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How come China has never produced a Kurosawa?

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Boyish lemon pit patrolman
  05/27/25
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Boyish lemon pit patrolman
  05/28/25
John Woo and Wong Kar-Wei have made some incredible movies
Saffron Area Mood
  05/28/25
hong kong is a separate film industry the real answer is ...
vibrant locale selfie
  05/28/25
are u a Chinese film mo? touch of sin looks 180, adding it t...
Boyish lemon pit patrolman
  05/28/25
I've shilled another film by this guy. https://www.youtub...
Walnut misanthropic lodge
  05/28/25
> got banned for gay shit my brother in christ, Chen K...
hairraiser nighttime institution trump supporter
  05/29/25
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Boyish lemon pit patrolman
  05/29/25
CR. Also, does Edward Yang count? Yi Yi and A Confucian Conf...
glassy den
  05/28/25
Yuge Stephen Chow fan here
Lake massive nibblets
  05/28/25
kung fu, god of cookery, shaolin soccer. yes, in that order.
concupiscible national hissy fit
  05/28/25
Love on Delivery and Look Out, Officer! were both Belushi le...
Lake massive nibblets
  05/28/25
林子聰 is awesome.
concupiscible national hissy fit
  05/28/25
he's also a gifted physical comedy actor but i think i'm tal...
Lake massive nibblets
  05/28/25
https://youtu.be/-FsAstiwLnc?si=l7BDUIf4mw92mTIh
Lake massive nibblets
  05/28/25
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Boyish lemon pit patrolman
  05/28/25
this is like asking why the balkans have never produced a ma...
irradiated really tough guy
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Boyish lemon pit patrolman
  05/28/25
China has some good filmmakers in the margins waiting to be ...
Lake massive nibblets
  05/28/25
I liked Beijing Bicycle which is kind of a callback to De Si...
Walnut misanthropic lodge
  05/28/25
kurosawa was wildly popular and pedestrian, think spielberg....
concupiscible national hissy fit
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Lake massive nibblets
  05/28/25
dont forget kung fu panda
marvelous state
  05/28/25
remember the Orbit Gum Girl? She acts in Chinese Films now f...
big emerald lettuce
  05/28/25
she is stupid pretty
Lake massive nibblets
  05/28/25
TBF, I watched 4-5 kurosawa films and thought almost all of ...
wonderful water buffalo
  05/28/25
What do you recommend in English for getting started?
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histrionic honey-headed cruise ship
  05/28/25
Zhang Yimou is more pedestrian, goofy and style over substan...
thriller brilliant library
  05/29/25
he made more nuanced, "quieter" movies before goin...
Walnut misanthropic lodge
  05/29/25
6th gen directors mostly were babies or not even born when k...
concupiscible national hissy fit
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frozen kitty cat
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eh he's no Goo Goo Muk Muk
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Date: May 27th, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: Boyish lemon pit patrolman



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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: Boyish lemon pit patrolman



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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Saffron Area Mood

John Woo and Wong Kar-Wei have made some incredible movies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48967129)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:56 AM
Author: vibrant locale selfie

hong kong is a separate film industry

the real answer is mainland directors like zhang yimou made some bangers but they all got banned for showing gay shit (farewell my concubine) or for showing embarrassing episodes from chinese history (a touch of sin, to live)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48967137)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: Boyish lemon pit patrolman

are u a Chinese film mo? touch of sin looks 180, adding it to the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48967147)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 1:57 PM
Author: Walnut misanthropic lodge

I've shilled another film by this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=333QeMq9kh4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968062)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:52 PM
Author: hairraiser nighttime institution trump supporter

> got banned for gay shit

my brother in christ, Chen Kaige (farewell my concubine) made that movie in 1994, and since then has won double digit domestic film awards



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48971118)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: Boyish lemon pit patrolman



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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: glassy den

CR. Also, does Edward Yang count? Yi Yi and A Confucian Confusion alone put him among the greats in any medium IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48967145)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Lake massive nibblets

Yuge Stephen Chow fan here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968109)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: concupiscible national hissy fit

kung fu, god of cookery, shaolin soccer. yes, in that order.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968248)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Lake massive nibblets

Love on Delivery and Look Out, Officer! were both Belushi level mass market comedies imo

Justice, My Foot! was also very good and the fat Cantonese thug phenotype guy he has across from him in many of these is a highly underrated comedic actor. afaik chow didn't direct these but as i understand it he had a good deal of creative control after he got more clout within the hk star system

God of Cookery was a little overrated seeming but i enjoy low budget Shaw Brothers fare and still had fun with it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968281)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:57 PM
Author: concupiscible national hissy fit

林子聰 is awesome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968311)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: Lake massive nibblets

he's also a gifted physical comedy actor but i think i'm talking about "Uncle Tat" (達叔), who had me in stitches 4/5 times he had a bit on screen

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS5zbR54eGNS8FXXEQrtP2Fk8A2BwmTwWEG5Q&usqp=CAU

the Cantonese Jack Black with only a tenth of JB's schtick-obnoxiousness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968386)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: Lake massive nibblets

https://youtu.be/-FsAstiwLnc?si=l7BDUIf4mw92mTIh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968684)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: Boyish lemon pit patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48967376)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: irradiated really tough guy

this is like asking why the balkans have never produced a massimo bottura

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48967398)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: Boyish lemon pit patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48967988)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: Lake massive nibblets

China has some good filmmakers in the margins waiting to be discovered by Western critics still. A lot of Mainland film from the 70s and 80s still hasn't been professionally translated into English

Generally the reasons CCP film endeavors failed are the same as to their Soviet counterparts: peevish MASSOLIT type bureaucrats holding the censorial rod, unsocialized peasant populations lacking taste for what's rareified in cinema, and a general lack of resources ponied up for anything beyond what's "high concept" enough to appeal to both party and people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968103)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: Walnut misanthropic lodge

I liked Beijing Bicycle which is kind of a callback to De Sica's Bicycle Thieves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpHgZgFBfJ0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968124)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: concupiscible national hissy fit

kurosawa was wildly popular and pedestrian, think spielberg. he was not critically acclaimed and while he brought japanese cinema international, it is the cinephile and cineaste set that really worships him. japanese at the time thought his films were immature, too western and flashy. it is funny to me that white liberals worship kurosawa now.

chinese cinema was closed off for many decades and unknown to the west. there are many great directors, more recently the fifth generation, zhang yimou and chen kaige being personal favorites. the fact that barely anyone knows these names tells me that you guys think chinese cinema is jackie chan in rush hour.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968179)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Lake massive nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968183)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: marvelous state

dont forget kung fu panda

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968244)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: big emerald lettuce

remember the Orbit Gum Girl? She acts in Chinese Films now for some reason:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Branch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968437)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 6:42 PM
Author: Lake massive nibblets

she is stupid pretty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968927)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: wonderful water buffalo

TBF, I watched 4-5 kurosawa films and thought almost all of them were awesome and 100x better than anything today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968687)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 6:33 PM
Author: Boyish lemon pit patrolman

What do you recommend in English for getting started?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968886)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 7:12 PM
Author: histrionic honey-headed cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48969001)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: thriller brilliant library

Zhang Yimou is more pedestrian, goofy and style over substance than Kurosawa

If you said Lou Ye or Peter Ho-Sun Chan you would sound more credible (ie, 6th gen directors)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48970650)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Walnut misanthropic lodge

he made more nuanced, "quieter" movies before going big budget Hollywood

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48970698)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: concupiscible national hissy fit

6th gen directors mostly were babies or not even born when kurosawa was making movies. peter chan is hk, thats where he started and was most successful. yes, he made some films in china.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48971162)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:48 AM
Author: frozen kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48970712)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: opaque dragon roommate

eh he's no Goo Goo Muk Muk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48971332)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 9:16 AM
Author: Boyish lemon pit patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48970172)