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Juneteenth is like a horrible tattoo someone got while wasted

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mildly autistic cumskin
  06/19/25
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dull domesticated school cafeteria jap
  06/19/25
It was done while the country was delirious. It sucks and mo...
mildly autistic cumskin
  06/19/25
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heady twinkling locale
  06/20/25
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disgusting spruce philosopher-king stag film
  06/20/25
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Honey-headed chest-beating codepig
  06/20/25
why do you care about the reason you are given an extra day ...
flushed jewess
  06/19/25
Nobody that matters got a day off, including me.
dull domesticated school cafeteria jap
  06/19/25
if you don't get the day off, why do you care that others do...
flushed jewess
  06/19/25
hey nigger, did we say u could talk? u wanna be lynched, boy...
blathering idea he suggested step-uncle's house
  06/20/25
(telephone tough guy)
flushed jewess
  06/20/25
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Jade cerebral base mexican
  06/19/25
Credited as fuck
blathering idea he suggested step-uncle's house
  06/20/25
Nope sorry it sucks and isn't a real holiday but things are ...
mildly autistic cumskin
  06/19/25
this is dumb. if you lived somewhere that (most) people got ...
flushed jewess
  06/19/25
Where do most people get Columbus Day off? We don't need ano...
mildly autistic cumskin
  06/19/25
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/10/05/working-o...
flushed jewess
  06/19/25
So three states and it was renamed to something woke and stu...
mildly autistic cumskin
  06/19/25
not sure what you are talking about. Look at the chart tile...
flushed jewess
  06/19/25
You're an idiot
mildly autistic cumskin
  06/19/25
explain
flushed jewess
  06/19/25
Interesting point. Very fake "holiday," even more...
coiffed lay becky
  06/19/25
This fucking guy. And the mulignans already had MLK day, ...
Self-centered athletic conference
  06/19/25
(racist guido)
coiffed lay becky
  06/19/25
Mlk was actually a repurpose of Lincoln's birthday which was...
Multi-colored corner national security agency
  06/20/25
Italians fucking love Columbus Day. It’s like 75% of w...
pearly crawly fat ankles
  06/19/25
i did for a very long time. the parades in the North End wer...
flushed jewess
  06/19/25
I got the day off, but as a racist, I would rather have work...
sable stain
  06/19/25
i can respect this response because it's honest
flushed jewess
  06/19/25
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Bronze Giraffe
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Sickened Therapy
  06/19/25
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Deranged public bath
  06/20/25
WHAT'S THE MATTER GOY, DON'T LIKE YOUR SLOP?
Self-centered athletic conference
  06/19/25
just do every day is a national holiday w mandatory time off...
Cocky aphrodisiac juggernaut turdskin
  06/20/25
Look, there are eleven federal holidays. Don't you think it...
coiffed lay becky
  06/19/25
blacks contributed only 0.01% to America, that like a 5 minu...
dull domesticated school cafeteria jap
  06/19/25
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Stirring heaven
  06/19/25
Sorry shitcon, we're also making Rosa Parks Day a federal ho...
coiffed lay becky
  06/19/25
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Nighttime people who are hurt
  06/19/25
I don't agree with that but they already have a day and a mo...
mildly autistic cumskin
  06/19/25
Give them the day after the Superbowl for their contribution...
Jade cerebral base mexican
  06/19/25
Sounds just about right. Blacks make up 14% of America where...
dead frisky french chef new version
  06/20/25
Literally no one had ever heard of this "holiday" ...
Deranged public bath
  06/19/25
I had, FYI
coiffed lay becky
  06/19/25
Juneteenth has been a state holiday recognized by the State ...
sexy vivacious marketing idea hissy fit
  06/20/25
tbf, it's a better holiday than MLK Day. MLK has been neuter...
poppy wild hairy legs rigpig
  06/19/25
Don't care about any of this but a holiday in June is much b...
Self-centered athletic conference
  06/19/25
It's not a real holiday it's a rotating Columbus Day for the...
mildly autistic cumskin
  06/19/25
It was dumb not to make it the third Monday in June. At leas...
swashbuckling primrose orchestra pit
  06/19/25
No one gets it off
mildly autistic cumskin
  06/19/25
Stock market was closed!
swashbuckling primrose orchestra pit
  06/19/25
(evan39's alt)
coiffed lay becky
  06/20/25
All the summer programs had today as an off day. Going to g...
lascivious seedy ceo
  06/19/25
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transparent sanctuary prole
  06/19/25
I just call it summer Kwanzaa
offensive senate boltzmann
  06/20/25
it's a reminder that the COVID summer of floyd actually happ...
disgusting spruce philosopher-king stag film
  06/20/25
You supported prosecuting Chauvin and took the vax.
Jade cerebral base mexican
  06/20/25
i did not support prosecuting chauvin you retard
disgusting spruce philosopher-king stag film
  06/21/25
Vax?
Jade cerebral base mexican
  06/21/25
jabbed
disgusting spruce philosopher-king stag film
  06/21/25
I enjoyed the day off. It was great. If the issue that i...
out-of-control galvanic foreskin
  06/20/25
Tcr. These ‘people’ would have everyone working ...
Arrogant contagious mood
  06/20/25
Giving people off on New Year's Day is really stupid. Christ...
Jade cerebral base mexican
  06/20/25
Do you work at the post office? A rotating Columbus Day that...
mildly autistic cumskin
  06/20/25
We have way too many holidays. Get rid of everything but 4th...
Jade cerebral base mexican
  06/20/25
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Self-absorbed swollen haunted graveyard institution
  06/20/25
Its a day off work. Who gives a fuck the reason? Its the ...
Crusty Thirsty State
  06/20/25
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&f...
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  06/20/25
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Crusty Thirsty State
  06/25/25


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Date: June 19th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: mildly autistic cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033389)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 7:57 PM
Author: dull domesticated school cafeteria jap

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033392)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: mildly autistic cumskin

It was done while the country was delirious. It sucks and most people don't know what it's supposed to be but they have to politely pretend it's good. We're stuck with it for now because it would be a mess to remove

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033400)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 1:59 AM
Author: heady twinkling locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034069)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: disgusting spruce philosopher-king stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034694)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 4:14 PM
Author: Honey-headed chest-beating codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035509)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:02 PM
Author: flushed jewess

why do you care about the reason you are given an extra day off? i personally don't have the day off but i wouldn't fucking question it if i did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033405)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: dull domesticated school cafeteria jap

Nobody that matters got a day off, including me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033424)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: flushed jewess

if you don't get the day off, why do you care that others do? are you some kind of hall monitor narc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033443)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:01 AM
Author: blathering idea he suggested step-uncle's house

hey nigger, did we say u could talk? u wanna be lynched, boy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034073)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:18 PM
Author: flushed jewess

(telephone tough guy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035237)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:34 PM
Author: Jade cerebral base mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033519)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:00 AM
Author: blathering idea he suggested step-uncle's house

Credited as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034071)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: mildly autistic cumskin

Nope sorry it sucks and isn't a real holiday but things are closed, great job libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033425)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:16 PM
Author: flushed jewess

this is dumb. if you lived somewhere that (most) people got Columbus day off, would you question it? Columbus day is as fake as they come. Italians don't give a shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033438)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: mildly autistic cumskin

Where do most people get Columbus Day off? We don't need another Columbus Day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033446)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: flushed jewess

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/10/05/working-on-columbus-day-or-indigenous-peoples-day-it-depends-on-where-your-job-is/#:~:text=Since%20then%2C%20several%20states%20have,it%20as%20an%20official%20holiday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033455)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:20 PM
Author: mildly autistic cumskin

So three states and it was renamed to something woke and stupid?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033464)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: flushed jewess

not sure what you are talking about. Look at the chart tiled "Where state workers have the second Monday in October off"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033468)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: mildly autistic cumskin

You're an idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033474)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: flushed jewess

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033550)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: coiffed lay becky

Interesting point. Very fake "holiday," even more fake than Juneteenth when you think about it. And there's way fewer "Italians" here than Blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033453)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:20 PM
Author: Self-centered athletic conference

This fucking guy.

And the mulignans already had MLK day, why do they need TWO days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033643)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:21 PM
Author: coiffed lay becky

(racist guido)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033648)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 3:19 PM
Author: Multi-colored corner national security agency

Mlk was actually a repurpose of Lincoln's birthday which was the previous 'black' holiday. When they added mlk they combined Lincoln and Washington into presidents day. Zero additional days off given.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035389)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: pearly crawly fat ankles

Italians fucking love Columbus Day. It’s like 75% of what St. Patrick’s day is to the Irish. Do you live on the Acela between Baltimore and Boston?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033473)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:37 PM
Author: flushed jewess

i did for a very long time. the parades in the North End were no grander than the hangouts / cookouts I see in my very African American heavy Bay Area town now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033532)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: sable stain

I got the day off, but as a racist, I would rather have worked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033430)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: flushed jewess

i can respect this response because it's honest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033444)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:12 PM
Author: Odious Cerise Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033609)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:01 AM
Author: Bronze Giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034074)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: mint crotch dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035245)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: Sickened Therapy

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033470)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 1:59 AM
Author: Deranged public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034068)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Self-centered athletic conference

WHAT'S THE MATTER GOY, DON'T LIKE YOUR SLOP?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033636)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 3:24 PM
Author: Cocky aphrodisiac juggernaut turdskin

just do every day is a national holiday w mandatory time off for workers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035401)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: coiffed lay becky

Look, there are eleven federal holidays. Don't you think it's fair that 18% of them should be dedicated to honoring the contributions of Black Americans to our society?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033428)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:15 PM
Author: dull domesticated school cafeteria jap

blacks contributed only 0.01% to America, that like a 5 minute observance per year, not a whole day, lib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033436)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Stirring heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033450)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:21 PM
Author: coiffed lay becky

Sorry shitcon, we're also making Rosa Parks Day a federal holiday as soon as Drumpf is dead: https://sewell.house.gov/2025/2/reps-sewell-beatty-and-figures-introduce-bill-to-create-new-federal-holiday-commemorating-the-historic-arrest-of-rosa-parks#:~:text=While%20several%20states%20have%20adopted,Rep.

Then we'll be at about the right balance of 25% of holidays devoted to Black Americans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033466)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 PM
Author: Nighttime people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033543)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:21 PM
Author: mildly autistic cumskin

I don't agree with that but they already have a day and a month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033467)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:53 PM
Author: Jade cerebral base mexican

Give them the day after the Superbowl for their contributions to athletics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033713)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: dead frisky french chef new version

Sounds just about right. Blacks make up 14% of America whereas Christians make up 62%, so it makes sense that Blacks should get twice as many holidays as Christians on account of their outsized contributions to society. It was especially critical to give them their own dedicated independence day two weeks prior to the preexisting independence holiday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035532)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: Deranged public bath

Literally no one had ever heard of this "holiday" until June 2020.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033515)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:37 PM
Author: coiffed lay becky

I had, FYI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033530)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: sexy vivacious marketing idea hissy fit

Juneteenth has been a state holiday recognized by the State of Texas since 1980.

Ralph Ellison's posthumously published novel Juneteenth was published in 1999.

So people had heard of this concept before 2020.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034701)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 PM
Author: poppy wild hairy legs rigpig

tbf, it's a better holiday than MLK Day. MLK has been neutered because he said blacks should be judged by the content of their character rather than by the color of their skin. that's so much anathema to libs today.

otoh, the day it's announced that slavery ended? that's a fucking party right there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033540)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: Self-centered athletic conference

Don't care about any of this but a holiday in June is much better than a second holiday in January.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033649)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: mildly autistic cumskin

It's not a real holiday it's a rotating Columbus Day for the post office and banks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033657)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: swashbuckling primrose orchestra pit

It was dumb not to make it the third Monday in June. At least it’s on a Friday next next year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033662)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: mildly autistic cumskin

No one gets it off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033666)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:26 PM
Author: swashbuckling primrose orchestra pit

Stock market was closed!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033674)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 5:19 PM
Author: coiffed lay becky

(evan39's alt)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035692)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: lascivious seedy ceo

All the summer programs had today as an off day. Going to get my work to change our holiday schedule so that it lines up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033781)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 11:57 PM
Author: transparent sanctuary prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033943)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 11:17 AM
Author: offensive senate boltzmann

I just call it summer Kwanzaa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034698)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: disgusting spruce philosopher-king stag film

it's a reminder that the COVID summer of floyd actually happened. and that's important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034699)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: Jade cerebral base mexican

You supported prosecuting Chauvin and took the vax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035183)



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Date: June 21st, 2025 10:29 AM
Author: disgusting spruce philosopher-king stag film

i did not support prosecuting chauvin you retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49037176)



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Date: June 21st, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: Jade cerebral base mexican

Vax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49037985)



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Date: June 21st, 2025 6:20 PM
Author: disgusting spruce philosopher-king stag film

jabbed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49038038)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: out-of-control galvanic foreskin

I enjoyed the day off. It was great.

If the issue that it should be called something else or should be in honor of something else, fine whatev. I agree. But America needs more paid holidays not less. I'd rather have a national "We Love Jews/Blacks/Women" holiday than not have one.

The only people bothered by this are capital-owning kikes and their gentile bootlickers. They can get fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034712)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 1:49 PM
Author: Arrogant contagious mood

Tcr. These ‘people’ would have everyone working Christmas and New Year’s if they thought they could get away with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035131)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Jade cerebral base mexican

Giving people off on New Year's Day is really stupid. Christmas was a week ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035204)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: mildly autistic cumskin

Do you work at the post office? A rotating Columbus Day that no one actually gets off that was created in response to mass hysteria is stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035194)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: Jade cerebral base mexican

We have way too many holidays. Get rid of everything but 4th of July, Thanksgiving, and Christmas. A single holiday fucks up a month for getting work done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035198)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: Self-absorbed swollen haunted graveyard institution



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Date: June 20th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: Crusty Thirsty State

Its a day off work. Who gives a fuck the reason?

Its the best thing the Black community has done for whites in 160 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035372)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 4:13 PM
Author: Deranged public bath

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033470

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035508)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: Crusty Thirsty State



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