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Thread: US farmers fucked, food supply untenable, soil ruined by nitrate

https://twitter.com/ploughmansfolly/status/14892355661137960...
onyx spectacular half-breed wrinkle
  02/03/22
This is a huge issue that is not talked about enough. People...
Impressive insane school cafeteria
  02/03/22
this twitter's thesis seems to be that farm industry should ...
onyx spectacular half-breed wrinkle
  02/03/22
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offensive candlestick maker
  02/04/22
ljl commie
concupiscible fiercely-loyal location nibblets
  02/03/22
Gov. Youngkin is huge friend of the American farmer. Hopeful...
abnormal mental disorder
  02/03/22
When you sanction Russia this is what you get. Fuck you.
Lime aphrodisiac windowlicker
  02/03/22
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azure buck-toothed church
  02/03/22
Fed bailed out banks 3.4 trillion in Sept 2019 let's see if ...
Orange Electric Water Buffalo Volcanic Crater
  02/03/22
bullshit. maybe the cornbelt has some special conditions, bu...
Razzle-dazzle red stage crotch
  02/03/22
Why do you think elites have put their mass extermination pl...
tripping theatre
  02/03/22
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Wonderful Blathering Piazza
  02/03/22
Just use Gatorade
orchid station
  02/03/22
Didn't someone on xo call this a few months ago? And say th...
Umber lay doctorate
  02/03/22
Yep. Big money being made.
pink heady mad cow disease becky
  02/03/22
This is happening because Russia and Belarus stopped exporti...
Lime aphrodisiac windowlicker
  02/03/22
None of this is true. America has enormous domestic potash p...
House-broken institution
  02/03/22
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mauve church building
  02/03/22
I am 100% right. Russia and Belarus together account for 60%...
Lime aphrodisiac windowlicker
  02/04/22
How hard is it to manufacturer?
sable cerebral abode
  02/03/22
this is why I planted wild lupines in our garden. No need to...
mauve church building
  02/03/22
"our"? i didnt realize u had a husband
turquoise site round eye
  02/03/22
don't worry. bug farming will save us.
arousing high-end dilemma boistinker
  02/03/22
This all seems retarded. The much dumber aspect of US agric...
soul-stirring smoky persian
  02/03/22
it amazes me how consistently you are smug, retarded, and of...
exciting effete address
  02/03/22
If the 20th century proved anything it’s that central ...
soul-stirring smoky persian
  02/03/22
Except the Midwest is fucked too, agribusiness is as evil as...
appetizing brunch weed whacker
  02/03/22
True but a much easier problem to fix with regulatory interv...
soul-stirring smoky persian
  02/03/22
No I mean they are also killing the soil and depleting water...
appetizing brunch weed whacker
  02/03/22
My point is that farmers in Arizona have to use chemicals an...
soul-stirring smoky persian
  02/03/22
I look forward to Arizona farmers getting their asses kicked...
sable cerebral abode
  02/03/22
fuck those niggers. agriculture is a 15th century vocation, ...
transparent idiot
  02/03/22
"Oops haha!" - libs
harsh range jewess
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onyx spectacular half-breed wrinkle
  02/04/22


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Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:21 AM
Author: onyx spectacular half-breed wrinkle

https://twitter.com/ploughmansfolly/status/1489235566113796097?s=21

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Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:24 AM
Author: Impressive insane school cafeteria

This is a huge issue that is not talked about enough. People should really support small, local farmers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43898326)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:25 AM
Author: onyx spectacular half-breed wrinkle

this twitter's thesis seems to be that farm industry should sacrifice short term profit incentive for overall longterm social good. ljl at our ability to do such a thing anymore

the idea that boomers have basically salted the soil for 80 years is unreal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43898331)



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Date: February 4th, 2022 6:13 AM
Author: offensive candlestick maker



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:41 AM
Author: concupiscible fiercely-loyal location nibblets

ljl commie

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Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:44 AM
Author: abnormal mental disorder

Gov. Youngkin is huge friend of the American farmer. Hopefully, more mainstream politicians will take farmers seriously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43898427)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:46 AM
Author: Lime aphrodisiac windowlicker

When you sanction Russia this is what you get. Fuck you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43898442)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 5:12 PM
Author: azure buck-toothed church



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:49 AM
Author: Orange Electric Water Buffalo Volcanic Crater

Fed bailed out banks 3.4 trillion in Sept 2019 let's see if they care about farmers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43898465)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:53 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle red stage crotch

bullshit. maybe the cornbelt has some special conditions, but soil is not as weak as his claims make it appear.

also, here grazing after harvest is absolutely still common practice.

it seems he's got knowledge of corn farming in Iowa and extrapolating that across an entire country.

corn is not farmed the same way rice, etc are. ag articles are almost universally bad. go talk to an actual farmer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43898506)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:03 AM
Author: tripping theatre

Why do you think elites have put their mass extermination plans into motion?

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Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:14 AM
Author: Wonderful Blathering Piazza



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:36 AM
Author: orchid station

Just use Gatorade

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Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:38 AM
Author: Umber lay doctorate

Didn't someone on xo call this a few months ago? And say that there's like 100x money to be made from this somehow?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43898756)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 1:11 PM
Author: pink heady mad cow disease becky

Yep. Big money being made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43899268)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 1:34 PM
Author: Lime aphrodisiac windowlicker

This is happening because Russia and Belarus stopped exporting fertilizer over Ukraine tensions. Half of global fertilizer supply comes from Russia and Belarus is 20% of the potash. If Putin takes Ukraine he will control 60% of global fertilizer. Russia isnt just an oil and gas power. It feeds the planet. Vlad will starve 100 million niggers and trigger the biggest migrant crisis yet if Biden really sanctions him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43899384)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:27 PM
Author: House-broken institution

None of this is true. America has enormous domestic potash production to call on and doesn't even get it's nitr supply mostly from Russia. You're fucking stupid. Funny whenever you opine about a topic I know a lot about it's always completely wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900072)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:41 PM
Author: mauve church building



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Date: February 4th, 2022 4:08 PM
Author: Lime aphrodisiac windowlicker

I am 100% right. Russia and Belarus together account for 60% of global fertilizer supply.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43907199)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:40 PM
Author: sable cerebral abode

How hard is it to manufacturer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900143)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:23 PM
Author: mauve church building

this is why I planted wild lupines in our garden. No need to use fertilizer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900052)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:28 PM
Author: turquoise site round eye

"our"? i didnt realize u had a husband

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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:24 PM
Author: arousing high-end dilemma boistinker

don't worry. bug farming will save us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900058)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:52 PM
Author: soul-stirring smoky persian

This all seems retarded. The much dumber aspect of US agriculture is that we do a ton of it in places like California where water is scarce. A proper industrial ag policy that helped to maximize our richest soil land, compensated the are country midwesterners fairly, made most efficient use of water is an obvious policy intervention that eg China would do in a heartbeat but because our constitution and system of government gives farmers in BFE outsized political power we are stuck with farmers in Arizona gobbling up water and pumping their shit soil full of chemicals to try to pretend they aren’t doing something that nature hates and won’t tolerate. This, health care, beating China in green energy and being the world leader in cybersecurity are what will cause America’s socialist revolution in the 2030s-40s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900195)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:53 PM
Author: exciting effete address

it amazes me how consistently you are smug, retarded, and off the mark you are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900200)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:58 PM
Author: soul-stirring smoky persian

If the 20th century proved anything it’s that central planning is clearly a more efficient way to structure agricultural production. This is a significantly underplayed advantage for China and Russia as the global population continues to spike.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900218)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:54 PM
Author: appetizing brunch weed whacker

Except the Midwest is fucked too, agribusiness is as evil as anyone and they are killing the most productive farmland in the world for short term profit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900205)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:57 PM
Author: soul-stirring smoky persian

True but a much easier problem to fix with regulatory interventions. The specific problem of the midwestern family farmer getting fucked is largely a legacy of the 80s deregulation and subsequent regulatory capture by Big Ag. What I am proposing would be a way to help that problem while also fixing a wild geographic mismatch that we should all acknowledge as obviously dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900211)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:58 PM
Author: appetizing brunch weed whacker

No I mean they are also killing the soil and depleting water reserves, the difference is the desert just goes back to desert, the Midwest will be worse than it ever would have been under competent management

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900222)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 5:07 PM
Author: soul-stirring smoky persian

My point is that farmers in Arizona have to use chemicals and shitloads of water to make their crops grow in shit soil. If the only problem is Big Ag lobbyists “self policing” and using the regulatory state as a means to stomp on family farms, that’s a much more solvable political problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900718)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 4:07 PM
Author: sable cerebral abode

I look forward to Arizona farmers getting their asses kicked in the next decade or two. When things get tough, the people in Arizona have decades of success in getting their water. And farmers, who use 70% of it, are a juicy target.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900287)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 5:10 PM
Author: transparent idiot

fuck those niggers. agriculture is a 15th century vocation, like whaling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022945&forum_id=2#43900736)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 5:13 PM
Author: harsh range jewess

"Oops haha!" - libs

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Date: February 4th, 2022 7:15 AM
Author: aquamarine selfie



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Date: February 4th, 2022 3:25 PM
Author: onyx spectacular half-breed wrinkle



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