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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Jet-lagged Lay Quadroon Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: rebellious rose sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49464738) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Electric brunch Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Excitant Blathering University Fortuitous Meteor Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Electric brunch (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Excitant Blathering University Fortuitous Meteor They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Electric brunch read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: filthy potus Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Fragrant persian step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Lascivious peach nowag fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Shimmering giraffe what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: ruddy electric furnace cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Twisted stubborn cruise ship I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: filthy potus teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065206) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: dull free-loading office pisswyrm i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: brindle idea he suggested shrine Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: aromatic striped hyena parlour really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: diverse stag film tank It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: barnabyjones it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49458174) |