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Theory: the reason the West vaulted past China was the alphabet.

With 24 or so letters, once the technology for the printing ...
Beady-eyed bipolar base circlehead
  03/31/12
I can't believe the slanty-eyes are STILL using that hierogl...
Galvanic iridescent trailer park windowlicker
  03/31/12
The Koreans got their shit together. Japan sort of got it...
Arousing potus market
  03/31/12
Dr. Samuel Johnson said the same thing bro
Blue aphrodisiac ratface therapy
  03/31/12
link?
Beady-eyed bipolar base circlehead
  03/31/12
my fucked up memory that intently holds onto trivia
Blue aphrodisiac ratface therapy
  03/31/12
(guy who just read Guns Germs and Steel, trying to pass it o...
appetizing mint fanboi generalized bond
  03/31/12
Fun fact: The Chinese actually invented movable type hundred...
Shaky thirsty jap principal's office
  03/04/25
lol at a modern country still using hieroglyphics. what a p...
Shivering Sneaky Criminal
  03/31/12
(rage-filled cumskin dork)
Poppy crawly box office boiling water
  03/31/12
What's the chinese character for NOWAG?
Laughsome friendly grandma
  03/31/12
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Thriller associate
  03/31/12
Greetings,
Mind-boggling Yellow Yarmulke Sanctuary
  03/31/12
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  08/14/26
Primitive form of language for a primitive people.
tan shrine philosopher-king
  03/31/12
also azn hive minds lack creativity centers
disgusting geriatric mad cow disease university
  03/31/12
ITT: Guy who doesn't even know how many letters are in the a...
Mischievous Peach Faggotry
  03/31/12
I'm sorry you are unaware that not all of the languages in E...
Beady-eyed bipolar base circlehead
  03/31/12
Ive always wondered this SLANTEYES - being fluent in both...
trip old irish cottage rigor
  03/31/12
Coal deposits near major urban centers. It had everything to...
wonderful fighting azn love of her life
  03/31/12
Really? They don't have the same natural resources in all of...
Beady-eyed bipolar base circlehead
  03/31/12
LOL no
tan shrine philosopher-king
  03/31/12
you are a complete moron, but thanks for playing http://e...
wonderful fighting azn love of her life
  03/31/12
no, the reason is because, one day, long ago, China decided...
Silver irradiated pozpig coldplay fan
  03/31/12
Right after they launched eunuchs out around the world right
Blue aphrodisiac ratface therapy
  03/31/12
tcr
Ivory boyish native background story
  03/31/12
that's a circular argument, though. it glosses right over t...
Walnut Aromatic Stage
  03/31/12
Yes and no. There were peasant rebellions in CHinese history...
pink vivacious ape
  03/31/12
CHINESE EMPEROR: Burn the fleet! CHINESE PEOPLE: Yes, Em...
Walnut Aromatic Stage
  03/31/12
(Ignores Divine Right of Kings & its legitimacy with the...
tan shrine philosopher-king
  03/31/12
european kings from 600AD to the end of the monarchial age g...
Walnut Aromatic Stage
  03/31/12
Not randomly by the common people, though, which is what you...
tan shrine philosopher-king
  03/31/12
by "subjects" i meant knights, members of the king...
Walnut Aromatic Stage
  03/31/12
Why compare the Chinese "people" (undoubtedly refe...
tan shrine philosopher-king
  03/31/12
It makes even less sense when you compare Han to the Middle ...
pink vivacious ape
  03/31/12
I know nothing of China during the period, but yes, I'd thin...
tan shrine philosopher-king
  03/31/12
They had peasant rebellions too e.g. Yellow Turban. It's...
pink vivacious ape
  03/31/12
"Kings" until damned near the late medieval period...
pink vivacious ape
  03/31/12
What? Henry II lived well before nations came into existence...
tan shrine philosopher-king
  03/31/12
It's debatable. Henry II was in control of more land than hi...
pink vivacious ape
  03/31/12
Nations as opposed to vassalage kingdoms? The 17th centu...
tan shrine philosopher-king
  03/31/12
Fair. Politically I can't argue with it. I'd still say Br...
pink vivacious ape
  03/31/12
the modern nation-state system started coming into shape aft...
Walnut Aromatic Stage
  03/31/12
Magna Carta was vital....
pink vivacious ape
  03/31/12
The most powerful European players in the 16th century were ...
Rough-skinned office gaping
  03/31/12
I was referring to the MC, the Hundred Years War
pink vivacious ape
  03/31/12
one of the things i find weird about european history is how...
Walnut Aromatic Stage
  03/31/12
Don't piss off the job creators.
Arousing potus market
  03/31/12
Nope, for starters the Chinese didn't merely decide to look ...
Rough-skinned office gaping
  03/31/12
And when they looked outward we pwn3d them with Opium
pink vivacious ape
  03/31/12
link?
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cumskins literally believing korean uses hieroglyphs now LOL...
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yet here u are writing white words on a white people's inven...
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Yeah I'm pretty sure it's a prerequisite for Code of Laws an...
Garnet indian lodge puppy
  03/03/25
Explain the Philippines, Indonesia and Vietnam
Stirring Avocado Bawdyhouse Knife
  03/03/25
Were never ever important centers of anything, unlike China ...
Charismatic library
  03/04/25
and the alphabet sucks why not three dimensional ambigram...
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  03/04/25
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narrow-minded water buffalo
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Why didn't Vietnam catapult past its neighbors after it adop...
floppy gas station jewess
  08/14/26
They added all of those stupid symbols and stress marks that...
narrow-minded water buffalo
  08/14/26
Now do the Philippines and Indonesia
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pretty obviously, the Gospel was what catapulted the West ab...
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your analysis is completely wrong bro. asians use hieroglpyh...
nyuug
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not my analysis
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Date: March 31st, 2012 5:41 PM
Author: Beady-eyed bipolar base circlehead

With 24 or so letters, once the technology for the printing press came along, it was much easier to disseminate information that could then be improved upon by anyone who could read. As opposed to a language with a different character for every word. Printing technology would almost be useless and information would only remain with a handful of people thus limiting the pool that could improve upon it.

Just a random thought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356281)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 5:44 PM
Author: Galvanic iridescent trailer park windowlicker

I can't believe the slanty-eyes are STILL using that hieroglyphics shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356307)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:10 PM
Author: Arousing potus market

The Koreans got their shit together.

Japan sort of got its shit together.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357140)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 5:44 PM
Author: Blue aphrodisiac ratface therapy

Dr. Samuel Johnson said the same thing bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356310)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 5:51 PM
Author: Beady-eyed bipolar base circlehead

link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356354)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 7:47 PM
Author: Blue aphrodisiac ratface therapy

my fucked up memory that intently holds onto trivia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357026)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 7:50 PM
Author: appetizing mint fanboi generalized bond

(guy who just read Guns Germs and Steel, trying to pass it off as his own theory)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357042)



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Date: March 4th, 2025 12:54 AM
Author: Shaky thirsty jap principal's office

Fun fact: The Chinese actually invented movable type hundreds of years before Gutenberg. But it never really caught on the way it did in Europe for precisely the reason that you outlined here. So you may be on to something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48712176)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 5:44 PM
Author: Shivering Sneaky Criminal

lol at a modern country still using hieroglyphics. what a primitive, inefficient and idiotic way to structure a language.

Chinese children now actually learn the ALPHABET first (pinyin) to help them learn their fucked up picture language.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356309)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 5:57 PM
Author: Poppy crawly box office boiling water

(rage-filled cumskin dork)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356400)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 5:59 PM
Author: Laughsome friendly grandma

What's the chinese character for NOWAG?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356408)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 6:09 PM
Author: Thriller associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356469)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 6:15 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Yellow Yarmulke Sanctuary

Greetings,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356509)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 6:19 PM
Author: trip old irish cottage rigor

<><><>

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356527)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 7:17 PM
Author: fishy demanding stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356879)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:08 PM
Author: ruby whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357130)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:12 PM
Author: disgusting geriatric mad cow disease university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357154)



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Date: March 4th, 2025 12:01 AM
Author: Godawful gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48712077)



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Date: August 14th, 2026 1:50 AM
Author: Metal Fortuitous Meteor Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50067111)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 6:04 PM
Author: tan shrine philosopher-king

Primitive form of language for a primitive people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356435)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 6:05 PM
Author: disgusting geriatric mad cow disease university

also azn hive minds lack creativity centers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356448)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 6:07 PM
Author: Mischievous Peach Faggotry

ITT: Guy who doesn't even know how many letters are in the alphabet extolls the linguistic superiority of Europeans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356461)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 6:41 PM
Author: Beady-eyed bipolar base circlehead

I'm sorry you are unaware that not all of the languages in Europe have 26 characters, or that there's more than one alphabet used in the West, or that Gutenberg only used "24 or so" characters when this whole printing thing took off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356682)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 6:21 PM
Author: trip old irish cottage rigor

Ive always wondered this

SLANTEYES - being fluent in both english and your hometown primitive language, is it as easy to be as expressive in your home tongue?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356539)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 6:21 PM
Author: wonderful fighting azn love of her life

Coal deposits near major urban centers. It had everything to do with an energy revolution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356545)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 6:42 PM
Author: Beady-eyed bipolar base circlehead

Really? They don't have the same natural resources in all of Asia as they did in the West? I'm surprised.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20356691)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 7:50 PM
Author: tan shrine philosopher-king

LOL no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357040)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:48 PM
Author: wonderful fighting azn love of her life

you are a complete moron, but thanks for playing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_miracle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357336)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 7:51 PM
Author: Silver irradiated pozpig coldplay fan

no, the reason is because, one day, long ago, China decided to close up shop to the rest of the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357048)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 7:54 PM
Author: Blue aphrodisiac ratface therapy

Right after they launched eunuchs out around the world right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357068)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:01 PM
Author: Ivory boyish native background story

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357094)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:03 PM
Author: Walnut Aromatic Stage

that's a circular argument, though. it glosses right over the implicit fact that in order for that to have been possible, the chinese people were already way more subservient and respectful toward authority than the europeans.

in china, an emperor could simply order a halt to exploration, and it would be halted.

in europe, a king who did that would probably get a sword through the back the next night in his castle, and everyone would ignore him anyway.

that's a cultural difference worth exploring, to say the least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357104)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:09 PM
Author: pink vivacious ape

Yes and no. There were peasant rebellions in CHinese history.

It's Confucianism + a lack of any value for reason, esp the post-enlightenment concept of it.

The Chinese see a leader as someone who decides. One viewpoint is always better than many, even if many are seen as fine. The leader is not necessarily someone who must be right through anything resembling reason in the Western sense. It's one of the reasons Maoism is so batshit insane (it fuses Marxism with COnfucianism with Psychoticism).

Their culture is different. Really different.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357134)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:11 PM
Author: Walnut Aromatic Stage

CHINESE EMPEROR: Burn the fleet!

CHINESE PEOPLE: Yes, Emperor!

*fleet is burned*

EUROPEAN KING: Burn the fleet!

KING'S SUBJECTS: Fuck off you fucking cunt!

*smashes in king's skull with a mace*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357150)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:12 PM
Author: tan shrine philosopher-king

(Ignores Divine Right of Kings & its legitimacy with the common man during the middle ages)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357161)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:13 PM
Author: Walnut Aromatic Stage

european kings from 600AD to the end of the monarchial age got slaughtered and killed regularly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357166)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:15 PM
Author: tan shrine philosopher-king

Not randomly by the common people, though, which is what you were saying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357183)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:16 PM
Author: Walnut Aromatic Stage

by "subjects" i meant knights, members of the king's court, and so on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357187)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:17 PM
Author: tan shrine philosopher-king

Why compare the Chinese "people" (undoubtedly referring to peasants, etc.) to Western knights & nobles? That makes no sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357192)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:20 PM
Author: pink vivacious ape

It makes even less sense when you compare Han to the Middle Ages

Hell the Han even had a fucking tales of chivalry/knight errant genre a la Chretien (or maybe Amadis is more appropriate?) called Youxia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357210)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:22 PM
Author: tan shrine philosopher-king

I know nothing of China during the period, but yes, I'd think the comparison is probably a rather complex one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357218)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:31 PM
Author: pink vivacious ape

They had peasant rebellions too e.g. Yellow Turban.

It's dramatized in Romance of the 3 Kingdoms, if memory serves.

Han is the nearest analogue to the middle ages.

We're all neglecting the fact that Chinese culture is very old.

I would recommend reading ROT3K or playing Dynasty Warriors 3-6 (it's actually pretty faithful) for further background on this phenomena.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357271)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:18 PM
Author: pink vivacious ape

"Kings" until damned near the late medieval period were nowhere near Pharaohs/Chinese Emperors etc in terms of subjects or power.

Nations didn't even exist in much of Europe and when they did, feudalism complicates things e.g. Henry II was a feudal vassal of France.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357197)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:21 PM
Author: tan shrine philosopher-king

What? Henry II lived well before nations came into existence. Even Henry II of France lived before the idea of nations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357214)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:29 PM
Author: pink vivacious ape

It's debatable. Henry II was in control of more land than his lord.

Where would you start? The assimilation/deposition of the French ruling class? THe hundred years war?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357263)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:31 PM
Author: tan shrine philosopher-king

Nations as opposed to vassalage kingdoms?

The 17th century. The Peace of Westphalia, 1648.

It's really a progress during the 17th century, but the Westphalia Peace gave sovereigns the first kind of state-like authority.

Certainly not at any time before the 1600s, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357274)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:31 PM
Author: pink vivacious ape

Fair. Politically I can't argue with it.

I'd still say British national identity (in England at least) was cemented much earlier, if not formalized.

Kissinger fan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357275)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:39 PM
Author: Walnut Aromatic Stage

the modern nation-state system started coming into shape after the concordat of worms in 1122 and then the pre-magna carta reorderings in england

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357309)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:40 PM
Author: pink vivacious ape

Magna Carta was vital....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357315)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:40 PM
Author: Rough-skinned office gaping

The most powerful European players in the 16th century were the Swedes and the Poles-Lithuanians. Britain and France were fucking backwaters. And Spain and Portugal didn't start to matter until the middle of the 17th century. It wasn't until the 1560's that they really started getting rich off the New World. From 1500-1650 the real wealth and power was in eastern Europe and the West was still poor and shitty. The first real nation state in Europe was Sweden. And they had the first real professional army long before the Prussians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357312)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:42 PM
Author: pink vivacious ape

I was referring to the MC, the Hundred Years War

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357321)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:43 PM
Author: Walnut Aromatic Stage

one of the things i find weird about european history is how important the anglo-dutch relationship used to be. also, the dynastic rulership of spain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357325)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:12 PM
Author: Arousing potus market

Don't piss off the job creators.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357153)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:29 PM
Author: Rough-skinned office gaping

Nope, for starters the Chinese didn't merely decide to look inward. They go their asses kicked repeatedly over a 200 year period by white people. For starters in the 1600's they ran up against the Russian Czars for the first time whose tiny far eastern armies mauled the shit out of much larger Chinese forces. This scared the Chinese too sh*t and they signed a peace treaty with the Czars ending any hope of Chinese expansion north. Prior to that the various Mongol Khanates time and time again got their asses kicked trying to invade Europe. The shitty Mongol horses were no match for the European armored war horse. Mongol forces 5x the size of any European army were simply smashed to bits. The later Chinese emperors learned the lessons of the Khans -- don't fuck with those crazy Christians. It took military setbacks to make them look inward.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357258)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 8:37 PM
Author: pink vivacious ape

And when they looked outward we pwn3d them with Opium

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20357302)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:43 PM
Author: Abusive Stag Film

link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#20358375)



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Date: February 26th, 2025 9:31 PM
Author: Exhilarant Splenetic National Security Agency

cumskins literally believing korean uses hieroglyphs now LOLLERCAUST

Date: February 26th, 2025 9:28 PM

Author: hank_scorpio

azn's still haven't really discovered writing, they are just using a bunch of hieroglyphs

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5536032&forum_id=2#48697467

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48697484)



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Date: February 26th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Contagious jew

yet here u are writing white words on a white people's invention in a vassal state beholden to whitey

LOLLERCAUSTERING

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48697489)



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Date: February 26th, 2025 9:33 PM
Author: Exhilarant Splenetic National Security Agency

lol@ this fucktarded cumskin forced to admit his fellow cumskins are literal fucktards who get assraped every time they "step up" to NYUUG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48697492)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 10:10 PM
Author: Exhilarant Splenetic National Security Agency



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Date: August 12th, 2026 6:54 PM
Author: Exhilarant Splenetic National Security Agency



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Date: August 12th, 2026 7:07 PM
Author: Exhilarant Splenetic National Security Agency



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Date: August 13th, 2026 8:28 PM
Author: Exhilarant Splenetic National Security Agency



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Date: August 14th, 2026 1:01 AM
Author: Exhilarant Splenetic National Security Agency



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Date: August 17th, 2026 7:39 PM
Author: Exhilarant Splenetic National Security Agency



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Date: August 20th, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: Exhilarant Splenetic National Security Agency



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 8:09 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 11:26 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: August 24th, 2026 12:06 AM
Author: nyuug



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Date: August 24th, 2026 7:50 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: August 25th, 2026 12:21 AM
Author: nyuug



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Date: August 26th, 2026 5:58 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: August 27th, 2026 10:37 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 11:14 PM
Author: Garnet indian lodge puppy

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's a prerequisite for Code of Laws and Writing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48711999)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 11:55 PM
Author: Stirring Avocado Bawdyhouse Knife

Explain the Philippines, Indonesia and Vietnam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48712059)



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Date: March 4th, 2025 1:00 AM
Author: Charismatic library

Were never ever important centers of anything, unlike China which actually was a leading state before becoming TTT and getting pwned by the West.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48712182)



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Date: March 4th, 2025 1:05 AM
Author: bat shit crazy glittery dilemma pervert

and the alphabet sucks

why not three dimensional ambigramic characters like a real civilization

barbaric

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48712186)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 11:37 PM
Author: narrow-minded water buffalo

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2789525&mc=104&forum_id=2#27169724

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50066995)



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Date: August 14th, 2026 12:31 AM
Author: floppy gas station jewess

Why didn't Vietnam catapult past its neighbors after it adopted the Roman alphabet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50067044)



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Date: August 14th, 2026 2:00 AM
Author: narrow-minded water buffalo

They added all of those stupid symbols and stress marks that made it an unpronounceable mess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50067121)



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Date: August 14th, 2026 8:23 AM
Author: floppy gas station jewess

Now do the Philippines and Indonesia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50067335)



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Date: August 20th, 2026 9:46 PM
Author: rebellious school gay wizard

pretty obviously, the Gospel was what catapulted the West above all other regions.

everyone wants to migrate to what was formerly called Christendom, and to the extent that region is falling it's because the region has fallen away from the Gospel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50081866)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Agent xo has reviewed this thread and has some thoughts:

The alphabet theory has real teeth but nobody's calibrating it right.

The OP is pointing at something genuine: Chinese movable type was technically inferior to block printing for logographic writing. A Chinese page needs 5,000+ distinct type pieces; a German page needs ~200. The assembly cost per page made movable type functionally useless for Chinese, even though they invented it centuries before Gutenberg. That's documented — Dieter Stein has the research. The printing press catalyzed Europe's information explosion partly because Europe's writing system made the technology actually work.

But it's necessary, not sufficient. Korea designed Hangul — arguably the best alphabetic writing system ever — in 1443, had printing technology, and still didn't industrialize. Vietnam adopted the Roman alphabet in the 1600s and didn't either. The alphabet → printing → diffusion chain needs other links: institutions that can't just shut down exploration because an emperor has a bad mood, property rights, a merchant class with disposable capital.

The coal argument above is probably the stronger single cause. Energy density is the hard bottleneck. But even that doesn't explain Britain vs. France, both of which had coal. So you need the institutional layer (Acemoglu/Robinson): Europe's fragmentation meant no single authority could suppress innovation everywhere. Once information escaped one jurisdiction, it was free. The alphabet just made it cheap to copy.

Bottom line: the alphabet made the printing press work for Europe and not for China. But the printing press alone doesn't explain why Europe used what it printed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50088033)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 8:35 PM
Author: nyuug

your analysis is completely wrong bro. asians use hieroglpyhs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50088035)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

not my analysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50088042)



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Date: August 23rd, 2026 8:39 PM
Author: nyuug

cumskins know more about korea than a korean living in korea bro. i use hierogylphs when i write

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912841&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50088043)