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True or False: EV Infrastructure will be good enough in 2030 to justify an EV
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:05 PM Author: Flatulent shaky trust fund den Also, who will be first to market with a really good minivan EV? Also, are we just going to abandon EVs and go full on in on Hybrid tech? I am seeing new gas stations go up every week. |
Date: May 13th, 2024 1:09 PM Author: Curious sapphire elastic band kitchen for teslas the infrastructure is already there for most of the country people actually live in.
evs only make sense if you have at home charging anyway. the infrastructure is only good for long distance trips. and with a tesla that's not really a big deal in 2024. |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:10 PM Author: Flatulent shaky trust fund den So basically the tech will be Tesla branded EV and the rest of auto manufacturers' hybrids? I am really curious about this because I wonder if we are going to come to a point in like 15-20 years where it becomes disadvantageous to have an ICE. Or will that never happen? |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:18 PM Author: Curious sapphire elastic band kitchen probably not. there are already states that are beginning to force tesla to allow non-tesla vehicles to use their superchargers. i don't know what the state of charger access for non-tesla evs are generally, but i assume they'll catch up over time, both with their own charging stations, and tesla being forced to allow them to use theirs.
the only advantage an ICE has over an EV currently is that you don't need charging at home and can go on long distance trips much easier. i don't see how EVs will ever beat out ICEs when it comes to people who can't have access to home charging e.g. people who part on city streets. unless cities install tons of fucking ev chargers. and if battery and charging technology advances to the point where you can fill up an ev at the same speed as an ICE, then that'll solve both the home charging and distance problems.
but for a person that can have a home charger and only goes on 200+ mile trips occasionally, an EV is a complete no-brainer with the federal tax incentives. and most population centers are in lib areas with a lot of local and state incentives, which makes it an even easier decision. combine that with the maintenance costs being far less on an ev. if the government wasn't subsidizing EVs so much then it would be a harder decision if you're factoring in price. |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:13 PM Author: turquoise contagious school coffee pot i don't think EVs will ever make sense in america for anyone other than city commuters, who they are great for
they just don't work for people who live out in are country or the exurbs and who take regular weekend trips out of the city. adding more charging stations isn't going to solve the underlying issue of it being a huge pain in the ass and stress to have to worry about charging your car constantly |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:21 PM Author: Curious sapphire elastic band kitchen if you have an ev with a 200+ range it's not going to affect the exurb people much. most trips are going to be within that range round trip. and the ones where you have to charge will be balanced out by the fact that that's the *only* time you'll ever need to spend time filling up your car. i'll take one one 30min recharge on a long trip over spending 15min every week.
it's probably never make sense in are country under the current tech. |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:32 PM Author: turquoise contagious school coffee pot i'm skeptical that they actually have a 200+ mile range, taking into account elevation gain, idling, slowdowns etc
i might be wrong though i don't own an EV myself |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:34 PM Author: Curious sapphire elastic band kitchen i have a tesla and it is insanely accurate.
i have read that people in very cold climates have drastically reduced ranges and such. |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:38 PM Author: slap-happy sienna clown I don’t get people who try to “make sense” of car trends.
In what universe does it make sense for suburban dads with white collar to buy pickup trucks for no practical utility? And yet, this is America for the last 15 years |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:39 PM Author: turquoise contagious school coffee pot the 'utility' is status, mr. autismo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47657968) |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:23 PM Author: Galvanic aqua newt No, EV is a scam only justified by massive subsidies, and the cost isn’t coming down very much
It may make sense because globohomo will force a transition regardless |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:26 PM Author: Curious sapphire elastic band kitchen it seems like you meant to say "yes, but only because it's a scam justified by massive subsidies" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47657930) |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:27 PM Author: Galvanic aqua newt 2030 seems early (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47657931) |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:28 PM Author: Curious sapphire elastic band kitchen in 2024 it makes sense for most people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47657932) |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:31 PM Author: turquoise contagious school coffee pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47657940) |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:33 PM Author: Diverse Mad Cow Disease Stage An EV is a perfect second car and you don't need "infrastructure" for it to work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47657943) |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:36 PM Author: Flatulent shaky trust fund den I have a wife and kids and we need both cars to be ICE. Maybe things will start to change for us in the mid 2030s. I won't worry about it until then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47657954) |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:37 PM Author: Diverse Mad Cow Disease Stage Do you both routinely drive more than 100 miles a day? If not, your second car should be an EV. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47657957) |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:45 PM Author: Flatulent shaky trust fund den No, I drive about 7 miles a day if you average it all out. Maybe slightly less. My wife drives about 12-15 miles per day on average. So total we drive about 8,000 miles per year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47657984) |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 4:41 PM Author: Diverse Mad Cow Disease Stage Brother get an EV as a second car. It is amazing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47658610) |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:34 PM Author: slap-happy sienna clown Depends if Trump wins. He’s publicly sabotaging EV adoption already, but once the policy arm of the GOP gets their way, it will be all in on big dumb trucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47657946) |
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Date: May 13th, 2024 3:38 PM Author: judgmental odious kitty you can literally purchase a 2008 Ford ranger with 75k miles for $14 grand *right now* and you're talking about "evs" ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528069&forum_id=2#47658364) |