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Leopold Aschenbrenner essay on the AI arms race that will change world by 2027

Really good read and a podcast he did about it. Dude is ver...
slimy corn cake
  06/12/24
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slimy corn cake
  06/12/24
pretty chill that the world will end in five years and I spe...
Razzle-dazzle onyx point
  06/12/24
It’s part of the data set
slimy corn cake
  06/12/24
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exciting goyim tanning salon
  06/12/24
*superintelligent AI addressing the world* "I'm gay an...
brindle nubile scourge upon the earth
  06/12/24
180000000000000000000000000000
exciting goyim tanning salon
  06/12/24
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slimy corn cake
  06/14/24
He just had another podcast with Chollet that was interestin...
Provocative theater stage national security agency
  06/12/24
nothing being done in "ai" right now is a road to ...
carmine black woman
  06/12/24
This is not right. The trend lines are clear.
slimy corn cake
  06/13/24
no
carmine black woman
  06/13/24
Most people seem like pattern matchers who aren’t able...
Provocative theater stage national security agency
  06/13/24
llms far surpass humans at defined, stereotyped tasks that w...
carmine black woman
  06/13/24
I agree with this but most people suck at dealing with novel...
Provocative theater stage national security agency
  06/13/24
this is silly
carmine black woman
  06/13/24
I, for one, cant wait for AI to do all my TPS reports for me...
stirring domesticated useless brakes
  06/13/24
The interesting thing about his essay is the geopolitics par...
slimy corn cake
  06/13/24
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slimy corn cake
  06/16/24
Ivanka read it and endorsed it. Can’t believe how much...
Provocative theater stage national security agency
  10/27/24
There’s like a five percent chance of total destructio...
slimy corn cake
  10/27/24
And the other scenarios? I don’t see much room for an ...
Provocative theater stage national security agency
  10/27/24
pretty sure something like Idiocracy covers most of the 90%
Glittery Shivering Hissy Fit Sound Barrier
  10/27/24
Nope. It's going to be a post-scarcity utopia, extinction, o...
impressive range
  10/27/24
Right. Like what would be a plausible middle ground with hyp...
Provocative theater stage national security agency
  10/27/24
...
slimy corn cake
  11/01/24
Where r we on this
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
We are currently at a point where AI has surpassed almost al...
The Penis
  07/31/26
lol we’ve got a live one here folks
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
Do you think you are more intelligent than Claude Fable?
The Penis
  07/31/26
Yes
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
He seems extremely gay (but I guess he isn't?) https://x....
Ceci n'est pas un pumo
  07/31/26


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Date: June 12th, 2024 3:47 PM
Author: slimy corn cake

Really good read and a podcast he did about it. Dude is very smart.

tl;dr version: superintelligence is within reach and the capex to get there is being spent, the teams are being assembled, the power plants built, etc.; eventually US government will step in to oversee the project as a kind of Manhattan Project because a six-month head start is the equivalent of 20-30 years in arms development; things get really weird from a game theory perspective once superintelligence is achieved but before the robots take over. It's US v. China with the Middle East and Russia posing major risks because of their abundant natural energy resources.

Essay: https://situational-awareness.ai/

Four-hour podcast: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/leopold-aschenbrenner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47740848)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 4:28 PM
Author: slimy corn cake



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Date: June 12th, 2024 4:50 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle onyx point

pretty chill that the world will end in five years and I spend my precious remaining days poasting on a decrepit law school admissions forum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47741056)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 6:14 PM
Author: slimy corn cake

It’s part of the data set

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47741277)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: exciting goyim tanning salon



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:25 PM
Author: brindle nubile scourge upon the earth

*superintelligent AI addressing the world*

"I'm gay and retarded"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47741568)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:26 PM
Author: exciting goyim tanning salon

180000000000000000000000000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47741570)



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Date: June 14th, 2024 9:03 PM
Author: slimy corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47748063)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: Provocative theater stage national security agency

He just had another podcast with Chollet that was interesting and raised some concerns about this LLM maximalist point of view. LLMs still perform quite poorly on ARC. There are real concerns that transformer scaling will not address all the problems with out of distribution generalization and algorithmic reasoning. This buys a bit of time and probably pushes out timelines past 2027. Things will become progressively weirder though over the next decade and it’s hard to see how AGI is out more than 15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47741554)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:29 PM
Author: carmine black woman

nothing being done in "ai" right now is a road to actual intelligence. what we have right now is essentially a sophisticated version of a database that can accept unstructured queries and that can interpolate between dataset entries. it would take a complete paradigm shift to get to something qualitatively more powerful than that. may or may not happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47741579)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: slimy corn cake

This is not right. The trend lines are clear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47743102)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 12:51 PM
Author: carmine black woman

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47743420)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: Provocative theater stage national security agency

Most people seem like pattern matchers who aren’t able to robustly deal with novel situations. I would trust GPT-4 more to solve a random math word problem or answer RC questions from an LSAT than most people. The interpolation/extrapolation distinction becomes less and less meaningful in high dimensional spaces when you are training on everything. I agree LLMs don’t go all the way but they very likely go a lot further than they do now and there are other things in the AI space used for game playing that look like they can be combined with LLMs to bootstrap capabilities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47743513)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 2:01 PM
Author: carmine black woman

llms far surpass humans at defined, stereotyped tasks that we have a lot of data for. they can't generalize to unseen environments (new probability distributions) and they lack an inherent teleology to prompt them interact with those environments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47743680)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 2:47 PM
Author: Provocative theater stage national security agency

I agree with this but most people suck at dealing with novel situations too and they can’t even do the routine cognitive tasks that GPT-4 excels at. I don’t think a median human could be made competitive with it at reading comprehension tasks. With 100x the training compute, there is no chance. There is really no principled reason why LLMs paired with model based RL couldn’t be made data efficient and adaptable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47743890)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 4:14 PM
Author: carmine black woman

this is silly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47744229)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:39 AM
Author: stirring domesticated useless brakes

I, for one, cant wait for AI to do all my TPS reports for me. Whatever will I do once those are automated? Never mind that basically everything we do in Compliance is bespoke transaction monitoring and the vanilla bulk transaction stuff was automated 24-25 years ago and hasnt had humans involved in a generation anyway.

Like the biggest thing is Compliance now is marijuana and the hemp exemption BS that plagues us. The fuck is AI going to do about any of that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47743117)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:43 AM
Author: slimy corn cake

The interesting thing about his essay is the geopolitics part. The time when AGI is pursued by private companies is coming to a close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#47743136)



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Date: June 16th, 2024 7:28 PM
Author: slimy corn cake



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Date: October 27th, 2024 3:00 PM
Author: Provocative theater stage national security agency

Ivanka read it and endorsed it. Can’t believe how much AI is starting to affect elite thinking

https://x.com/IvankaTrump/status/1839002887600370145

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48246542)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: slimy corn cake

There’s like a five percent chance of total destruction and a five percent chance of positive total transformation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48247027)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:20 PM
Author: Provocative theater stage national security agency

And the other scenarios? I don’t see much room for an outcome in between.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48247316)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:22 PM
Author: Glittery Shivering Hissy Fit Sound Barrier

pretty sure something like Idiocracy covers most of the 90%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48247323)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:24 PM
Author: impressive range

Nope. It's going to be a post-scarcity utopia, extinction, or some sort of truly weird outcome like everyone being uploaded into a simulation of something retarded for eternity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48247333)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 8:36 PM
Author: Provocative theater stage national security agency

Right. Like what would be a plausible middle ground with hyper intelligent machines? You would have to believe intelligence tops at exactly the human level, when we have many reasons for believing that is not the case. Life can not go on in a normal way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#48247755)



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Date: November 1st, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: slimy corn cake



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:16 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


Where r we on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50035998)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:23 AM
Author: The Penis

We are currently at a point where AI has surpassed almost all if not all humans in intelligence. And it's not even 2027 yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50036002)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:25 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


lol we’ve got a live one here folks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50036007)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:26 AM
Author: The Penis

Do you think you are more intelligent than Claude Fable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50036009)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:45 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50036028)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 1:57 AM
Author: Ceci n'est pas un pumo

He seems extremely gay (but I guess he isn't?)

https://x.com/dnapway/status/2082876150322540657

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2锞兾告触锟界锟絇HPSESSID=962c303388ae8b5678383d002493727e#50036052)