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I need to lose some weight and get into shape. I’m serious this time.

https://imgur.com/a/wMfAxc6
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
What that thing needs is some SAUSAGE
impertinent mustard dilemma sweet tailpipe
  06/14/25
you can't even fit into a link without breaking it
Lavender Friendly Grandma Sanctuary
  06/14/25
Yes, Imgur has a scrub that breaks links on photos if I show...
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
Imgur has a stink if the nipple is pink
Infuriating peach cruise ship
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electric outnumbered national codepig
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stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
New link: https://imgur.com/a/wMfAxc6
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
i'd start by buying larger pants
Lavender Friendly Grandma Sanctuary
  06/14/25
This is the largest size pants sold at Costco's, brother. If...
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
The gut split split like that below the navel is a wonder
Ocher thriller box office
  06/14/25
You should just go to Tijuana and get massive lipo plus a tu...
electric outnumbered national codepig
  06/14/25
I need a holistic diet, exercise, stress management, and fin...
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
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irradiated at-the-ready heaven
  06/14/25
Ideal body shape and thinner than most Americans
wonderful parlour
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indecent university
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heady internal respiration
  06/14/25
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Painfully honest cumskin stain
  06/14/25
I've been seeing clips for this show 1000lb sisters where on...
Infuriating peach cruise ship
  06/14/25
pic doesn't really live up to the hype, tbh.
Marvelous tanning salon
  06/14/25
This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this i...
Harsh Market Coffee Pot
  06/14/25
Yeah this is disappointing af. This is peak Texas
Infuriating peach cruise ship
  06/14/25
He looks like me and I'm 6'3" 190 lbs.
Harsh Market Coffee Pot
  06/14/25
Same I’ve been compulsively eating more than ever.
Bossy lime brethren pocket flask
  06/14/25
Dude I have been so stressed this year. First time in a long...
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
What are we gonna do?
Bossy lime brethren pocket flask
  06/14/25
I'm at the engine telegraph putting it on full speed ahead, ...
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
you can buy tirzepatide cheap online from china
salmon weed whacker address
  06/14/25
For the next 3 weeks, do each of these every day with 100% c...
hyperactive state
  06/14/25
This doesn't really work for fatties. They'll eat 4,000 cal...
electric outnumbered national codepig
  06/14/25
Okay, brother, I’m doing it. Just got back inside from...
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
lol. If you're trying to work out, maybe don't use a lawnmo...
electric outnumbered national codepig
  06/14/25
A push mower in wet grass isn’t very effective in the ...
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
The point isn't to be effective it's to get a workout. If i...
electric outnumbered national codepig
  06/14/25
So your advice is for me to just go outside and exercise in ...
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
Holy fuck, no the advice is to get some exercise you fat fuc...
electric outnumbered national codepig
  06/14/25
to be clear, that's my advice, secondary to putting a 12 gau...
Plum Insane Legend
  06/15/25
You can't even stop making excuses for not taking the magica...
autistic digit ratio
  06/14/25
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Plum Insane Legend
  06/14/25
I’ve never made an excuse in my life, brother. I find ...
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
So why aren't you taking one of the hilariously effective fa...
autistic digit ratio
  06/14/25
"I’ve never made an excuse in my life, brother&qu...
Plum Insane Legend
  06/14/25
Do you know what it took to get in here?
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
Years of sloth and gluttony
wonderful parlour
  06/14/25
Get in where. I've lost track of the metaphor.
Harsh Market Coffee Pot
  06/14/25
He's trying to freshen up the schtick and running out of ide...
autistic digit ratio
  06/14/25
20 years of shoveling garbage down your throat at such an ex...
Plum Insane Legend
  06/14/25
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wonderful parlour
  06/14/25
I'm an ozempic truther, 90% sure tell put a hole in your hea...
Know-it-all skinny woman fortuitous meteor
  06/14/25
4-6 hour eating window and make sure you're getting 200g pro...
Erotic blathering national security agency forum
  06/14/25
100 pushups 100 situps 100 squats 10 km EVERY. SINGLE....
Flickering buff potus trailer park
  06/14/25
have you ever fasted?
disgusting queen of the night
  06/14/25
Many people are wondering this
Flickering buff potus trailer park
  06/14/25
why are you such a fat fuckin bitch
Vivacious Disrespectful Dingle Berry Gaming Laptop
  06/14/25
90% of what you need to do is manage what you eat. You alre...
magenta slimy factory reset button
  06/14/25
great content thx
Painfully honest cumskin stain
  06/14/25
This doesn’t even look nearly as bad as I thought
Aromatic personal credit line step-uncle's house
  06/14/25
I’m 365-370 pounds. Right at that threshold where the ...
stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/14/25
Post a scale pic with "xoxohth" written on paper b...
autistic digit ratio
  06/14/25
Hire a local trainer if you really can't do it yourself. He ...
Curious overrated lettuce
  06/14/25
That belly button has its own congressman.
gaped maize hospital selfie
  06/14/25
You have GOT to be a diabetic if not pre-diabetic. You s...
contagious ticket booth
  06/14/25
Early, late, or on time are all perspective and semantics
Flickering buff potus trailer park
  06/14/25
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stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse
  06/15/25
GLP-1 is here for you
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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

https://imgur.com/a/wMfAxc6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015031)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: impertinent mustard dilemma sweet tailpipe

What that thing needs is some SAUSAGE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016406)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:16 PM
Author: Lavender Friendly Grandma Sanctuary

you can't even fit into a link without breaking it



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015035)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

Yes, Imgur has a scrub that breaks links on photos if I show any part of my nipple.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015060)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:01 PM
Author: Infuriating peach cruise ship

Imgur has a stink if the nipple is pink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015220)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: electric outnumbered national codepig



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

New link:

https://imgur.com/a/wMfAxc6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015049)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: Lavender Friendly Grandma Sanctuary

i'd start by buying larger pants



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015055)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

This is the largest size pants sold at Costco's, brother. If I get any bigger I'll be regulated to shopping exclusively at Casual Male XL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015340)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: Ocher thriller box office

The gut split split like that below the navel is a wonder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015067)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:24 PM
Author: electric outnumbered national codepig

You should just go to Tijuana and get massive lipo plus a tummy tuck. They can pull like 40 pounds out of you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015076)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

I need a holistic diet, exercise, stress management, and financial planning plan.

If I could just only have healthy food, get some moderate exercise, manage my stress, and sufficiently manage my cash flow and savings/investments so I wasn't such a poor mo, I think maybe, just maybe, I could maek it and get healthy and get back to a normal body weight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015155)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:51 PM
Author: irradiated at-the-ready heaven



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: wonderful parlour

Ideal body shape and thinner than most Americans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015192)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: indecent university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015339)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: heady internal respiration



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:24 PM
Author: Painfully honest cumskin stain



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: Infuriating peach cruise ship

I've been seeing clips for this show 1000lb sisters where one sister is so fat she has a fat roll on her forehead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015198)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:58 PM
Author: Marvelous tanning salon

pic doesn't really live up to the hype, tbh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015207)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: Harsh Market Coffee Pot

This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015210)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: Infuriating peach cruise ship

Yeah this is disappointing af. This is peak Texas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015214)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: Harsh Market Coffee Pot

He looks like me and I'm 6'3" 190 lbs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015232)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: Bossy lime brethren pocket flask

Same I’ve been compulsively eating more than ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015215)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

Dude I have been so stressed this year. First time in a long time. It’s taking a toll.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015242)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:18 PM
Author: Bossy lime brethren pocket flask

What are we gonna do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015281)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

I'm at the engine telegraph putting it on full speed ahead, sea speed, brother.

Damn the torpedos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015284)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: salmon weed whacker address

you can buy tirzepatide cheap online from china

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015399)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: hyperactive state

For the next 3 weeks, do each of these every day with 100% consistency:

Walk for at least 1 hour, rain or shine

Drink nothing but water, black coffee, and plain tea

Do not eat anything after dinner/ after 8 pm

If you follow those benchmarks every day for the next 3 weeks, you'll be in the habit of meeting them, and it'll be easy to keep going. The weight will fall off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015480)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: electric outnumbered national codepig

This doesn't really work for fatties. They'll eat 4,000 calories before 8 PM.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015485)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

Okay, brother, I’m doing it. Just got back inside from half mowing my lawn (the sun and the heat were too much, also it’s been raining all week and the grass was pretty wet so the lawnmower batts ran out a little earlier than usual. One of the batts won’t even hold a charge anymore. It lasted what, 3 years maybe? I feel like it was a rip off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015534)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 4:19 PM
Author: electric outnumbered national codepig

lol. If you're trying to work out, maybe don't use a lawnmower that runs on fucking batteries, just do a push mower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015606)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

A push mower in wet grass isn’t very effective in the middle of the Jersey June, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015622)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 4:29 PM
Author: electric outnumbered national codepig

The point isn't to be effective it's to get a workout. If it takes forever, that's a good thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015660)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 4:43 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

So your advice is for me to just go outside and exercise in the heat for as long as possible, maybe suffer heat stroke, maybe have a heart attack, but just work harder for no reason other than you might get hurt and that’s be funny, haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015712)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: electric outnumbered national codepig

Holy fuck, no the advice is to get some exercise you fat fuck. We're not even 24 hours in and already you're making excuses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016289)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 9:56 AM
Author: Plum Insane Legend

to be clear, that's my advice, secondary to putting a 12 gauge in your mouth and pulling the trigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49017072)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 3:40 PM
Author: autistic digit ratio

You can't even stop making excuses for not taking the magical wonder drug that controls impulse to eat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015486)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 4:22 PM
Author: Plum Insane Legend



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Date: June 14th, 2025 4:25 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

I’ve never made an excuse in my life, brother. I find it strange that people born on third base or at home plate always love to ridicule the kids that weren’t even born in the ballpark on “making excuses” or “not trying hard enough.”

I know that I wasn’t born in here, but do you have any idea what it took to get in here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015641)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: autistic digit ratio

So why aren't you taking one of the hilariously effective fatmeds with relatively few (especially given the success profile) side effects?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015723)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: Plum Insane Legend

"I’ve never made an excuse in my life, brother"

and then immediately follows with an implicit excuse and completely ignores the substance of the poast

you've gotta be flame at this point, hard to fathom this combination of pathos + stupidity



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015774)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 5:14 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

Do you know what it took to get in here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015815)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 6:54 PM
Author: wonderful parlour

Years of sloth and gluttony

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016073)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 6:54 PM
Author: Harsh Market Coffee Pot

Get in where. I've lost track of the metaphor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016074)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:02 PM
Author: autistic digit ratio

He's trying to freshen up the schtick and running out of ideas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016090)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: Plum Insane Legend

20 years of shoveling garbage down your throat at such an extreme rate that most people would be physically incapable of matching it

such extreme sloth and gluttony that most superlatives are inadequate -- and an extraordinary capacity for pathos, self-pity, and self-indulgence besides

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016108)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: wonderful parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016278)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: Know-it-all skinny woman fortuitous meteor

I'm an ozempic truther, 90% sure tell put a hole in your heart long term. But for you it's almost certainly worth the risk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015718)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Erotic blathering national security agency forum

4-6 hour eating window and make sure you're getting 200g protein. Very hard to overeat with that much protein.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49015952)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:04 PM
Author: Flickering buff potus trailer park

100 pushups

100 situps

100 squats

10 km

EVERY. SINGLE. FUCKING. DAY



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016094)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:07 PM
Author: disgusting queen of the night

have you ever fasted?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016098)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:08 PM
Author: Flickering buff potus trailer park

Many people are wondering this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016100)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:09 PM
Author: Vivacious Disrespectful Dingle Berry Gaming Laptop

why are you such a fat fuckin bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016101)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: magenta slimy factory reset button

90% of what you need to do is manage what you eat. You already know this, and yet you avoid the magical pill that will get you that 90% to be able to lose weight.

Absolutely pathetic. Stop blaming everything/everyone else. Whatever genetic disposition you have to overeat (since that's what you always seem to blame this on) can be overcome and yet you refuse to literally do this one weird trick to make it happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016129)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:25 PM
Author: Painfully honest cumskin stain

great content thx

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016141)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: Aromatic personal credit line step-uncle's house

This doesn’t even look nearly as bad as I thought

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016290)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse

I’m 365-370 pounds. Right at that threshold where the scale stops working properly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016306)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 8:51 PM
Author: autistic digit ratio

Post a scale pic with "xoxohth" written on paper b4 we engage u further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016307)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Curious overrated lettuce

Hire a local trainer if you really can't do it yourself. He will be expensive. "Training" is probably only 30% "working out." Diet, rest, and ergogenics will be the bulk.

The biggest issue is that your entire perception of eating is wrong. You'll go nowhere until you get that properly calibrated. This is where a trainer can help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016447)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 9:57 PM
Author: gaped maize hospital selfie

That belly button has its own congressman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016457)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 10:59 PM
Author: contagious ticket booth

You have GOT to be a diabetic if not pre-diabetic.

You should've DEMANDED your doctor put you on WeGovy 20 lbs ago.

You are eating yourself to an early grave.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016593)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Flickering buff potus trailer park

Early, late, or on time are all perspective and semantics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016628)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 9:06 AM
Author: stirring kink-friendly goal in life meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737765&forum_id=2#49016988)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: irradiated at-the-ready heaven

GLP-1 is here for you

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Date: June 16th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: irradiated at-the-ready heaven



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