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Noticing cons getting a little mouthy today fresh of SCOTUS birthright ruling

When judge issues a new TRO in the class action case in a fe...
Histrionic location
  06/30/25
off, not of jfc did you not learn English grammar in your E...
bespoke alpha
  06/30/25
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Histrionic location
  06/30/25
Until Rach lets you edit OP’s this will be a recurring...
ruby toaster candlestick maker
  06/30/25
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Federal snowy business firm sandwich
  06/30/25
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yellow deer antler
  06/30/25
“Golden retriever, fresh of the grill!”
Territorial Autistic Boiling Water
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yellow deer antler
  06/30/25
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Soggy Bipolar Black Woman
  06/30/25
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Vigorous piazza
  07/01/25
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slate drunken garrison coffee pot
  07/01/25
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bespoke alpha
  07/01/25
Agreed. The EO is blatantly illegal and there’s a clas...
ruby toaster candlestick maker
  06/30/25
So do they just go back to calling for district judge impeac...
Histrionic location
  06/30/25
Of course not. Cons will address the merits this time
frozen water buffalo
  06/30/25
no we'll just keep deporting illegals you retarded jewish pe...
nudist fortuitous meteor
  06/30/25
except Trump isn’t deporting more people than Biden or...
Histrionic location
  06/30/25
how is Trump being racist about it?
nudist fortuitous meteor
  06/30/25
180 then we'll get the SC to weigh in on that
Talented orchid hall new version
  06/30/25
(pegging mfe)
trip locus
  06/30/25
It's kind of funny that the birthright EO was like the WORST...
geriatric travel guidebook public bath
  06/30/25
Thomas and Alito will still find some bs way to deviate from...
Histrionic location
  06/30/25
My big hope is that it opens the judicial overton window to ...
geriatric travel guidebook public bath
  06/30/25
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bespoke alpha
  06/30/25
What legal argument do you think they'll make?
frozen water buffalo
  06/30/25
Case is moot b/c they've all been renditioned to a salvadori...
geriatric travel guidebook public bath
  06/30/25
Cons? https://x.com/newswire_us/status/194331241802258865...
Histrionic location
  07/10/25


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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Histrionic location

When judge issues a new TRO in the class action case in a few days it will knock them back down a few pegs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060060)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: bespoke alpha

off, not of

jfc did you not learn English grammar in your ESL classes in Chongqing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060063)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:16 AM
Author: Histrionic location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060067)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: ruby toaster candlestick maker

Until Rach lets you edit OP’s this will be a recurring problem. It’s on his list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060083)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:58 AM
Author: Federal snowy business firm sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060213)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: yellow deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060664)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: Territorial Autistic Boiling Water

“Golden retriever, fresh of the grill!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060091)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: yellow deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060094)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Soggy Bipolar Black Woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060673)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:27 AM
Author: Vigorous piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062423)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:28 AM
Author: slate drunken garrison coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062424)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 4:07 AM
Author: bespoke alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062442)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: ruby toaster candlestick maker

Agreed. The EO is blatantly illegal and there’s a class that can be sufficiently well-defined. This one isn’t too hard to get through that shitty scotus opinion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060092)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:28 AM
Author: Histrionic location

So do they just go back to calling for district judge impeachments or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060110)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: frozen water buffalo

Of course not. Cons will address the merits this time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060159)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: nudist fortuitous meteor

no we'll just keep deporting illegals you retarded jewish pedophile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060518)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Histrionic location

except Trump isn’t deporting more people than Biden or Obama, he’s just being racist about it when he does it. But THAT is what you voted for, not an increase in overall deportation numbers, so you should be happy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060713)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: nudist fortuitous meteor

how is Trump being racist about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060931)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:47 AM
Author: Talented orchid hall new version

180 then we'll get the SC to weigh in on that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060173)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:42 AM
Author: trip locus

(pegging mfe)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060157)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: geriatric travel guidebook public bath

It's kind of funny that the birthright EO was like the WORST vehicle to get a good (administration-favoring) ruling on universal injunctions.

The problems with universal injunctions are:

(1) non-reciprocity (different plaintiffs can keep suing and losing, but if the US loses once, it's bound) -- the US lost every single one of these suits below;

(2) forum shopping, which compounds the problem of point #1 -- most of these suits were stuck being filed in border states;

(3) the availability of a nationally binding rule from scotus (obviating the need for a nationally binding injunction at the district court level) -- because the US always lost, it just didn't take up the case on appeal, so no scotus case law will ever get created if the US just knows that said case law will inevitably be bad (as would be the case with a policy that's flagrantly unconstitutional): this was literally true of the instant case, where the US lost on everything below, but elected to only seek cert on the nationwide-injunction question, and not the merits of the EO;

(4) the availability of at least Circuit-binding rules from the COAs -- SG showed up at OA and surprised everyone by saying for the first time "yeah we usually respect circuit court precedent within that circuit, but that's a discretionary policy and we don't always follow it" (obviously the guy has something specific in mind, because that's a real inconvenient time to soften this policy);

(5) "a single district judge overruling the potus" -- I think this (meaning the merits of the EO) turned out to be like a 17-0 vote of different district and circuit judges (20-0 if you count the scotus dissenters, who were not shy about expressing their thoughts on the merits).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060796)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Histrionic location

Thomas and Alito will still find some bs way to deviate from their textualist/originalist schtick to rule in Trump’s favor, but yeah on the merits I expect Trump will lose 7-2 or 6-3 with Gorsuch possibly joining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060814)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: geriatric travel guidebook public bath

My big hope is that it opens the judicial overton window to at least CONGRESS being able to narrow its own "jurisdiction thereof" (the 14th Am. term).

My understanding is that even that position was a minority view in the pre-2015 scholarship -- which, btw, can we all agree is the only scholarship that can be trusted on this shit, as any lib law professor writing on this issue in 2019 might as well be delivering a crying screed on MSNBC -- but it looks good af in comparison.

If scotus gives us that, at least senate dems will know that if they ever pull the trigger and eliminate the filibuster then they'll need to squeeze every last bit of hard work out of their housekeepers and nannies in the next 2 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060827)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:44 PM
Author: bespoke alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062241)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: frozen water buffalo

What legal argument do you think they'll make?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060992)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:43 PM
Author: geriatric travel guidebook public bath

Case is moot b/c they've all been renditioned to a salvadorian concentration camp by now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062238)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Histrionic location

Cons?

https://x.com/newswire_us/status/1943312418022588657?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49089631)