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Noticing cons getting a little mouthy today fresh of SCOTUS birthright ruling

When judge issues a new TRO in the class action case in a fe...
beta messiness parlor
  06/30/25
off, not of jfc did you not learn English grammar in your E...
Mint point dysfunction
  06/30/25
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beta messiness parlor
  06/30/25
Until Rach lets you edit OP’s this will be a recurring...
drunken galvanic queen of the night meetinghouse
  06/30/25
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harsh church building
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laughsome puce mother
  06/30/25
“Golden retriever, fresh of the grill!”
Drab corner potus
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laughsome puce mother
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Splenetic Stag Film
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brass psychic
  07/01/25
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cream nighttime mediation library
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Mint point dysfunction
  07/01/25
Agreed. The EO is blatantly illegal and there’s a clas...
drunken galvanic queen of the night meetinghouse
  06/30/25
So do they just go back to calling for district judge impeac...
beta messiness parlor
  06/30/25
Of course not. Cons will address the merits this time
Dull haunted graveyard parlour
  06/30/25
no we'll just keep deporting illegals you retarded jewish pe...
vengeful trailer park
  06/30/25
except Trump isn’t deporting more people than Biden or...
beta messiness parlor
  06/30/25
how is Trump being racist about it?
vengeful trailer park
  06/30/25
180 then we'll get the SC to weigh in on that
Khaki chapel
  06/30/25
(pegging mfe)
demanding nofapping spot alpha
  06/30/25
It's kind of funny that the birthright EO was like the WORST...
Violet apoplectic state sound barrier
  06/30/25
Thomas and Alito will still find some bs way to deviate from...
beta messiness parlor
  06/30/25
My big hope is that it opens the judicial overton window to ...
Violet apoplectic state sound barrier
  06/30/25
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Mint point dysfunction
  06/30/25
What legal argument do you think they'll make?
Dull haunted graveyard parlour
  06/30/25
Case is moot b/c they've all been renditioned to a salvadori...
Violet apoplectic state sound barrier
  06/30/25
Cons? https://x.com/newswire_us/status/194331241802258865...
beta messiness parlor
  07/10/25


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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: beta messiness parlor

When judge issues a new TRO in the class action case in a few days it will knock them back down a few pegs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060060)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Mint point dysfunction

off, not of

jfc did you not learn English grammar in your ESL classes in Chongqing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060063)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:16 AM
Author: beta messiness parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060067)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: drunken galvanic queen of the night meetinghouse

Until Rach lets you edit OP’s this will be a recurring problem. It’s on his list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060083)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:58 AM
Author: harsh church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060213)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: laughsome puce mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060664)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: Drab corner potus

“Golden retriever, fresh of the grill!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060091)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: laughsome puce mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060094)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Splenetic Stag Film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060673)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:27 AM
Author: brass psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062423)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:28 AM
Author: cream nighttime mediation library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062424)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 4:07 AM
Author: Mint point dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062442)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: drunken galvanic queen of the night meetinghouse

Agreed. The EO is blatantly illegal and there’s a class that can be sufficiently well-defined. This one isn’t too hard to get through that shitty scotus opinion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060092)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:28 AM
Author: beta messiness parlor

So do they just go back to calling for district judge impeachments or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060110)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Dull haunted graveyard parlour

Of course not. Cons will address the merits this time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060159)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: vengeful trailer park

no we'll just keep deporting illegals you retarded jewish pedophile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060518)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: beta messiness parlor

except Trump isn’t deporting more people than Biden or Obama, he’s just being racist about it when he does it. But THAT is what you voted for, not an increase in overall deportation numbers, so you should be happy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060713)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: vengeful trailer park

how is Trump being racist about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060931)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:47 AM
Author: Khaki chapel

180 then we'll get the SC to weigh in on that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060173)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:42 AM
Author: demanding nofapping spot alpha

(pegging mfe)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060157)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: Violet apoplectic state sound barrier

It's kind of funny that the birthright EO was like the WORST vehicle to get a good (administration-favoring) ruling on universal injunctions.

The problems with universal injunctions are:

(1) non-reciprocity (different plaintiffs can keep suing and losing, but if the US loses once, it's bound) -- the US lost every single one of these suits below;

(2) forum shopping, which compounds the problem of point #1 -- most of these suits were stuck being filed in border states;

(3) the availability of a nationally binding rule from scotus (obviating the need for a nationally binding injunction at the district court level) -- because the US always lost, it just didn't take up the case on appeal, so no scotus case law will ever get created if the US just knows that said case law will inevitably be bad (as would be the case with a policy that's flagrantly unconstitutional): this was literally true of the instant case, where the US lost on everything below, but elected to only seek cert on the nationwide-injunction question, and not the merits of the EO;

(4) the availability of at least Circuit-binding rules from the COAs -- SG showed up at OA and surprised everyone by saying for the first time "yeah we usually respect circuit court precedent within that circuit, but that's a discretionary policy and we don't always follow it" (obviously the guy has something specific in mind, because that's a real inconvenient time to soften this policy);

(5) "a single district judge overruling the potus" -- I think this (meaning the merits of the EO) turned out to be like a 17-0 vote of different district and circuit judges (20-0 if you count the scotus dissenters, who were not shy about expressing their thoughts on the merits).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060796)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: beta messiness parlor

Thomas and Alito will still find some bs way to deviate from their textualist/originalist schtick to rule in Trump’s favor, but yeah on the merits I expect Trump will lose 7-2 or 6-3 with Gorsuch possibly joining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060814)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: Violet apoplectic state sound barrier

My big hope is that it opens the judicial overton window to at least CONGRESS being able to narrow its own "jurisdiction thereof" (the 14th Am. term).

My understanding is that even that position was a minority view in the pre-2015 scholarship -- which, btw, can we all agree is the only scholarship that can be trusted on this shit, as any lib law professor writing on this issue in 2019 might as well be delivering a crying screed on MSNBC -- but it looks good af in comparison.

If scotus gives us that, at least senate dems will know that if they ever pull the trigger and eliminate the filibuster then they'll need to squeeze every last bit of hard work out of their housekeepers and nannies in the next 2 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060827)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:44 PM
Author: Mint point dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062241)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: Dull haunted graveyard parlour

What legal argument do you think they'll make?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060992)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:43 PM
Author: Violet apoplectic state sound barrier

Case is moot b/c they've all been renditioned to a salvadorian concentration camp by now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062238)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: beta messiness parlor

Cons?

https://x.com/newswire_us/status/1943312418022588657?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49089631)