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Last Ukrainian Donbass defense line is toast

https://t.me/kalibrated/23370 Straight shot to Kharkov no...
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  08/12/25
only took 3.5 years, they'll get it now for sure!
Trust If Aryan
  08/12/25
"it took you 42 moves to checkmate me instead of 3, so ...
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more like “you’ve lied about checkmate hundreds ...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
you and LIve Free or Die have been claiming Russia is collap...
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  08/12/25
no we haven’t
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
"what war? what invasion? what 2023 offensive?"
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russia can’t win this war
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
ETA on Ukraine retaking Crimea?
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  08/12/25
They are, quite literally, winning this war.
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The Russians really did win this whole thing a long time ago...
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To be fair, CR, you tell 'em amigo! Don't let them get aw...
To be fair
  08/12/25
But this time they really are. Thats whats so crazy about th...
Senior Ethics Official
  08/12/25
Which is why they're advancing massively. That usually happ...
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  08/12/25
by massively you mean glacially and of course they didn&r...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
They are advancing much faster than in the past. Ok, th...
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Ukrainians only know how to zerg rush, so it confuses Jared ...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  08/12/25
yeah at this rate it will take 4-5 years to get back the ter...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
2 points: 1. War isn't linear. As you can see, Russian g...
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  08/12/25
The Russians quite literally murdered ever single thing in f...
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How long did it take the USA to defeat Japan, Shlomo?
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  08/12/25
The war should have ended at Midway when it was clear Japan ...
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explain how russia has a path to victory when they’ve ...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
The Ukrainian military as a standing force if evaporating in...
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  08/12/25
you’ve been copying and pasting this same post since F...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
Now I'm saying it too Jared
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  08/12/25
How exactly is Ukraine going to retake any territory?
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  08/12/25
Or have ANY fighting age men left in 3 years.
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They could always draft 18-25 year olds
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Google how many of those they had in 2022 and then divide th...
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It is even worse than that. 1. They have been baiting som...
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so no answer? Ukraine could not take any of their land ba...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
unreal to me this war is still a "thing" who ga...
cell phones
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(Ukrainecuck)
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Im sorry you have no understanding of war. The Russians brok...
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Europe’s weapons factories are expanding at three time...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
Cool story. All the Hahols are now dead. Are the homosexuals...
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Bakhmut holds
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
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i really dont care. but isnt your main point that ukraine pe...
cell phones
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The US has less than 1/4th the sea lift capability it had in...
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And the most laughable thing of all is that the US has 5% th...
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True
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
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Twist: they're taking the region
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To be fair
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To be fair, Fucking unreal that in August 2025, TDNW is *...
To be fair
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yes, after 3.5 years of russia unable to achieve any of its ...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
To be fair, Yeah bro I think all of us sane poasters can ...
To be fair
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...
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russia started the war, so feel free to justify it for us
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
I could argue with you about this but who cares? Real life ...
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I don’t read comics you gamer dork but russia would...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
Russia won WW2 in this amount of time - it was literally rap...
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but back then “russia” did it 1) with Ukraine an...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
stop overestimating lend lease. yeah it gave a bunch of truc...
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lol, in Stalingrad the weapon was sacrificing over a million...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
Twist: German and Soviet casualties were similar in the Batt...
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Soviets lost more despite being on defense, lmao. cuz the le...
Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong
  08/12/25
Who won that war?
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
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They didn't lose more, they lost roughly equal numbers. Why...
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What's even more amusing is that Stalin left his asshole wid...
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Nipps literally had zero tanks and couldn’t invade shi...
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They were also already overextended in China. The reason th...
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Date: August 12th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

https://t.me/kalibrated/23370

Straight shot to Kharkov now. Open flat landed with nowhere for drone teams to hide. The Hahols just lost a third of their shithole. All glory to the Czar and his legions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178166)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: Trust If Aryan

only took 3.5 years, they'll get it now for sure!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178437)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:40 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


"it took you 42 moves to checkmate me instead of 3, so I actually win"

great reddit logic on display here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178459)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

more like “you’ve lied about checkmate hundreds of times over 3.5 years, there’s no reason to believe you now”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178762)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


you and LIve Free or Die have been claiming Russia is collapsing any day now for 3+ years.

"Bakhmut holds!" 😂

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178766)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

no we haven’t

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178771)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:19 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


"what war? what invasion? what 2023 offensive?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178776)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

russia can’t win this war

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178782)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:27 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


ETA on Ukraine retaking Crimea?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178816)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


They are, quite literally, winning this war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49179298)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

The Russians really did win this whole thing a long time ago. Certainly at Bahmut but the Hahols are suicidal and wont surrender and take reasonable terms. When this is over we are going to learn the kill count was astronomical and insanely one sided and that Ukraine took over 2 million dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178772)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

CR, you tell 'em amigo! Don't let them get away with this sort of shameless ex post historical revisionism!

...hey btw, totally unrelated question: How many more times do you think Russia is "almost" going to run out of ammo before this war ends? I lost track of the counts on that over the last few years, but I assume we must be at 100+ now... do you think we'll manage to hit 200 before it's all over?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49179175)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Senior Ethics Official

But this time they really are. Thats whats so crazy about this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49180038)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Which is why they're advancing massively. That usually happens when you run out of ammo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49180089)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

by massively you mean glacially

and of course they didn’t run out of ammo cuz they bought millions of rounds from North Korea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49180102)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:56 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


They are advancing much faster than in the past.

Ok, thanks for confirming that they're not running out of ammo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49180110)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Ukrainians only know how to zerg rush, so it confuses Jared when an army makes calculated moves to protect its men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49180125)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

yeah at this rate it will take 4-5 years to get back the territory you lost 3 years ago.. 🙄

good luck with that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49180134)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


2 points:

1. War isn't linear. As you can see, Russian gains are accelerating. The real problem for Ukraine is that they're out of men. That isn't going to get any better for them.

2. I assume you mean the territory around Kiev, Kharkov and on the other side of the Dnepr into Kherson and toward Odessa. Note that while they had that territory, they didn't have a lot of the territory they have now in Donbass. The territory they have and are capturing imminently + the territory they had (close to Nikolayev in the direction of Odessa, close to Kharkov and close to Kiev) is truly game over for Ukraine. And if they are in that position in 5 years, then I'll be fine with that. If Ukraine doesn't exist at all as an independent country in 10 years you know what that mean? That Russia won. The end. This isn't some game where the clock runs out. The Taliban captured Afghanistan after decades of war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49180181)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

The Russians quite literally murdered ever single thing in front of them so there cant even be an insurgency because every building is destroyed and every human is dead. Its complete and utter conquest. What was the point of taking an intact Iraq only to then have every building turned into a potential trap and every person into a walking insurgent? When the Russians clear a square kilometer there is nothing left there to ever oppose them again. If it takes time, it takes time but that's the way to properly fight a war of actual conquest and not the utter faggotry of pretending you own a country because all your men sit in some green zone they dont dare leave like prisoners. What American in 2011 could roam Baghdad without getting their throat slit? Answer: none. Russians own every inch they take and have no fear of walking it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178750)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


How long did it take the USA to defeat Japan, Shlomo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178753)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:20 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

The war should have ended at Midway when it was clear Japan had no path to victory and the same is true after Bahmut but both 1940s Japan and 2020s Ukraine are nutjob states run by extremists who wont surrender and instead choose to walk millions of their citizens into needless deaths.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178780)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:24 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

explain how russia has a path to victory when they’ve accomplished none of their goals and now control half as much Ukrainian land as they did 3 years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178798)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

The Ukrainian military as a standing force if evaporating in real time before our eyes. Its an attritional war wherein one side is all but attrited out. Even if by some miracle the Ukrainians drag this out another 2-3 years the results are clear. The Russian goal is quite literally to kill them all and it is working rather well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178821)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

you’ve been copying and pasting this same post since February 2022

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178850)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Now I'm saying it too Jared

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178859)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


How exactly is Ukraine going to retake any territory?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178825)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

Or have ANY fighting age men left in 3 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178832)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


They could always draft 18-25 year olds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178835)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

Google how many of those they had in 2022 and then divide that number by 3 because 2/3 fled on foot to Romania. The entire cohort of 18-25s left in country is maybe 500k and once you remove the literal retards and cripples you are looking at 400k. That will last them a whole year at most given the current tempo of the war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178860)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 9:10 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


It is even worse than that.

1. They have been baiting some of these idiots with contracts so anyone willing to fight has already gone.

2. Those "recruiters" that kidnap people to send to the front dgaf about restrictions and will grab people under 25.

This means that the number is even less. Potentially much less. The whole reason Zelensky doesn't do this is because at that point he has played his last card. Ok, it turns out that he only squeezed an extra 200k out, who quickly were KIA, WIA and MIA. Now what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49180318)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:37 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

so no answer?

Ukraine could not take any of their land back and still not lose this war

but in that case russia will have lost the war. even retarded russiacuck TMF admits this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178855)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: cell phones

unreal to me this war is still a "thing"

who gaf

its like season 27 of some sitcom. get off the air already you wrinkled cunts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178756)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:14 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


(Ukrainecuck)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178758)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:16 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

Im sorry you have no understanding of war. The Russians broke the spine of the entire Western alliance, emptied every last warehouse, quite literally killed 2 million Western trained soldiers and did all this while their GDP grew faster than the entire EU and they put Germany into a 4 year recession. It has been glorious.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49178763)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:20 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

Europe’s weapons factories are expanding at three times the rate of peacetime, stretching over 7mn sq metres of new industrial development that represents rearmament on a historic scale.

Building activity at European arms sites has gone into overdrive since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, according to a Financial Times analysis of radar satellite data covering 150 facilities across 37 companies.

The data shows that Europe’s long-promised defence revival, driven by an injection of public subsidies, is beginning to materialise not just in policy rhetoric or spending pledges but also in concrete and steel.

It comes as EU governments argue over how to sustain arms deliveries to Kyiv, as well as rebuilding their own stockpiles, in the face of a potentially wavering US commitment.

Using more than 1,000 radar satellite passes, the FT tracked changes at sites associated with ammunition and missile production, two bottlenecks in the west’s support for Ukraine.

The Sentinel-1 satellites, operated by the European Space Agency, fire radar pulses and record their echoes — known as “backscatter” — that can reveal surface alterations. The data suggests about a third of the sites reviewed showed signs of expansion or construction work.

The scale and spread of the detected work suggests a generational shift in rearmament, moving Europe from just-in-time peacetime production towards building an industrial base for a more sustained war footing.

William Alberque, a senior adjunct fellow at the Asia Pacific Forum and former director of Nato arms control, said: “These are deep and structural changes that will transform the defence industry in the medium to long term.

“Once you’re mass-producing shells, the metals and explosives start flowing, which drops the cost and complexity of missile production.”

Most defence groups declined to comment on the findings, citing security concerns.

Areas marked by changes jumped from 790,000 sq metres in 2020-21 to 2.8mn sq metres in 2024-25, the analysis showed. Photography of these sites confirmed the changes were driven by excavations ahead of works, new buildings, fresh roads being paved and construction.

Among the sites with the biggest expansion was a joint project between German defence giant Rheinmetall and Hungarian state defence company N7 Holding, which has built a vast production site for ammunition and explosives in Várpalota in western Hungary.

In 2022, there were largely undeveloped fields at the site.

Blue areas represent a decrease in radar "backscatter" over time. This is often associated with digging, for example to lay new foundations.

Orange areas represent an increase in radar backscatter, such as a new building going up.

Our analysis indicated there were major changes at this site . . .

. . . which was confirmed by checks of satellite images from 2025.

The first factory at the site in Hungary was completed in July 2024, according to a press release, producing 30mm ammunition for Rheinmetall’s KF41 Lynx infantry fighting vehicle.

“We cannot comment on the alleged outlines of our production facilities on satellite images for reasons of corporate security,” said Patrick Rohmann, a spokesperson for Rheinmetall.

Construction continues as the site will also produce other types of ammunition, including 155mm artillery shells and 120mm ammunition for the Leopard 2 tank and, potentially, the Panther, Rheinmetall said. The site will also house an explosives factory.

Radar can pick up subtle changes that may be hard to discern on conventional satellite images. The FT compared radar images from the same spring months — March to May — to minimise seasonal effects, such as trees losing their leaves, and checked the findings to avoid confusion with other activity.

Explosive facilities also often feature earthwork ridges as safety features, which can be hard to spot on optical images, or lots of small buildings.

Roxel’s factory in Saint-Médard-en-Jalles is spread across a big site. Here it is pictured in 2022.

By 2025, a large amount of construction work had happened. But a lot of these changes would be hard to find just from surveys of satellite photos.

Our radar analysis confirms the extent of the expansion work.

The analysis examined 88 sites linked to an EU programme, Act in Support of Ammunition Production (ASAP), which has invested €500mn to tackle specific bottlenecks in the production of ammunition and missiles. Both the Rheinmetall and Roxel sites were supported by ASAP.

A clear physical expansion is visible at 20 sites with ASAP funding, including the construction of entirely new factories and roads. At 14 sites, small expansions are visible, such as new car parks being built. The remaining sites either did not expand or were office and research buildings.

To allow comparison, the FT also looked at companies that did not receive EU funding through ASAP. This includes 12 sites that were wait-listed for ASAP and 50 other sites in the EU and the UK linked to missile production. The analysis indicates that the companies receiving ASAP funds expanded more rapidly than the others.

In some cases, such as at a BAE Systems factory in the north of England, works were not detected because an existing factory building was reused.

Baiba Braže, the foreign minister of Latvia, told the FT the expansion was “a very positive and much needed development”. But Braže said it was “crucial” the defence industry was ready to deliver on Nato’s growing spending and use taxpayers’ money “effectively”.

The bulk of the physical change at ASAP sites was at those listed for shell production — reflecting both the priority given to ammunition and just how much space these factories need.

EU defence commissioner Andrius Kubilius told the FT that since Moscow’s invasion, Europe’s annual capacity to produce ammunition had increased from 300,000 to reach about 2mn by the end of this year

Rheinmetall’s expansion will account for a big part of this growth: the company said its annual production capacity for 155mm rounds was set to rise from 70,000 in 2022 to 1.1mn in 2027.

Officials and industry insiders say actual output in Europe is likely to be significantly below potential capacity. Assessing the precise impact of ASAP funding is also difficult, given many manufacturers already had growth plans when the funding programme was unveiled in 2023.

Other public spending has also played a significant role. At the German headquarters of missile-maker MBDA in Schrobenhausen, new roads and building works are clearly visible. The radar identified changes affecting 94,000 sq metres of its terrain since 2022.

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This site benefited from €10mn through ASAP, together with two partner companies, to expand the production of the portable shoulder-launch Enforcer missile at the site.

But a rising flow of orders for other hardware has also contributed to the expansion. The same factory has also benefited from a $5.6bn Nato commission to produce up to 1,000 Patriot GEM-T surface-to-air missiles on European soil.

“The order volume will enable MBDA to set up a production facility for Patriot missiles in Germany, as well as major subcomponent production,” MBDA Germany director Thomas Gottschild said in a statement.

Norwegian manufacturer Kongsberg opened a missile factory in June 2024, backed with NKr640mn ($62mn) of funding to increase its missile production, including €10mn from ASAP. “The expansion led to an exponential increase in our total missile production capacity,” said company spokesperson Ivar Simensen.

The UK’s BAE Systems received support from Westminster, as well as increasing orders from the UK Ministry of Defence, and it has invested more than £150mn in its British munitions factories since 2022.

At its Glascoed site in south Wales, digging is clearly visible on satellite images. BAE says it will increase the production capacity of 155mm shells sixteen-fold when the new explosive filling facility there starts operating later this year.

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The EU is negotiating a new €1.5bn defence programme that “replicates the logic of ASAP” through grants, and would also fund joint procurement, according to the European Commission.

Kubilius, defence commissioner, said the commission was looking at whether similar methods could be used “to incentivise industries to expand their production in other areas”. Priority areas include missiles and air defence, artillery and drones.

Manufacturers have praised the ASAP programme. Thorstein Korsvold, a spokesperson for Norwegian-Finnish manufacturer Nammo, said it had been “instrumental in helping Nammo make critically important investments in production”.

Nammo received about €55mn under ASAP to boost manufacturing of shells, propellant and powder, and was part of another €41.4mn project with other manufacturers.

Significant expansion is clearly visible at Nammo’s Finnish production site in Vihtavuori.

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Similar programmes in other areas were needed, Korsvold said, pointing out that “air defence missiles as well as high explosives are currently produced only in very small quantities”.

Experts also believe that long-range strike capabilities remain a serious issue for Europe and Nato more broadly, as Russia is outpacing its adversaries.

Fabian Hoffmann, a researcher at the University of Oslo, said missiles were critical for a convincing deterrent against Russia’s superior ground forces. “Missiles are the precondition for Nato’s theory of victory. Because we are not going to keep up with Russia’s pace of mobilisation,” said Hoffman.

“With Russia’s dramatic expansion the best we can do to establish a credible deterrence that if you shoot at us, we are going to shoot right back. But if we are ever going to get there, then we have to drastically expand our production.”

While the expansions are welcome, he said “miniature jet engine production for long-range missiles are a huge bottleneck” for European missile production. Along with explosive filler, he suggested that these could be the next target of future EU spending programmes.

Methodology

Every site was checked by the FT using optical photographs to help validate the findings.

In addition, the FT used a variety of statistical processes to analyse the works identified, all of which supported the same broad conclusions.

For example, one technique that was much more conservative about the overall volume of land affected still showed a marked increase in building works on ASAP-linked sites as the money flowed in.

This model also produced estimates of the amount of land covered by completed building works, which accounted for about 70 per cent of the land-use change it detected after 2022.

The rise in excavation in 2024-25 suggests more completed buildings may follow.

Satellite maps by Aditi Bhandari and Justine Williams

This article has been corrected to say that Várpalota is in western Hungary, not southern Hungary

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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:23 PM
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Cool story. All the Hahols are now dead. Are the homosexuals in Brussels going to man the trenches now against a nuclear Russia whose own MIC has done nothing but continue to expand too? The Russians make 9000 Gerans drones a month now. Each is the functional equivalent of a Tomahawk cruise missile. The collective West cant hit that number in an entire year.

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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Bakhmut holds

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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: cell phones

i really dont care. but isnt your main point that ukraine people are retarded farmers who can't operate shovels and their country is a polluted field of rusty equipment and cowshit?

russia's inability to simply TAKE this region does not reflect so highly on russia. "Oh but the west is helping them!"

You think if Alaska seceded and was being funded by Russia we would spend more than a month taking every inch back?

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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:25 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

The US has less than 1/4th the sea lift capability it had in 1991 when it took nearly a year to preposition for Iraq so I know for a fact "we" literally could not take Alaska back if that happened. In fact, in 2025 the Chinese have 4x the sea lift the US does. The #1 navy in the world today is Chinese.

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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:30 PM
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And the most laughable thing of all is that the US has 5% the shipbuilding capacity of China. This is not even remotely going to be a close thing. US yards are in the condition the Russian yards were in during the worst of the Yeltsin years. Its total collapse in American shipbuilding right now.

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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


True

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Date: August 12th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Twist: they're taking the region

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Date: August 12th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:27 PM
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Date: August 12th, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

Fucking unreal that in August 2025, TDNW is *still* in here crowing about how Russia is fukt, Ukraine is going to win this war, etc.

Pure insanity, really top tier mental illness on full display.

TYFMFT.

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Date: August 12th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

yes, after 3.5 years of russia unable to achieve any of its goals in Ukraine, it’s the russiacucks who are looking very smart

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Date: August 12th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

Yeah bro I think all of us sane poasters can agree that in retrospect, this war has been fantastic for Ukraine overall and on top of that they're really kicking ass and taking names these days. Tick tock, Putler! SLAVA!!!!

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Date: August 12th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.




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Date: August 12th, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

russia started the war, so feel free to justify it for us

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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


I could argue with you about this but who cares? Real life isn't a comic book movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761587&forum_id=2#49180085)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:57 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

I don’t read comics you gamer dork

but russia would be much better off without becoming a dictatorship attacking neighboring countries. but your dumb ass will argue that herr Putin is a genius and all this bloodshed was necessary cuz blah blah blah

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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: \'\'\"\"\'\'\'\"

Russia won WW2 in this amount of time - it was literally raping its way through Poland by this time. Now it's fighting over villages in Ukraine no one has ever heard of. God what 3.5 years meant in 1941-1945 vs now.

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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:25 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

but back then “russia” did it 1) with Ukraine and 2) with MASSIVE materiel support via Lend Lease

now it has a bunch of alcoholics and drunks backed by North Korean weapons

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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: \'\'\"\"\'\'\'\"

stop overestimating lend lease. yeah it gave a bunch of trucks and whatnot, but you should look at what was used in stalingrad. lend lease was a rounding error in that battle. same for any battle of note. just like d-day didn't do shit to win the war except maybe speed it up by a month. ukraine was siding with the nazis in the beginning of ww2 until the germans started treating the locals worse than stalin. wouldn't say that was the fucking dealmaker, ukrainian help. they were fresh out of the 30s holodomor and not exactly keen to help the red army. you speak of history like a fucking school child educated solely in the US and without reading or researching the topic AT FUCKING ALL. go back to watching saving private ryan or band of brothers and jerking off like that shit won the war, NIGGER.

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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

lol, in Stalingrad the weapon was sacrificing over a million dead Soviet troops

but that doesn’t get you to Berlin, dipshit

FYI I’ve been to the wwii museum in Moscow. they don’t underestimate lend lease there

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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Twist: German and Soviet casualties were similar in the Battle of Stalingrad.

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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

Soviets lost more despite being on defense, lmao. cuz the leadership were/are butchers

but you still don’t get to Berlin on the bones of corpses. Lend Lease was really the U.S. leasing the soviet army to defeat Germany. but Payton was right and we should have turned our combined guns back against you commie Jews

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Date: August 12th, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Who won that war?

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Date: August 12th, 2025 8:19 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


They didn't lose more, they lost roughly equal numbers. Why do you always have such a stupid simplistic view of everything? The Germans committed a lot to Stalingrad in a way that made defending the city extremely costly. Nevertheless, the city held and without compromising holding Moscow or Leningrad or any other critical sector. At the end, the failure at Stalingrad was so disastrous for Germany that it paved the way for the loss of the war.

It is actually very similar to how Ukraine behaved with blunders in "the great Counteroffensive," Krinky and Kursk. Ukraine already had a deficit of manpower but in losing their best equipment plus a whole bunch of men (even if Russia lost similar manpower) is what got them to where they are today - totally outgunned and without the manpower to hold key strongholds. At the time you were howling that the Russians are stupid and incompetent, that they should be transferring their best units there instead of having weekend warriors hold the line. It was precisely during this period that key battles were won.



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Date: August 12th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


What's even more amusing is that Stalin left his asshole wide open for Japan when he was defending Moscow in December 1941. But the goddamn Japs attacked America instead and lost the war, because at that point they were too fearful of Russia no matter WHAT was going down in Moscow. They KNEW Stalin had pulled all his men from the east by like December 5, because those same units had appeared in reports out of Moscow

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Date: August 12th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

Nipps literally had zero tanks and couldn’t invade shit. They had 1917 technology in 1941.

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Date: August 12th, 2025 9:13 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


They were also already overextended in China. The reason they could fight as well as they could against the US is because they had a huge standing Navy, but it isn't like they could just take all those sailors and the relatively small group of Japanese marines and tell them "go invade the USSR."

They also tried to fight the USSR in Mongolia and got absolutely massacred.

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