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Just got on TRT, feels like a cheat code for IRL

I’ll probably die sooner but in the meantime holy shit...
Dark heady pozpig becky
  12/21/23
Describe the effects
Azure razzle-dazzle patrolman mother
  12/21/23
https://wallpaper.dog/large/20379828.jpg
Dark heady pozpig becky
  12/21/23
180
Balding spot community account
  12/21/23
I think that’s very unhealthy friend especially if you...
Sooty swashbuckling gaping jewess
  12/21/23
Better to burn twice as bright and half as long friend
Doobsian Skinny Woman
  12/21/23
...
Dark heady pozpig becky
  12/21/23
...
Azure razzle-dazzle patrolman mother
  12/21/23
(chill, fratty Nexus-6™ android)
Hairraiser House
  12/21/23
do you want to have kids in the future
shivering haunting box office
  12/21/23
No I’m done having kids. If this makes it harder for m...
Dark heady pozpig becky
  12/21/23
DESCRIBE the physical effects. horny and crushing your gym ...
shivering haunting box office
  12/21/23
Sex drive is reinvigorated. I barely have to even work out n...
Dark heady pozpig becky
  12/21/23
sounds like the dream, brother
shivering haunting box office
  12/21/23
he’ll ya
Dark heady pozpig becky
  12/21/23
is trt always w/ injections, or are their non-needle options...
Violent bright hissy fit university
  12/21/23
Pills and gels.
Arousing sinister set
  12/21/23
Lame. Either you have it or you don't. Don't cheat.
Jade den puppy
  12/21/23
Sorry I don’t have your natural t levels. I was basica...
Dark heady pozpig becky
  12/21/23
I should do this, huh? Does it mess up you're sperms?
know-it-all ruby foreskin elastic band
  12/21/23
idk only been on it a week. I assume it will shorten my life...
Dark heady pozpig becky
  12/21/23
lulzy thread
adventurous piazza
  12/22/23
LOL IRATE GOOK DETECTED
Smoky Titillating Wrinkle
  12/22/23
the first poster in xoxo history to provide a full write-up ...
adventurous piazza
  12/23/23
I have a source for this. What are the real negatives? ...
khaki dashing tanning salon
  12/22/23
your t levels go down with time. no need for a 'source', i t...
Violent bright hissy fit university
  12/22/23
ok but to the question... if you do trt, is it something tha...
khaki dashing tanning salon
  12/22/23
...
shivering haunting box office
  12/22/23
Upon starting trt, You will stop endogenous production much ...
Grizzly Step-uncle's House Filthpig
  12/22/23
Great! I get to enter enslavement to Big Pharm for the rest ...
lime casino
  12/22/23
Aren't you goy? If so that's basically your purpose in this...
low-t kitty cat lodge
  12/25/23
Real negative is that the exogenous T causes your heart to s...
Doobsian Skinny Woman
  12/22/23
Only at massive doses, and good cardio / diet / supplementat...
Balding spot community account
  12/22/23
Vitamin k2 isn't going to stop cardiomegaly lol. The thresho...
Doobsian Skinny Woman
  12/22/23
No, the rest of it (mostly cardio) will ameliorate that, and...
Balding spot community account
  12/22/23
There is no evidence for any of the ameliorative stuff, whic...
Doobsian Skinny Woman
  12/22/23
If T is kept at physiologic levels, why would we expect thes...
Angry passionate indian lodge
  12/22/23
You're throwing a phat bolus of t into your bloodstream and ...
Doobsian Skinny Woman
  12/22/23
I’m injecting sub Q 3x a week. Levels should be pretty...
Angry passionate indian lodge
  12/22/23
Lmao only applicable to test prop, which I agree has more ri...
Balding spot community account
  12/22/23
is Peter Attia personally taking exogenous T?
shivering haunting box office
  12/22/23
Not yet, but he is supervising patients and has said that th...
Angry passionate indian lodge
  12/22/23
There's absolutely evidence lmao. 1. Difference in enlar...
Balding spot community account
  12/22/23
Dude you've gone from "juice doesn't make your heart gr...
Doobsian Skinny Woman
  12/23/23
1. No, my position the entire time.has been that the risks a...
Balding spot community account
  12/23/23
Your argument makes no sense. You are talking about how doin...
Doobsian Skinny Woman
  12/24/23
Because size is the limiting factor for angiogenesis, assumi...
Balding spot community account
  12/25/23
as someone who would consider TRT, i want to believe this. ...
shivering haunting box office
  12/25/23
Add nattokinase
Poppy territorial market coldplay fan
  12/22/23
TRT also turns you into a fag and at the least you will beco...
Doobsian Skinny Woman
  12/22/23
He's already a poaster
nighttime milk
  12/24/23
This sounds 180
ALZABO
  01/06/26
I started in August and feel great. 120/week + HCG. Goal is ...
Angry passionate indian lodge
  12/22/23
Where are you getting the HCG?
Bespoke curious site sweet tailpipe
  12/23/23
Emphasis on "cheat." Enjoy while it lasts
Grizzly Step-uncle's House Filthpig
  12/22/23
...
Doobsian Skinny Woman
  12/22/23
did you do it? it stopped working after a while?
shivering haunting box office
  12/22/23
I did not do it but I lived with crashed T for ~18 months af...
Grizzly Step-uncle's House Filthpig
  12/23/23
ty. and yours came back naturally? did you take any otc su...
shivering haunting box office
  12/23/23
It has recovered to healthy levels but not to previous level...
Grizzly Step-uncle's House Filthpig
  12/23/23
ty
shivering haunting box office
  12/23/23
TRT is 180 for olds and there's no reason not to. I'm going ...
Balding spot community account
  12/23/23
No reason not to do it other than increased risk of heart at...
Abnormal point
  12/23/23
Only if you're in terrible cardio shape in the first place; ...
Balding spot community account
  12/23/23
I need to do this. My wife will be dead in a week though.
Sienna striped hyena range
  12/23/23
How many pull-ups can you do? I take finasteride and will re...
spectacular school
  12/23/23
36 without any TRT, will probably be at 50 before I jump on ...
Balding spot community account
  12/23/23
Fats, skinnyfats, and do-nothings who can't run five miles a...
Balding spot community account
  12/23/23
...
Up-to-no-good yarmulke lay
  12/24/23
Anyone who is contemplating TRT and isn’t 50+ (at whic...
walnut parlor depressive
  12/23/23
been on for 10 plus years. seems fine overall. didn't know...
exciting pervert
  12/23/23
...
Balding spot community account
  12/23/23
Can you do this with creams only? I tried but gave up aft...
Jet nursing home
  12/23/23
how do you avoid the joe rogan/alex jones effect where your ...
flushed athletic conference
  12/24/23
i'm not an expert at all, but i thought this effect (see als...
shivering haunting box office
  12/24/23
lol @ testmos convincing themselves that they won’t di...
Abnormal point
  12/25/23
Hey, I noticed you didn't have any response here: http://www...
Balding spot community account
  12/25/23
I'd suggest correcting the lifestyle factors that are loweri...
vivacious area
  12/25/23
You don't actually need to stay on it for life if you don't ...
Balding spot community account
  12/25/23
can you get enclomiphene from a licensed usa doctor/clinic, ...
shivering haunting box office
  12/25/23
You can get it from a us doc.
nighttime milk
  12/25/23
ty
shivering haunting box office
  12/25/23
Unfortunately if you’ve be been on TRT for a few years...
Poppy territorial market coldplay fan
  12/25/23
180 poast, tyft My impression was based on the experienc...
Balding spot community account
  12/25/23
...
shivering haunting box office
  12/25/23


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Date: December 21st, 2023 9:42 AM
Author: Dark heady pozpig becky

I’ll probably die sooner but in the meantime holy shit this stuff is amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47196763)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 9:43 AM
Author: Azure razzle-dazzle patrolman mother

Describe the effects

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47196766)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 9:56 AM
Author: Dark heady pozpig becky

https://wallpaper.dog/large/20379828.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47196803)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 10:41 AM
Author: Balding spot community account

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47197006)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 9:57 AM
Author: Sooty swashbuckling gaping jewess

I think that’s very unhealthy friend especially if you’re at 200/wk. also the results will likely normalize in a few months and won’t feel as great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47196805)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 10:00 AM
Author: Doobsian Skinny Woman

Better to burn twice as bright and half as long friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47196810)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 10:03 AM
Author: Dark heady pozpig becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47196825)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 10:13 AM
Author: Azure razzle-dazzle patrolman mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47196880)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 3:35 PM
Author: Hairraiser House

(chill, fratty Nexus-6™ android)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47198557)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 10:16 AM
Author: shivering haunting box office

do you want to have kids in the future

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47196895)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 10:47 AM
Author: Dark heady pozpig becky

No I’m done having kids. If this makes it harder for me to get my wife pregnant then that’s a 180 bonus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47197023)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 11:52 AM
Author: shivering haunting box office

DESCRIBE the physical effects. horny and crushing your gym lifts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47197359)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 12:11 PM
Author: Dark heady pozpig becky

Sex drive is reinvigorated. I barely have to even work out now since even a moderate amount of exercise puts me in great shape

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47197462)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 3:17 PM
Author: shivering haunting box office

sounds like the dream, brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47198478)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 3:42 PM
Author: Dark heady pozpig becky

he’ll ya

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47198587)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 10:30 AM
Author: Violent bright hissy fit university

is trt always w/ injections, or are their non-needle options? there are some ripped boomers at my gym that have to be gear'd up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47196952)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 10:43 AM
Author: Arousing sinister set

Pills and gels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47197016)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 3:37 PM
Author: Jade den puppy

Lame. Either you have it or you don't. Don't cheat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47198571)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 3:43 PM
Author: Dark heady pozpig becky

Sorry I don’t have your natural t levels. I was basically the same throughout my 20s and 30s then right when I hit 40 all kinds of weird stuff started happening and I suddenly felt like an old man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47198593)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 3:46 PM
Author: know-it-all ruby foreskin elastic band

I should do this, huh? Does it mess up you're sperms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47198601)



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Date: December 21st, 2023 3:48 PM
Author: Dark heady pozpig becky

idk only been on it a week. I assume it will shorten my life span. if I can get 15 good years out of it though I think it will have been worth it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47198612)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 3:24 AM
Author: adventurous piazza

lulzy thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47200557)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 3:29 AM
Author: Smoky Titillating Wrinkle

LOL IRATE GOOK DETECTED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47200563)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 11:55 PM
Author: adventurous piazza

the first poster in xoxo history to provide a full write-up of a TRT cycle, actually:

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4979749&mc=60&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47207883)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 7:05 AM
Author: khaki dashing tanning salon

I have a source for this.

What are the real negatives?

Does your body stop producing T normally and do o have to do trt forever now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47201032)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 9:15 AM
Author: Violent bright hissy fit university

your t levels go down with time. no need for a 'source', i think there are tons of these men's / anti-aging clinics everywhere that just do some bloodwork and get you prescribed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47201396)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 9:19 AM
Author: khaki dashing tanning salon

ok but to the question... if you do trt, is it something that you need to keep doing forever?

does it reduce the natural t your body produces, pwning you if you ever stop?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47201407)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 12:56 PM
Author: shivering haunting box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202200)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:34 PM
Author: Grizzly Step-uncle's House Filthpig

Upon starting trt, You will stop endogenous production much more quickly than it will resume if/when you stop trt, and that transition period is an extreme challenge. There is a guy on YouTube named Merijn who stopped TRT and is working through restoring natural production. Derek MPMD mentioned to Zack Telander that he will consider stopping exogenous T in the future. So restoration is not impossible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202643)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:49 PM
Author: lime casino

Great! I get to enter enslavement to Big Pharm for the rest of my gd life, forever seeking Rxs at Walgreens, or I will grow tits, lose my balls, and live as a shell of a person, a castrated person until I die!

Well… sign me up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202710)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 12:05 AM
Author: low-t kitty cat lodge

Aren't you goy? If so that's basically your purpose in this economy/"life".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47210648)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 11:30 AM
Author: Doobsian Skinny Woman

Real negative is that the exogenous T causes your heart to start growing in weird ways and you get a heart attack

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47201834)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 1:45 PM
Author: Balding spot community account

Only at massive doses, and good cardio / diet / supplementation (vitamin K2, etc. -- fleshlight tp has some 180 knowledge on this) makes the risk negligible against literally indescribably high upside

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202375)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 1:47 PM
Author: Doobsian Skinny Woman

Vitamin k2 isn't going to stop cardiomegaly lol. The threshold for heart growth to start causing problems is very low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202388)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 1:53 PM
Author: Balding spot community account

No, the rest of it (mostly cardio) will ameliorate that, and while the threshold for growth to cause problems is relatively low, the threshold of test for it to start growing abnormally is actually quite high. As long as your levels aren't exceeding like 2000 ng/dL you should be good.

The K2 is so your arteries don't harden as a result of cholesterol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202413)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:20 PM
Author: Doobsian Skinny Woman

There is no evidence for any of the ameliorative stuff, which is well studied. None of it used clinically to manage disease. LJL at citing fleshlight as an authority on anything except pretending not to be korean. There is very good evidence that heart tissue has preferential response to androgens at any dose which is why cardio training works so quickly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202551)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:25 PM
Author: Angry passionate indian lodge

If T is kept at physiologic levels, why would we expect these impacts? Have heard no such concerns from Peter Attia, who is usually hyper focused on long term risks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202590)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:30 PM
Author: Doobsian Skinny Woman

You're throwing a phat bolus of t into your bloodstream and all the receptors in your heart get the first cut at it, instead of a lifetime of t secretion from your own cells to a level which your body has very gradually acclimated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202618)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:55 PM
Author: Angry passionate indian lodge

I’m injecting sub Q 3x a week. Levels should be pretty constant and similar to where my levels were 10-15 years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202728)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 4:16 PM
Author: Balding spot community account

Lmao only applicable to test prop, which I agree has more risks than cyp or something else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202993)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:45 PM
Author: shivering haunting box office

is Peter Attia personally taking exogenous T?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202698)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 3:23 PM
Author: Angry passionate indian lodge

Not yet, but he is supervising patients and has said that the only thing holding him back is inconvenience of injecting multiple times a week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202816)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 4:29 PM
Author: Balding spot community account

There's absolutely evidence lmao.

1. Difference in enlarged hearts as an adaptation in endurance athletes, rather than pathological hypertrophic cardiomegaly, is that the heart develops vasculature proportionally as it enlarges in response to exercise. This vasculature doesn't develop when the heart is enlarged exclusively in response to androgens, likely because angiogenesis isn't stimulated without sustained cardiovascular load.

2. Pathological cardiomegaly results in lowers contractility, meaning the heart has to work harder, at a heavier weight, to pump the same blood.

3. With already developed vasculature and continuing cardio load/stimulation, the heart isn't likely to lose contractility. In other words, as long as there's high oxygen demand to stimulate angiogenesis, the heart's preference for androgens won't cause pathological growth because the growth will be accompanied by vasculature.

Bottom line: if you're in good cardio shape and jump on test at reasonable levels, you have nothing to worry about as long as you keep running; if you want to jump on but you're worried about heart problems, get in good cardio shape first and then keep at it once you jump on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47203029)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 8:02 PM
Author: Doobsian Skinny Woman

Dude you've gone from "juice doesn't make your heart grow" to "juice makes it grow but its ok because you can go jogging"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47207228)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 11:24 PM
Author: Balding spot community account

1. No, my position the entire time.has been that the risks are low, pathological growth is pretty rare without insane doses, and cardio ameliorates that anyway. You said there was no evidence for that and I gaped you.

2. Wanna try to discuss the physiology of it or are you gonna stick with "muh heart attack" without engaging with the question at all? This shit is not hard to understand, maybe look at the data.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47207845)



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Date: December 24th, 2023 5:14 PM
Author: Doobsian Skinny Woman

Your argument makes no sense. You are talking about how doing cardio doesn't hurt the heart because it vascularizes to match the growth induced by cardio. So how can cardio produce extra vascularization to match the androgen-induced growth?

Also keep in mind that when you talk about heart enlargement etc the hazard typically eventuates during crises and not every day life. So ppl can walk around ok 99% on juice but when they get cytomegalovirus or something else that would be survivable they have no risk ceiling because their heart is already plumped up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47209625)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 12:02 AM
Author: Balding spot community account

Because size is the limiting factor for angiogenesis, assuming cardio stimulus is present, so the vasculature will keep up.

Would love to hear how enlarged heart increases risk of CMV death lmao; the actual issues with an enlarged heart are primarily arrhythmia and lost of contractility in the left ventricle, leading to heart failure. Cardiomegaly doesn't cause either, it simply exacerbates them because the heart has to work harder, and it usually is only concerning to cardiologists as an indication of underlying problems.

Again, guys with healthy hearts and good cardio have nothing to worry about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47210643)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 12:27 PM
Author: shivering haunting box office

as someone who would consider TRT, i want to believe this. but aren't you taking a huge leap in #3? if androgens cause new heart growth, there is no reason to think that existing healthy athletic vasculature would save you from the pathological growth from TRT (which growth occurs without accompanying healthy vasculature)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47211512)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:31 PM
Author: Poppy territorial market coldplay fan

Add nattokinase

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202626)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 1:48 PM
Author: Doobsian Skinny Woman

TRT also turns you into a fag and at the least you will become obsessed with fucking trannies. You will have female mood swings and become suicidal - veterans blame TBI for this but it's the juice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202397)



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Date: December 24th, 2023 10:01 AM
Author: nighttime milk

He's already a poaster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47208457)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 2:37 AM
Author: ALZABO

This sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#49565935)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:10 PM
Author: Angry passionate indian lodge

I started in August and feel great. 120/week + HCG. Goal is to stay at high physiologic levels.

Went from being tired everyday with poor sleep to being pretty much filled with energy all the time. At same time, progress in weight training accelerated meaningfully.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202511)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 12:56 PM
Author: Bespoke curious site sweet tailpipe

Where are you getting the HCG?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47205920)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:32 PM
Author: Grizzly Step-uncle's House Filthpig

Emphasis on "cheat." Enjoy while it lasts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202630)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:39 PM
Author: Doobsian Skinny Woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202673)



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Date: December 22nd, 2023 2:46 PM
Author: shivering haunting box office

did you do it? it stopped working after a while?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47202701)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 8:15 AM
Author: Grizzly Step-uncle's House Filthpig

I did not do it but I lived with crashed T for ~18 months after my deployment and my doctor and I discussed it as an option and I did some research

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47205197)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 10:29 AM
Author: shivering haunting box office

ty. and yours came back naturally? did you take any otc supplements or do anything different to encourage it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47205440)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 12:17 PM
Author: Grizzly Step-uncle's House Filthpig

It has recovered to healthy levels but not to previous levels. Ashwaghanda seems to make a difference for me. I did not notice a difference with tongkat Ali or fadogia agrestis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47205761)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 12:56 PM
Author: shivering haunting box office

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47205921)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 11:40 AM
Author: Balding spot community account

TRT is 180 for olds and there's no reason not to. I'm going to hop on the second my bloodwork shows my levels are irrecoverably dying, and you should too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47205675)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 11:43 AM
Author: Abnormal point

No reason not to do it other than increased risk of heart attack and stroke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47205679)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 1:15 PM
Author: Balding spot community account

Only if you're in terrible cardio shape in the first place; those are a result of pathological cardiomegaly. See http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47203029 for a basic explanation, and https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109706018080 for an actual one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47206005)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 11:57 AM
Author: Sienna striped hyena range

I need to do this. My wife will be dead in a week though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47205705)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 12:03 PM
Author: spectacular school

How many pull-ups can you do? I take finasteride and will reconsider if I can no longer do 15

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47205718)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 1:16 PM
Author: Balding spot community account

36 without any TRT, will probably be at 50 before I jump on in 10 years

Get your blood work done, hop on if your levels are low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47206012)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 1:19 PM
Author: Balding spot community account

Fats, skinnyfats, and do-nothings who can't run five miles are itt whinging about "heart problems" when their current sedentary lifestyles and garbage diets are much more of a threat to their cardiovascular health or longevity than test ever would be, even at supernatural doses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47206022)



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Date: December 24th, 2023 5:25 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good yarmulke lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47208233)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 8:14 PM
Author: walnut parlor depressive

Anyone who is contemplating TRT and isn’t 50+ (at which point, why not) should take 6 months and see if this cocktail boosts your levels:

Ashwaghanda

Tongkat Ali

D3

Zinc

Boron

Shilajit

Creatine (doesn’t boost your T but better workouts will help you get there)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47207260)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 8:14 PM
Author: exciting pervert

been on for 10 plus years. seems fine overall. didn't know I was low t but was out of shape... doctor said won't hurt. now work out 5-6 days a week and have tons of energy. best part is you can get in amazing shape, esp compared to the average person your age.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47207261)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 11:26 PM
Author: Balding spot community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47207849)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 11:36 PM
Author: Jet nursing home

Can you do this with creams only?

I tried but gave up after a few weeks because I hate hate hate injecting myself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47207855)



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Date: December 24th, 2023 5:42 AM
Author: flushed athletic conference

how do you avoid the joe rogan/alex jones effect where your skull balloons out like a melon?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47208237)



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Date: December 24th, 2023 9:46 AM
Author: shivering haunting box office

i'm not an expert at all, but i thought this effect (see also barry bonds) was from HGH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47208433)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 1:23 AM
Author: Abnormal point

lol @ testmos convincing themselves that they won’t die early.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47210709)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 7:05 AM
Author: Balding spot community account

Hey, I noticed you didn't have any response here: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47206005



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47210947)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 9:43 AM
Author: vivacious area

I'd suggest correcting the lifestyle factors that are lowering your T before going to TRT because not correcting the lifestyle factors will ultimately hurt you in the long run, and the long term effects of TRT are generally not known. In addition, you do have to remain on it for life if you start.

People in the US have an extremely weird skewed view of what is "normal" for male aging. A lot of it has to do with the SAD diet and other lifestyle factors common in the US that completely decimate your health and body, including your T levels. People wrongly tend to blame "aging," but really it is about health. Low T before the age of 65-70 is often a sign that you need to make a change to your diet and lifestyle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47211169)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 10:18 AM
Author: Balding spot community account

You don't actually need to stay on it for life if you don't want -- you can just taper off and then PCT with something like enclomiphene for two weeks, and you're back where you started.

Absolutely MFCR on lifestyle and diet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47211246)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 1:41 PM
Author: shivering haunting box office

can you get enclomiphene from a licensed usa doctor/clinic, or is it a black market thing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47211691)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 4:16 PM
Author: nighttime milk

You can get it from a us doc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47211992)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 6:43 PM
Author: shivering haunting box office

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47212318)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 6:20 PM
Author: Poppy territorial market coldplay fan

Unfortunately if you’ve be been on TRT for a few years it will take well more than 2 weeks of enclomiphene and even a couple months at least of hcg amd hmg (very $$$) if you want to fully have functional and sperm producing balls with stable LH/FSH

I know this from irl experience with others, personally testing it and reading tons of publications on it - also enclomiphene is potentially carcinogenic like clomid long term and really elevates estrogen way more that they thought

Not shitting on your poast and yes enclomiphene is way more chill than suicide inducing clomid for pct it’s not a super chill easy process if you’ve been on it long term (1+ yr) and want to reset. It takes a while for LH FSH receptors to stabilize again after suppression they’re finding and the retards here thinking of getting on Trt Might think it’s just a simple chill process when they might be looking at months and tens of thousands in HMG injections to get back to previous normal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47212279)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 6:33 PM
Author: Balding spot community account

180 poast, tyft

My impression was based on the experience of two guys I know from the gym, one 40s and one 50s. Both said the returned to baseline inside a month, but I never saw their bloodwork so I'm going to assume they were probably wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47212306)



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Date: December 25th, 2023 6:43 PM
Author: shivering haunting box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5463677&forum_id=2#47212319)