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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
soggy razzle brethren
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
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Galvanic church building dingle berry
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
Galvanic church building dingle berry
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
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Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
Motley Crusty Circlehead Regret
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
Motley Crusty Circlehead Regret
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
but content tp
duck-like bright volcanic crater
  01/17/26
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Electric whorehouse
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
Jcm here
translucent roommate jewess
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
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Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner
  01/17/26
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Racy Elastic Band
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner
  01/17/26
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Racy Elastic Band
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
lmao
Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
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Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/18/26
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Buck-toothed very tactful hominid
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
Buck-toothed very tactful hominid
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
ty
Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
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opaque multi-colored home
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
...
insanely creepy orchestra pit coffee pot
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
opaque multi-colored home
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
I love you so much
opaque multi-colored home
  01/17/26
...
insanely creepy orchestra pit coffee pot
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
...
Spectacular pistol
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
Galvanic church building dingle berry
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
Galvanic church building dingle berry
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo
  01/18/26
...
Galvanic church building dingle berry
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: soggy razzle brethren

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: Galvanic church building dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Galvanic church building dingle berry

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Motley Crusty Circlehead Regret

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: Motley Crusty Circlehead Regret

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: duck-like bright volcanic crater

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: Electric whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: translucent roommate jewess

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Racy Elastic Band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Racy Elastic Band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Buck-toothed very tactful hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Buck-toothed very tactful hominid

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Ebony Coiffed Internal Respiration Gunner

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: opaque multi-colored home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: insanely creepy orchestra pit coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: opaque multi-colored home

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: opaque multi-colored home

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: insanely creepy orchestra pit coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: Spectacular pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: Galvanic church building dingle berry

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Galvanic church building dingle berry

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: Irradiated Shimmering Menage Ceo

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: Galvanic church building dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598425)