Phantasms”

• Star Trek Generations — Lt. Farrell asks to run a Level 3 on the port plasma relays

Level 4

• “Relics” — Scotty reconfigured the Jenolan transporter into a Level 4 diagnostic cycle so his pattern could sit in the buffer for 75 years

• “Cost of Living” — a Level 4 missed faults in the replicators’ orientation terminals

• “Genesis” — Barclay wants a Level 4 on the torpedo guidance / phase discriminator (it would require shutting down auxiliary power to 19 decks)

Level 5

• “Half a Life”

• “The Mind’s Eye” — “Perform a level-5 diagnostic”

Other non-numbered diagnostics

• “Power Play” — O’Brien puts the transporters into diagnostic mode that will take hours

• “Cause and Effect” — Crusher runs an optical diagnostic on Geordi’s VISOR

• Data occasionally runs a self-diagnostic (e.g., “Schisms”, “A Fistful of Datas”)

Level 1 still dominates because it is the “take it offline and physically check it” option writers reached for when something important (especially transporters or the computer) was acting up. The other levels appear when they needed a faster check or a specific plot beat.

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