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Would you retire on 12K/mo with no debt or mortgage?

Fixed expenses of $2,000/mo (property taxes, utilities, inte...
house-broken field
  06/07/25
I plan on retiring on approximately 8K/month with no mortgag...
Smoky French Menage
  06/07/25
I turn 49 next week, and I'm done with it all. Hopefully...
house-broken field
  06/07/25
Retiring that early with that much cash really only leaves y...
Smoky French Menage
  06/07/25
the alternative is killself, which seems more catastrophic
house-broken field
  06/07/25
healthcare eats up like 25k of post-tax for a gold/family pl...
concupiscible talking locale
  06/08/25
Can you explain how that really works? I have Health insuran...
talented national death wish
  06/08/25
health insurance is basically for a. pre-negotiated rates...
concupiscible talking locale
  06/08/25
Yeah I know that. In countries like Malaysia you get A+ insu...
talented national death wish
  06/08/25
america has it's faults, but my guess is most people who spe...
concupiscible talking locale
  06/08/25
id do it on 6K month
laughsome bistre new version
  06/07/25
I might learn spanish and hie thee to costa rica
house-broken field
  06/07/25
actually thinking of doing this in next couple months, i hav...
laughsome bistre new version
  06/07/25
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house-broken field
  06/07/25
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pontificating mad-dog skullcap parlor
  06/07/25
the better question is how fucking retarded would you have t...
Well-lubricated jet-lagged dingle berry chapel
  06/07/25
I'm thinking the same thing, I'm not striving for a RSF/CSLG...
house-broken field
  06/07/25
this sounds 180 except change golf to hiking
laughsome bistre new version
  06/07/25
That would require $7 million invested. Most people will sa...
flushed locus
  06/07/25
4.2mm with 1.2mm equity in home 1.2mm is in 401K that I d...
house-broken field
  06/07/25
How are you going to get $144k annually after tax out of tha...
flushed locus
  06/07/25
How are you not? The 4% rule is garbage, and who said anythi...
house-broken field
  06/07/25
It's the three percent rule now
flushed locus
  06/08/25
lol i'm about to retire on $4500/mo. $12k would be nuts.
carnelian casino
  06/07/25
Total monthly expenses now? Expected total monthly expens...
Out-of-control Bawdyhouse
  06/07/25
Current monthly expenses are about $3,500-4,000. I eat out a...
house-broken field
  06/07/25
I'm looking for about 6k after tax
Rose electric filthpig
  06/07/25
To what country? Usa is a shithole https://www.foxnews.com/...
talented national death wish
  06/08/25
Only if it were guaranteed to increase with inflation. We pr...
aqua therapy degenerate
  06/08/25
Doctors haven't had any increase in Medicare payments since ...
talented national death wish
  06/08/25


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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:21 PM
Author: house-broken field

Fixed expenses of $2,000/mo (property taxes, utilities, internet, streaming, etc.)

I have low cost healthcare because I'm 1/8 indigenous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995599)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:24 PM
Author: Smoky French Menage

I plan on retiring on approximately 8K/month with no mortgage. If you can't retire with six figures yearly, debt free, you're doing something seriously wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995603)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: house-broken field

I turn 49 next week, and I'm done with it all.

Hopefully retirement amount will go up when I turn 62, if SS is still a thing. I don't know how, but I think I've maed it. Frugal inceldom for the W.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995612)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:31 PM
Author: Smoky French Menage

Retiring that early with that much cash really only leaves you vulnerable to catastrophic medical expenses. If you have good insurance you should be ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995632)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: house-broken field

the alternative is killself, which seems more catastrophic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995637)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: concupiscible talking locale

healthcare eats up like 25k of post-tax for a gold/family plan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48996650)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: talented national death wish

Can you explain how that really works? I have Health insurance as part of my job but never go to doctors.. so they pay for nothing.. I'm thinking of going 1099. Could I rely on just going abroad for Healthcare? Like malaysia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48996664)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: concupiscible talking locale

health insurance is basically for

a. pre-negotiated rates. if you're a cash payer, the first bill you get will be based on the hospital's outrageous book rate for a procedure.

b. catastrophic coverage. if you have to go for surgery, cancer, etc the bills, based on those inflated rate cards, will take almost anyone into bankruptcy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48996694)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:50 AM
Author: talented national death wish

Yeah I know that. In countries like Malaysia you get A+ insurance/hospital for 1/10 the price. So if you're going to retire why not pick a country like Malaysia for your health home. You just happen to be fucked if you get a heart attack while in usa. But then you're fucked anyway. Most people don't really survive a heart attack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48996702)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 12:16 PM
Author: concupiscible talking locale

america has it's faults, but my guess is most people who spent their entire life here do not want to retire in malaysia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48996742)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:27 PM
Author: laughsome bistre new version

id do it on 6K month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995615)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:28 PM
Author: house-broken field

I might learn spanish and hie thee to costa rica

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995621)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: laughsome bistre new version

actually thinking of doing this in next couple months, i have had it with all the shit and more shit, so done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995627)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:31 PM
Author: house-broken field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995633)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: pontificating mad-dog skullcap parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995624)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Well-lubricated jet-lagged dingle berry chapel

the better question is how fucking retarded would you have to be not to? That is a very decent amount of money but not enough to suggest that you are on the verge of making tens of millions of dollars, which you would have to do to meaningfully change your life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995635)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: house-broken field

I'm thinking the same thing, I'm not striving for a RSF/CSLG lifestyle. I just want to get high and golf occasionally. Maybe go on a couple of minor vacations a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995640)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: laughsome bistre new version

this sounds 180 except change golf to hiking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995653)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: flushed locus

That would require $7 million invested. Most people will say you can retire with $7 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995646)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: house-broken field

4.2mm with 1.2mm equity in home

1.2mm is in 401K that I don't think I can touch for another 6 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995650)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: flushed locus

How are you going to get $144k annually after tax out of that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995654)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:45 PM
Author: house-broken field

How are you not? The 4% rule is garbage, and who said anything about after tax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995660)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 1:35 AM
Author: flushed locus

It's the three percent rule now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48996136)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: carnelian casino

lol i'm about to retire on $4500/mo. $12k would be nuts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995680)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: Out-of-control Bawdyhouse

Total monthly expenses now?

Expected total monthly expenses in retirement?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995683)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: house-broken field

Current monthly expenses are about $3,500-4,000. I eat out a lot, and if I were retired, I'd probably cook more often.

No wife or kids

I think I'll travel more, averaged out over the course of the year, I think my budget would be 6,000/mo. I'm trying to find reasons not to retire and I'm shooting blanks.

I'll probably golf more, or maybe find some new hobbies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995745)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 9:18 PM
Author: Rose electric filthpig

I'm looking for about 6k after tax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48995733)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: talented national death wish

To what country?

Usa is a shithole https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-sex-trafficking-victim-pardoned-president-trump-reveals-disturbing-secrets-legal-brothel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48996609)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: aqua therapy degenerate

Only if it were guaranteed to increase with inflation. We probably will resort to hyperinflation to get out of our looming debt crisis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48996639)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 11:36 AM
Author: talented national death wish

Doctors haven't had any increase in Medicare payments since 2008. So any inflation brings doctors closer to taxi drivers. The only way for me to make it is invest in inflation adjusted assets like Amazon and bitcoin(too late)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734705&forum_id=2#48996660)