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Date: May 28th, 2025 4:17 PM Author: bonkers nighttime principal's office hissy fit
this is such a russian bumpkin understanding of Ukrainian
“Bulgarian is just a dialect of russian!”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48968513) |
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Date: May 28th, 2025 7:41 PM Author: Dull Concupiscible Sweet Tailpipe
It’s fun how you’re a chameleon as if we’re all idiots.
your family is Jewish from Kharkiv and emigrated pre-soviet collapse. Nevertheless, when it fits whatever gay little troll point you want to make, you’ll claim to be Russian or Ukrainian.
Now, because it fits your argument, you have Ukrainian family, who you’ve always maintained speaks exclusively Russian, and therefore you have special first hand knowledge of speaking both Russian and Ukrainian.
Listen, my wife was born in Lviv and lived the first 8 years of her life there. Surely, you’ll agree that Lviv contains probably the largest population of Ukrainian speakers on earth. In the US, at home, they spoke exclusively Ukrainian.
She absolutely does not perfectly understand Russian and absolutely does not speak Russian.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48969054) |
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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:35 PM Author: Dull Concupiscible Sweet Tailpipe
Classic TMF tactic. I never claimed any personal expertise. My family having left in the 1800s is completely irrelevant because i never claimed to have any special ancestral knowledge unlike you.
I know Kharkiv and Odessa traditionally are primarily Russian speaking. Again that has nothing to do with any of the points I made.
Of course people who grew up in Lviv know Russian. Everyone in Ukraine knows Russian because they were forced to learn it. Again, that has no relevance to this subthread.
The effectiveness of this particular line of Russian propaganda has been completely obliterated. It's about as useful as claiming Arabs hate democracy and freedom in 2025.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48969338) |
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Date: May 28th, 2025 11:14 PM Author: titillating plaza french chef
You sound like a hysterical woman. So you don't really object to my main points you basically "don't like the tone of my voice." Here, your main complaint is nitpicking my use of the concept of "perfectly" understanding Russian (I guess you could say my Russian isn't perfect either but my point, which should have been clear, is that Ukrainians can watch Russian news, media, Putin's speeches, whatever and understand what is happening without needing translation - which you appear to agree with).
"The effectiveness of this particular line of Russian propaganda has been completely obliterated. It's about as useful as claiming Arabs hate democracy and freedom in 2025."
You're too old to behave like this. No one cares about our stupid XO discussion. I'm not conveying some super important Kremlin propaganda that will ultimately decide the future of Ukraine but rather stating reality which you don't even disagree with. You're just pissed that I don't politically agree with you on Ukraine.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48969537) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:52 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Most of your arguments are lazy ad hominems so why not?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48970721) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Super effective. You cling to that massive 2" advantage or whatever.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48971870) |
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Date: May 30th, 2025 4:17 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
For some reason I thought you were 5'9" or something. But look at Bloodacre all 5'11" and shit. Big swinging dick over here.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48974441) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:53 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Want to list out classical authors in Russian vs. Ukrainian languages? Someone did that once which was lol but the funniest part was pointing out all the people from Ukraine who wrote in Russian (Gogol, for example).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48970728) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
The exception proves the rule that the Ukrainian language basically has no classical literature and that even Ukrainian authors generally wrote in Russian.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48971863) |
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Date: May 28th, 2025 3:29 PM Author: Ultramarine Fragrant Senate Patrolman
ok, its bizarre from your pov. lets explore the reasons that might be:
1) im lying
2) my friend (and his family) are idiots that didnt learn their native tongue
3) your visit to ukraine doesnt make you an expert on ukranian versus russian languages
considered there are two poasters with ukranian family itt that will agree with me, perhaps its "bizarre" because your language expertise isnt what you estimate it to be
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48968398) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:45 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
I'm sure you would be pretty annoyed if I started bullshitting that Jews are all on the cusp of accepting Christ or whatever. There are plenty of non-Slavs that don't repeat obnoxious propaganda talking points that nafo accounts parrot but unfortunately, that's not the case with TDNW.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48971873) |
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Date: May 30th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
And if my background was being part Russian/Ukrainian but had never been in Russia/Ukraine and didn't speak the language then sure, it would be the same.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48974107) |
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Date: May 28th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: titillating plaza french chef
I don't think you're lying but I think it is bizarre. But there are people who grew up in the US and don't speak English.
Here's the deal with Crimea - it is VERY Russian (more Russian than much of Russia). There are people in Russia who don't speak Russian for a variety of reasons. There are ethnic minorities there too (Crimean Tatars for example). It is possible that there is a tiny village where everyone speaks Ukrainian though again, Ukrainian and Russian are VERY close any generally mutually intelligible. It is also possible that what he calls Ukrainian is actually Surzhyk (an even more Russian version of Ukrainian). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surzhyk
But again, it is very strange. I'm not calling you a liar or him a liar or whatever.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48968754) |
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Date: May 28th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: bonkers nighttime principal's office hissy fit
Ukrainian is closer to Polish and Czech/Slovak than it is to russian
Ukr/ru are less similar than Spanish/Portuguese
but keep acting like they are the same you dipshit
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48968776) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
You're spouting a bunch of Ukrainian nationalist propaganda about a dialect you can't speak or understand.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48970702) |
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Date: May 30th, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
lol cr.
Ukrainian is a fake identity
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48973567) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
This fact pattern makes much more sense.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48970708) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:51 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Diaspora communities generally have much weaker language skills than the native communities (which is why I'm going to have to have my kid go back to Russia at some point). Sure, someone who learns Ukrainian as their second language which they speak only occasionally with family and a few friends is not going to be comparable to the situation in Ukraine or Russia, for example.
Do you know how I learned Ukrainian? There was a guy in our Kiev office who natively spoke Ukrainian and asked if I minded if he spoke Ukrainian and said he'll just speak more slowly for a few days and once my mind adapts I'll be able to understand him. It worked perfectly.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48970719) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
As you know because we've talked about this ad nauseum, I regard Russia and Ukraine as one and the same with Ukraine just being a part of Russia. The parts of Ukraine that I would care to visit will end up a part of Russia anyway. I basically don't give "Ukrainian independence" any real substance.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48971869) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
I absolutely can understand it. Anyone with a decent command of Russian that spent time just listening to Ukrainian would have it mentally click VERY quickly.
Edit: Does your wife also not speak Ukrainian? She could easily teach you if she does.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48971871) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:54 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
To be fair, a large portion of Ukrainians and Russians all agree with this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48970730) |
Date: May 30th, 2025 3:05 PM Author: fulano
TMF probably speaks shitty russian, and admittedly even worse Ukrainian, arguing that they are mutually comprehensible based solely on the fact that ukrainians would have been forced to learn russian as children.
That will obviously go away.
an average colombian does not understand portuguese. he could go live there and pick it up quicker than a chinaman but he's not able to sit and watch the news
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48974145) |
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Date: May 30th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
My Russian is fine and yes, my Ukrainian is obviously much worse. Nevertheless, I've never formally studied Ukrainian in my life and nevertheless can easily watch the news in Ukrainian. Zelensky's show is in both Russian and Ukrainian used interchangeably and it wouldn't occur to anyone that subtitles were needed.
And as to this going away, seems likely only for diaspora.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2#48974467) |
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