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I think about Christine "Blasey" Ford a lot

How she sounded like an uptalking literally shaking child as...
misanthropic zippy voyeur menage
  03/25/22
Would you creampie her to degrade her?
infuriating transparent gas station
  03/26/22
it was all fabricated psyop theater
Metal mewling dysfunction newt
  03/25/22
She even won an acting award for it https://cdn.cnn.com/c...
flushed ladyboy
  03/25/22
Haha yeah! That was definitely a terrible time! Glad we move...
maroon greedy toaster
  03/25/22
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lilac big theater stage
  03/25/22
Reminder: Ford had two front doors because she was illegally...
Flirting cordovan party of the first part
  03/25/22
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Titillating nursing home
  03/25/22
No it was to protect her from getting "boofed" aga...
misanthropic zippy voyeur menage
  03/25/22
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Metal mewling dysfunction newt
  03/25/22
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flushed ladyboy
  03/25/22
Reminder: she spent a week brainstorming at a beach house (w...
Massive Wine Parlor
  03/25/22
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Titillating nursing home
  03/25/22
And she claimed she had a fear of flying and couldn’t ...
Flirting cordovan party of the first part
  03/25/22
I really want to know more about the Feinstein staffer who o...
Deep laughsome hall electric furnace
  03/25/22
And didn't she testify under oath that she couldn't recall w...
Jet-lagged Nowag
  03/25/22
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iridescent library regret
  03/25/22
lol is this confirmed? good god.
Trip principal's office
  03/25/22
https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/10/05/christine-blasey-fo...
Massive Wine Parlor
  03/25/22
Mark Judge has written convincingly that they carefully weav...
Jet-lagged Nowag
  03/25/22
we must stop the nomination process to have more time to loo...
dashing point
  03/25/22
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Swashbuckling canary business firm roommate
  03/25/22
And she planted a hedge to visually block the second, illega...
Jet-lagged Nowag
  03/25/22
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Flirting cordovan party of the first part
  03/25/22
Were the young men literally faggots? Given it was Google t...
Vibrant house
  03/25/22
Didn't an ex boyfriend come out of the woodworks to point ou...
Spectacular faggot firefighter immigrant
  03/25/22
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Swashbuckling canary business firm roommate
  03/25/22
What about her Beach Friends
Titillating nursing home
  03/25/22
Who happened to be lib activist “former” FBI and...
Deep laughsome hall electric furnace
  03/25/22
That's a doctor your poasting about son
cream kitchen
  03/25/22
fuck how could i forget DOCTOR Blasey Ford
misanthropic zippy voyeur menage
  03/25/22
GOP senators called her "credible" too. Never forg...
umber laser beams sandwich
  03/25/22
"IT'S A TERM THAT REFERS TO FLATLUENCE, SENATOR"
Trip principal's office
  03/25/22
It just says so much about libs' shaky perception of reality...
Cerebral church building
  03/25/22
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Deep laughsome hall electric furnace
  03/25/22
Wrestling is 180 though. Libs, not so much.
nudist gay area
  03/25/22
Those comically oversized glasses that were obviously not he...
flushed ladyboy
  03/25/22
This got 24/7 news coverage for weeks. Are journalists still...
Motley pale church potus
  03/25/22
odd case
misanthropic zippy voyeur menage
  03/25/22
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Titillating nursing home
  03/25/22
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soul-stirring theatre halford
  03/25/22
Because more time passed and most people who recalled K's di...
Cerebral church building
  03/25/22
The only other person who could have corroborated her story ...
flushed ladyboy
  03/25/22
Ford implied she was ill. I guess the "friends" we...
Flirting cordovan party of the first part
  03/25/22
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Swashbuckling canary business firm roommate
  03/25/22
She couldn't remember: The date, not even the year How...
Flirting cordovan party of the first part
  03/25/22
...
dashing point
  03/25/22
Otherwise it was indelible in her hippocampus though
Massive Wine Parlor
  03/25/22
she also had no clue who her lawyers were, how much they wer...
Razzmatazz crotch
  03/26/22
This was during the (patently ridiculous) BELIEVE *clap* ALL...
Purple fluffy national
  03/25/22
nice moniker
soul-stirring theatre halford
  03/25/22
Ty. New poaster first day
Purple fluffy national
  03/25/22
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Metal mewling dysfunction newt
  03/25/22
I often think about how, around the same time Doctress Ford ...
Federal plaza
  03/25/22
lol, i don't remember this. did it make xoxo?
dashing point
  03/26/22
https://www.mcall.com/resizer/neG4zByh9a847iU-KId5c1Axe7w=/8...
Cerebral church building
  03/25/22
do we know where robert redford was when this was taken? doe...
misanthropic zippy voyeur menage
  03/25/22
I don't know. Im not a biologist.
Cobalt locus
  03/25/22
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Purple fluffy national
  03/26/22
the squeaky baby voice stuff was insane it was unreal that...
Metal mewling dysfunction newt
  03/25/22
She’s literally Kavanaugh
wild public bath
  03/25/22
kavanaugh fighting back and pwning her was an inspiring mome...
Aromatic Turquoise Rehab
  03/25/22
Yeah but also fuck him
Massive Wine Parlor
  03/25/22
Cr was 180 when he pwned her with “I’m literally...
saffron background story headpube
  03/26/22
And side with Dems in decisions frequently
wild public bath
  03/26/22
then the fucking scum snakes shifted to criticizing his temp...
dashing point
  03/26/22
yeah that was strange when kav had to dress up like a woman ...
ivory wonderful son of senegal
  03/26/22
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wild public bath
  03/26/22
this moment changed quite a lot for me, it made me hate libs...
Reinhard Heydrich Uunona
  11/25/25
Same. I still believe Dr. Ford.
Judas Jones
  11/25/25


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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:09 AM
Author: misanthropic zippy voyeur menage

How she sounded like an uptalking literally shaking child as she delivered farcical and obviously falsified testimony, how libs unthinkingly ate it up and called this obvious nut "credible," how she had two front doors to defend against getting "boofed" thirty years later, how she looked like cboyardee melting cartoon character, how libs thought her phrase "indelible in the hippocampus" was clever.

What a clown show that was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214634)



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Date: March 26th, 2022 12:20 AM
Author: infuriating transparent gas station

Would you creampie her to degrade her?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44219800)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:10 AM
Author: Metal mewling dysfunction newt

it was all fabricated psyop theater

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214637)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:30 AM
Author: flushed ladyboy

She even won an acting award for it

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191118082801-01-christine-blasey-ford-aclu-award-1117.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215148)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:13 AM
Author: maroon greedy toaster

Haha yeah! That was definitely a terrible time! Glad we moved on to better times!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214648)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:27 AM
Author: lilac big theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215135)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:24 AM
Author: Flirting cordovan party of the first part

Reminder: Ford had two front doors because she was illegally renting space in her house. She went to a therapist as cover for that, and claimed it was because of a sexual assault. She even accidentally admitted in her testimony that she had Google employees staying in her house. Someone who was traumatized like that wouldn’t want young men staying in their home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214703)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:24 AM
Author: Titillating nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214705)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:26 AM
Author: misanthropic zippy voyeur menage

No it was to protect her from getting "boofed" again like she did 30 years ago sorry bigot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214715)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:27 AM
Author: Metal mewling dysfunction newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214719)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:28 AM
Author: flushed ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214720)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:31 AM
Author: Massive Wine Parlor

Reminder: she spent a week brainstorming at a beach house (which she flew to) with an FBI lawyer before coming forward with her 'allegations'. She also made over $1 million on gofundme 'donations'.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214738)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:31 AM
Author: Titillating nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214743)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:37 AM
Author: Flirting cordovan party of the first part

And she claimed she had a fear of flying and couldn’t make it to court or would have to drive across the country lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214791)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:09 AM
Author: Deep laughsome hall electric furnace

I really want to know more about the Feinstein staffer who orchestrated all of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214982)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:39 AM
Author: Jet-lagged Nowag

And didn't she testify under oath that she couldn't recall who was at the beach house?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215205)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:55 AM
Author: iridescent library regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215315)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:56 AM
Author: Trip principal's office

lol is this confirmed? good god.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215323)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:14 PM
Author: Massive Wine Parlor

https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/10/05/christine-blasey-fords-doj-fbi-connection/

It's worse than it sounds even.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215460)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 7:03 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Nowag

Mark Judge has written convincingly that they carefully weaved around the problem areas and carefully weaved in some facts that they learned only once they decided to attack Kav. That accounts for the fact that her memory selectively went from non-existent to amazingly precise. Over all, her story was a skillfully scripted hit piece.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217969)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:04 PM
Author: dashing point

we must stop the nomination process to have more time to look into this!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215374)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 6:44 PM
Author: Swashbuckling canary business firm roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217858)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:22 AM
Author: Jet-lagged Nowag

And she planted a hedge to visually block the second, illegal door.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215090)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:42 AM
Author: Flirting cordovan party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215223)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 3:38 PM
Author: Vibrant house

Were the young men literally faggots? Given it was Google they probably used to be women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44216740)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 6:42 PM
Author: Spectacular faggot firefighter immigrant

Didn't an ex boyfriend come out of the woodworks to point out she lived in a studio for years with only one door and was flying aplenty without fear?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217848)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 6:43 PM
Author: Swashbuckling canary business firm roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217854)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:24 AM
Author: Titillating nursing home

What about her Beach Friends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214706)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:27 AM
Author: Deep laughsome hall electric furnace

Who happened to be lib activist “former” FBI and knew a lot about how to pass polygraph tests

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214718)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:29 AM
Author: cream kitchen

That's a doctor your poasting about son

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214728)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 10:32 AM
Author: misanthropic zippy voyeur menage

fuck how could i forget

DOCTOR Blasey Ford

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44214744)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:14 AM
Author: umber laser beams sandwich

GOP senators called her "credible" too. Never forget that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215027)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:23 AM
Author: Trip principal's office

"IT'S A TERM THAT REFERS TO FLATLUENCE, SENATOR"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215102)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:25 AM
Author: Cerebral church building

It just says so much about libs' shaky perception of reality that they can be fooled by this sort of person over and over.

If the WWE somehow aligned with their worldwiew, they'd 100% believe that pro wrestling is real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215115)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:26 AM
Author: Deep laughsome hall electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215121)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:48 AM
Author: nudist gay area

Wrestling is 180 though. Libs, not so much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215255)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:26 AM
Author: flushed ladyboy

Those comically oversized glasses that were obviously not hers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215124)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:30 AM
Author: Motley pale church potus

This got 24/7 news coverage for weeks. Are journalists still trying hard to find the truth behind the shocking allegations against Kavanaugh? Seems like if there’s something there, lots of journalists should be looking for it to this day. Why throw in the towel once he’s confirmed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215149)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:40 AM
Author: misanthropic zippy voyeur menage

odd case



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215210)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:42 AM
Author: Titillating nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215221)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:44 AM
Author: soul-stirring theatre halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215231)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:48 AM
Author: Cerebral church building

Because more time passed and most people who recalled K's dirty deeds in 2018 have since forgotten key details

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215254)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:51 AM
Author: flushed ladyboy

The only other person who could have corroborated her story finally called flame

https://nypost.com/2019/09/17/christine-blasey-fords-friend-now-says-shes-skeptical-of-kavanaugh-accusation/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215275)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:02 PM
Author: Flirting cordovan party of the first part

Ford implied she was ill. I guess the "friends" were going to try to out her as an addict lol. It really is a religion to these people

In a group text, one woman wrote of Keyser, “Maybe one of you guys who are friends with her can have a heart to heart. I don’t care, frankly, how f–ked up her life is. A lot of us have f–ked up lives in one way or another.’’

Another texter, apparently referring to what the book called Keyser’s “addictive tendencies,’’ said, “Perhaps it makes sense to let everyone in the public know what her condition is. Just a thought.’’

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215361)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 6:45 PM
Author: Swashbuckling canary business firm roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217859)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 11:47 AM
Author: Flirting cordovan party of the first part

She couldn't remember:

The date, not even the year

How she got there

Whose house it was

Who was there

How she got home, several miles away

But definitely very clearly remembered that Brett Kavanaugh kissed her and she was worried he would "accidentally suffocate" her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215246)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:07 PM
Author: dashing point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215394)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 5:31 PM
Author: Massive Wine Parlor

Otherwise it was indelible in her hippocampus though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217387)



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Date: March 26th, 2022 1:15 AM
Author: Razzmatazz crotch

she also had no clue who her lawyers were, how much they were charging, or who hired them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44220019)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:03 PM
Author: Purple fluffy national

This was during the (patently ridiculous) BELIEVE *clap* ALL *clap* WOMEN era, which overlapped with the era of “victim” morphing into “survivor.” I used to love this country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215372)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:04 PM
Author: soul-stirring theatre halford

nice moniker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215379)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 12:07 PM
Author: Purple fluffy national

Ty. New poaster first day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44215398)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 3:51 PM
Author: Metal mewling dysfunction newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44216820)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 6:30 PM
Author: Federal plaza

I often think about how, around the same time Doctress Ford was spinning yarns about beach friends and second front doors, another professor literally SHOT HIMSELF to “protest Trump.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-protest-professor-shoot-himself-college-university-southern-nevada-california-mark-bird-a8542771.html

So we’re expected to believe that even though a lib professor was willing to cause himself grievous bodily harm for the purpose of making some pointless, ineffectual political statement, there’s no way another lib professor would tell a lie for the purpose of potentially derailing a conservative Supreme Court nomination right before a Senate election.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217767)



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Date: March 26th, 2022 1:20 AM
Author: dashing point

lol, i don't remember this. did it make xoxo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44220027)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 6:41 PM
Author: Cerebral church building

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217845)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 6:47 PM
Author: misanthropic zippy voyeur menage

do we know where robert redford was when this was taken? does anyone KNOW?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217868)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 6:54 PM
Author: Cobalt locus

I don't know. Im not a biologist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217906)



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Date: March 26th, 2022 12:21 AM
Author: Purple fluffy national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44219804)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 6:56 PM
Author: Metal mewling dysfunction newt

the squeaky baby voice stuff was insane

it was unreal that these politicians pretended to take it seriously

they've lost their edge and there will be consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217914)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 6:59 PM
Author: wild public bath

She’s literally Kavanaugh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217933)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 7:01 PM
Author: Aromatic Turquoise Rehab

kavanaugh fighting back and pwning her was an inspiring moment tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217956)



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Date: March 25th, 2022 7:03 PM
Author: Massive Wine Parlor

Yeah but also fuck him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44217972)



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Date: March 26th, 2022 12:00 AM
Author: saffron background story headpube

Cr was 180 when he pwned her with “I’m literally a cuckold and only hire womyn!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44219722)



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Date: March 26th, 2022 12:54 AM
Author: wild public bath

And side with Dems in decisions frequently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44219937)



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Date: March 26th, 2022 12:57 AM
Author: dashing point

then the fucking scum snakes shifted to criticizing his temperament

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44219959)



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Date: March 26th, 2022 12:55 AM
Author: ivory wonderful son of senegal

yeah that was strange when kav had to dress up like a woman and accuse himself of rape in a public freemasonic hazing ritual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44219947)



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Date: March 26th, 2022 12:58 AM
Author: wild public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#44219963)



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Date: November 25th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Reinhard Heydrich Uunona (✅🍑)

this moment changed quite a lot for me, it made me hate libs a lot more than I had before



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#49459653)



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Date: November 25th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Judas Jones

Same. I still believe Dr. Ford.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5067617&forum_id=2#49459657)