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Date: February 11th, 2022 10:34 AM Author: Irate pungent location
This poster is in Norwegian. The title is "Liberators."
"Cultural Terror. America will save European culture from ruin. What right do they have?"
It appears that it was painted by a Norwegian collaborator during the German occupation of Norway. He was later sentenced to two years of hard labor for his Nazi sympathies.
Hitler's propaganda machine tied America to the word "soulless" to describe American culture.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43950020) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 12:16 PM Author: Irate pungent location
The Nazis were split on whether Norwegians were racially pure enough to be part of the Reich. Some within the Party considered them "mystery meat". It was debatable whether they would ever attain full Reich citizenship, but it was convenient for Hitler to collaborate with Quisling during the war. No telling how he would have handled them afterwards.
As for his views on USA, he was mostly critical of their lack of central planning. He thought USA deserved the Great Depression and that FDR had lucked into getting out of it by virtue of stumbling into WWII. Hitler wasn't completely critical of capitalism, because, he fundamentally hated Communism more than anything.
He was mostly critical that the STATE didn't owe its people prosperity by controlling every aspect of society and making top down decisions for everyone. His political views in today's context would very much align with the Chinese Communist Party. He loved big government control and racially based nationalism, planned economies but loosely based on pure capitalism but with total state intervention.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43950760) |
Date: February 11th, 2022 12:14 PM Author: Lascivious business firm
Hitler thought it was a good idea to fight the Soviet Union and the United States simultaneously. Partly because he completely wrote off the US's massive industrial capacity. I guess viewing every single issue through a racial lens leads to analytical mistakes.
Maybe open war with the US was inevitable, but Hitler could've at least made it harder for FDR to convince the US public to fight Germany.
Hitler seems objectively retarded to me so I can't take his views on anything seriously.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43950743) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 1:46 PM Author: Irate pungent location
Lend-Lease was devastating for Hitler.
But really he fucked up by invading the Soviet Union altogether. His country was too small, USSR was too far away, terrain too treacherous, weather too bad. He was never going to beat them. And Stalin seemed pretty content not to attack. Hitler just got a big head about him because Poland, France, and Norway fell so quickly. He thought he couldn't lose. Invading USSR was one wrong move incredibly dumb on every level. Should never have happened, but, tldr, that guy was not thinking clearly and was not the genius this bort makes him out to be.
Also he believed in all sorts of kooky theories that turned out to not be true, like the idea that whoever control central Asia would become powerful enough to rule the whole world. This was a weird conspiracy theory floating around at the time. Turned out to have 0 impact on the world.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43951304) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 2:13 PM Author: Judgmental native milk
As Courtois stresses, many American and European scholars have upheld a morally peculiar view of history that fervently condemns National Socialist Germany while maintaining a meretriciously non-judgmental “objectivity” toward Soviet Russia. But there is no hierarchy of death and suffering. As Courtois writes: “The death of a Ukrainian peasant child, deliberately exposed to starvation by the Stalinist regime, is just as important as the starvation of a child in the Warsaw Ghetto.”
As Strauss relates, Courtois finds that 1) some 100 million human beings lost their lives as a result of Communist policies in the Soviet Union, Red China and other Communist states 2) The Communists made mass criminality an integral part of their governmental system; 3) Terror was part of the Soviet regime from the outset, beginning with Lenin; 4) Class and ethnic genocide, begun by Lenin and systematized by Stalin, preceded Hitler’s dictatorship by years; 5) Stalin was unquestionably a greater criminal than Hitler; and 6) Stalin’s joint, if not primary, responsibility for the outbreak of Russo-German War is undeniable.[5]
It is often forgotten that the Russian people were the first victims of Communism. Citing evidence from British, Russian and other sources, Strauss shows that those who imposed Communist despotism on the Russians were primarily non-Russian and non-Christian aliens – above all, Jews.[6] Their goal was nothing short of eradicating Christianity and European civilization, at whatever the human cost. Many Russians place the primary responsibility for the crimes of Communism, particularly in the first ten years of Soviet rule, on the Bolshevik party’s non-Russian elements. For example, Strauss notes, the Russian press has referred to the execution of Tsar Nicholas II and his entire family as a “Jewish ritualistic murder.”[7] In a similar context, Strauss cites from Solzhenitsyn the names of the ruthless Soviet secret police (NKVD) chiefs – all of them Jews – who put tens of thousands of slave laborers to death under appallingly inhumane conditions in building the White Sea Canal.
I can see why you avoid this
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43951490) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 4:33 PM Author: federal point
Historical American TP is a blue pilled guy who likes to LARP as an edgy racist on XO to impress his Internet friends.
Never forget he’s the guy who claimed Unitarians were a much bigger problem than the Jews.
To his credit, he is beginning to open his eyes, but he has a long way left to go. You can see clear evidence of his strong brainwashing ITT. He’s literally unable to conceive of the fact that Stalin always planned on invading Germany in order to extend Russia’s borders all the way through Germany and further his cause of global Communism. In addition to your links here’s a good primary source:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebreaker_(Suvorov)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43952279) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 4:44 PM Author: Irate pungent location
"The book was enthusiastically accepted by a fraction of a German society that hoped to reintroduce Hitler as a legitimate part of the patriotic historical discourse.
...but Western scholars have criticized his conclusions for lack of evidence and documentation."
You really got me Stormfront pumo. It's all one giant (((conspiracy))). You're 100% right, I'm not a dyed in the wool Neo Nazi. Sucks to suck, I guess?
Must mean I'm Jewish, right? I'm LARPing as an edgy racist to impress my XO friends but deep down I'm a Jew for believing in a broadly held Western narrative of history. Wow you're so cutting edge. I wish I could be as cool as you and bend over and kiss the Blutfahne with a Reichsadler stuffed in my ass. I'll never be as cool as you and I guess you've proven I'm a Jew. L'chaim!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43952357) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 4:50 PM Author: federal point
You are so fucking stupid that you don’t understand the exact same dynamic behind “Doctors broadly agree the Covid vaccines are safe and effective” is behind “Western historians agree that [insert Jewish lies or revisionism].”
To protect your ego you simply denounce anyone who presents the truth as “Stormfront.” It’s a juvenile way of thinking to be frank and explains why up until 6 months ago you were adamant that Unitarians pose a much bigger threat than Jews.
There are plenty of primary source documents released from Russia’s archives that prove Stalin was going to attack Germany. War was inevitable. No need to rely on “historians” when the primary source documents alone are sufficiently clear. You manage to have no clue what you are talking about while also being 100% confident you are correct, both byproducts of your juvenile way of thinking and processing information
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43952406) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 1:27 PM Author: Lascivious business firm
Hitler did not know of the Pearl Harbor plan beforehand. When informed in his headquarters on the evening of Dec. 7 of the strike and the damage suffered by US forces, he was “delighted,” according to British historian Ian Kershaw.
“We can’t lose the war at all. We now have an ally which has never been conquered in 3,000 years,” a jubilant Hitler said, as recounted in Mr. Kershaw’s authoritative biography of the German leader.
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Hitler seems more retarded to me the more I learn about him tbh
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43951151) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 1:37 PM Author: Irate pungent location
Cr and any historyfag would know this.
Dude was totally arrogant and beyond reasoning with, even by his top generals whom he relied on. Upon receiving the report from his generals that Russian tank capability was actually significant and under harsh winter conditions functionally superior to the German panzers, Hitler scoffed. He said, "LOL GET REKT THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN AND OURS ARE WAY BETTER LMFAO".
Millions of German soldiers would die on the Eastern front, many due to Russian tank capability.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43951229) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 2:16 PM Author: Irate pungent location
The lend lease act involved shipping materiel to Russia via the Middle East, specifically a route from Persia up into Russia. This was far too out of the way for Japan. Easy for US to sail across the Atlantic.
Germans would attack if they could but ocean too damn big to catch em all. Neither Germany nor Japan could defend the Indian Ocean. Wow my critics are very poorly educated.
Also the German Navy was incredibly weak and pathetic. They could barely hold on to the North Sea. Their entire capability were Uboots which were not nearly as effective as their romanticized depiction. They basically snuck around under the sea and popped up to hit a small target. They were not a real fighting force.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43951502) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 2:30 PM Author: Odious gaped crackhouse internal respiration
I like you, but...
Virtually every point in this paragraph is 100% wrong:
"Also the German Navy was incredibly weak and pathetic. They could barely hold on to the North Sea. Their entire capability were Uboots which were not nearly as effective as their romanticized depiction. They basically snuck around under the sea and popped up to hit a small target. They were not a real fighting force."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43951551) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 2:48 PM Author: Irate pungent location
? The efficacy of the Uboot is widely known to have been more of a psychological deterrent than a real fighting force. Prove me wrong.
Germany lost half (!) of its standing Navy in 1941. Britain ruled the North Sea and could get away with whatever they wanted. Yes there were Uboots lurking everywhere but what impact did they have? What battle did they win? None. And they obviously failed to prevent lend lease supplies from two major routes.
They failed to prevent D Day, the invasion of Sicily, etc. It was a joke dude.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43951610) |
Date: February 11th, 2022 10:37 PM Author: offensive stirring spot
If Germany won in the East, could they have won against the U.S. and Britain in the end?
Poasters think so, probably just be detering an invasion.
But recall a little development at Los Alamos, which is literally a complete game changer considering back then you could drop things like that on city centers.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5029523&forum_id=2#43954116) |
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