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Most underrated Led Zeppelin song?

enjoying the other thread about the worst one my vote for t...
avocado gas station
  08/20/18
In the Light, but No Quarter is a credited choice too
overrated saffron voyeur
  08/20/18
that shit Netflix show Mindhunter used In The Light at the e...
avocado gas station
  08/20/18
the acting was really shitty (the main guy lmao) but the sub...
Chrome big gaping
  08/20/18
NQ is not underrated, it's properly rated in the god-tier
Chrome big gaping
  08/20/18
...
Cerebral plaza
  08/21/18
Trampled Underfoot
Brindle swashbuckling principal's office
  08/20/18
such a cool riff
overrated saffron voyeur
  08/20/18
not underrated. on the radio constantly.
Cerebral plaza
  08/21/18
That's the Way is very chill
Chrome big gaping
  08/20/18
yeah, also Down By The Seaside
salmon galvanic stag film people who are hurt
  11/15/18
Over the Hills
contagious brethren trailer park
  08/20/18
wtf everyone loves this song. fun to play on guitar too
Chrome big gaping
  08/20/18
Underrated because it's not universally recognized as their ...
contagious brethren trailer park
  08/20/18
it's not GOATUS, stop before you embarrass yourself
Chrome big gaping
  08/20/18
"In the Light" is probably their most underrated.
cheese-eating tan heaven
  08/20/18
hard to pick. most of their songs suck.
Mentally impaired multi-colored shitlib
  08/20/18
lol'd
Chocolate Hateful Macaca
  08/20/18
you gunning for gayest poaster or what?
avocado gas station
  08/20/18
pretty sure i've got that one in the bag.
Mentally impaired multi-colored shitlib
  08/20/18
"John Paul Jones named me faggot of the week again :(&q...
Vigorous love of her life rigpig
  09/20/18
"And the Andrew Dooberstein XOXO Heal Award for 2018 go...
translucent university private investor
  11/16/18
Cr answer for someone who sucks at music
Razzle-dazzle chest-beating feces
  08/21/18
four sticks
Chocolate Hateful Macaca
  08/20/18
...
overrated saffron voyeur
  08/21/18
Misty Mountain Hop
stimulating box office
  08/21/18
Tangerine
spectacular green mood
  08/21/18
...
aphrodisiac faggot firefighter haunted graveyard
  11/15/18
Too much airplay to be underrated
translucent university private investor
  11/16/18
white summer/black mountainside bron-yr-aur stomp ten year...
Cerebral plaza
  08/21/18
bron-yr-aur stomp
dull weed whacker
  08/21/18
love that song
sexy outnumbered sweet tailpipe
  10/15/18
They wrote it about their dog Strider.
Laughsome Step-uncle's House Useless Brakes
  11/15/18
yeah, 10 years gone...
salmon galvanic stag film people who are hurt
  11/15/18
heartbreaker
Excitant awkward point
  08/21/18
also constantly on the radio, not underrated
Cerebral plaza
  08/21/18
The rover
Razzle-dazzle chest-beating feces
  08/21/18
decent choice
Cerebral plaza
  08/21/18
...
poppy meetinghouse
  08/21/18
...
razzmatazz theater telephone
  11/03/18
...
Filthy very tactful main people
  11/15/18
Out on the Tiles
claret brunch
  09/20/18
Lemon Song Tangerine That's The Way
Nofapping disrespectful becky
  09/20/18
I like the Mordor one--I know people think its dorky but I l...
Slap-happy crusty toaster
  09/20/18
Ramble On? not really underrated Battle of Evermore also h...
avocado gas station
  09/20/18
They opened the Page/Plant Tour in 95 with Ramble On. Amazin...
translucent university private investor
  11/16/18
No Quarter When the Levee Breaks Boogie with Stu
Wonderful indirect expression
  09/20/18
I think WTLB is pretty highly rated. Boogie with Stu is a f...
Vigorous love of her life rigpig
  09/20/18
Houses of the Holy The Rain Song
Vigorous love of her life rigpig
  09/20/18
these are universally beloved dipshit
Chrome big gaping
  07/09/25
Tea for One. In fact a good chunk of presence is underrat...
bearded famous landscape painting office
  10/15/18
Kashmir. It's usually regarded as as great song. Reality is ...
Sticky Corner
  10/15/18
Since I’ve Been Lovin’ You
Splenetic Arousing Senate
  10/15/18
this is the correct answer btw
Chrome big gaping
  11/04/18
It's in every Jimmy Page fan's top 5 list. Not understand.
effete lake goyim parlour
  11/15/18
📶☁️👼
mischievous frum forum associate
  10/15/18
Achilles last stand, you never hear it on the radio and it's...
aqua maniacal house place of business
  10/15/18
180 song
buck-toothed slate cuck lay
  10/15/18
...
Mahogany Police Squad Dilemma
  11/03/18
it's zep's true magnum opus.
Cerebral plaza
  11/04/18
this
translucent university private investor
  11/15/18
based
Chrome big gaping
  07/09/25
...
Filthy very tactful main people
  07/09/25
not most underrated but people trash Southbound Suarez but i...
buck-toothed slate cuck lay
  10/15/18
Highway Tune
sexy outnumbered sweet tailpipe
  10/15/18
Over the Hills
Wine National Quadroon
  10/15/18
I’m gonna crawl
claret brunch
  11/03/18
...
effete lake goyim parlour
  11/15/18
In the Light got a fair amount of hate but it's 180 trillion...
Mahogany Police Squad Dilemma
  11/03/18
gallows pole doesn't get enough love either
Cerebral plaza
  11/04/18
In the light is 180 as fuck. Also, white summer: https://...
pink bossy marketing idea
  11/04/18
Traveling Riverside Blues and it's not even close https:...
Floppy henna knife school cafeteria
  11/15/18
Here's my list of underrated Sep: Friends Gallows pole ...
pearl mind-boggling water buffalo therapy
  11/15/18
Hey Hey What can I do
translucent university private investor
  11/15/18
How many more times is a great Zeppelin song that is underra...
Laughsome Step-uncle's House Useless Brakes
  11/16/18
satisfaction
Nofapping disrespectful becky
  11/16/18
The Wanton song. I don't think it's that highly rated, but e...
Territorial organic girlfriend
  07/09/25


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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: avocado gas station

enjoying the other thread about the worst one

my vote for this category is the haunting No Quarter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu94mWlgzMY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650112)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: overrated saffron voyeur

In the Light, but No Quarter is a credited choice too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650121)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: avocado gas station

that shit Netflix show Mindhunter used In The Light at the end of the finale and I was like wtf, only good thing about this show

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650131)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Chrome big gaping

the acting was really shitty (the main guy lmao) but the subject matter was good enough for me to finish the season and, like you say, the appearance of In The Light was very cr. i prob wont bother with season 2 tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650197)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Chrome big gaping

NQ is not underrated, it's properly rated in the god-tier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650124)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:34 AM
Author: Cerebral plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654664)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: Brindle swashbuckling principal's office

Trampled Underfoot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650129)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: overrated saffron voyeur

such a cool riff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650170)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: Cerebral plaza

not underrated. on the radio constantly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654666)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: Chrome big gaping

That's the Way is very chill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650140)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: salmon galvanic stag film people who are hurt

yeah, also Down By The Seaside

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37241329)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: contagious brethren trailer park

Over the Hills

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650142)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: Chrome big gaping

wtf everyone loves this song. fun to play on guitar too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650148)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: contagious brethren trailer park

Underrated because it's not universally recognized as their GOATUS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650165)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Chrome big gaping

it's not GOATUS, stop before you embarrass yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650201)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: cheese-eating tan heaven

"In the Light" is probably their most underrated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650182)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Mentally impaired multi-colored shitlib

hard to pick. most of their songs suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650190)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Chocolate Hateful Macaca

lol'd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650192)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: avocado gas station

you gunning for gayest poaster or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650194)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Mentally impaired multi-colored shitlib

pretty sure i've got that one in the bag.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650200)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: Vigorous love of her life rigpig

"John Paul Jones named me faggot of the week again :("

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36847812)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 6:17 AM
Author: translucent university private investor

"And the Andrew Dooberstein XOXO Heal Award for 2018 goes to, no surprise here gooks and incels, DUPA!!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37243541)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating feces

Cr answer for someone who sucks at music

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654672)



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Date: August 20th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Chocolate Hateful Macaca

four sticks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36650206)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:08 AM
Author: overrated saffron voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654514)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: stimulating box office

Misty Mountain Hop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654521)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: spectacular green mood

Tangerine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654536)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: aphrodisiac faggot firefighter haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37241310)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 6:19 AM
Author: translucent university private investor

Too much airplay to be underrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37243543)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:27 AM
Author: Cerebral plaza

white summer/black mountainside

bron-yr-aur stomp

ten years gone

sick again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654607)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: dull weed whacker

bron-yr-aur stomp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654670)



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Date: October 15th, 2018 10:47 PM
Author: sexy outnumbered sweet tailpipe

love that song

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37031691)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Laughsome Step-uncle's House Useless Brakes

They wrote it about their dog Strider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37241453)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: salmon galvanic stag film people who are hurt

yeah, 10 years gone...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37241345)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: Excitant awkward point

heartbreaker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654628)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: Cerebral plaza

also constantly on the radio, not underrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654668)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating feces

The rover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654675)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:38 AM
Author: Cerebral plaza

decent choice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654688)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: poppy meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36654830)



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Date: November 3rd, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: razzmatazz theater telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37153872)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Filthy very tactful main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37240961)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 10:03 AM
Author: claret brunch

Out on the Tiles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36847627)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 10:04 AM
Author: Nofapping disrespectful becky

Lemon Song

Tangerine

That's The Way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36847634)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 10:04 AM
Author: Slap-happy crusty toaster

I like the Mordor one--I know people think its dorky but I like it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36847640)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 10:06 AM
Author: avocado gas station

Ramble On? not really underrated

Battle of Evermore also has a line about ringwraiths

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36847654)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 6:18 AM
Author: translucent university private investor

They opened the Page/Plant Tour in 95 with Ramble On. Amazing set

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37243542)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: Wonderful indirect expression

No Quarter

When the Levee Breaks

Boogie with Stu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36847678)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: Vigorous love of her life rigpig

I think WTLB is pretty highly rated. Boogie with Stu is a fun song and I agree overlooked.

Stu (the piano player) is one of the original Rolling Stones who was kicked out of the band for being, not flame, too ugly, and became their road manager. He still played piano parts on many RS records but wasn't allowed on stage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36847810)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 10:32 AM
Author: Vigorous love of her life rigpig

Houses of the Holy

The Rain Song

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#36847804)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: Chrome big gaping

these are universally beloved dipshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#49088174)



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Date: October 15th, 2018 10:36 PM
Author: bearded famous landscape painting office

Tea for One.

In fact a good chunk of presence is underrated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37031620)



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Date: October 15th, 2018 10:41 PM
Author: Sticky Corner

Kashmir. It's usually regarded as as great song. Reality is that it's one of the very best rock songs ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37031651)



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Date: October 15th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Splenetic Arousing Senate

Since I’ve Been Lovin’ You

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37031666)



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Date: November 4th, 2018 12:41 AM
Author: Chrome big gaping

this is the correct answer btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37154101)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 9:54 PM
Author: effete lake goyim parlour

It's in every Jimmy Page fan's top 5 list. Not understand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37242296)



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Date: October 15th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: mischievous frum forum associate

📶☁️👼

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37031668)



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Date: October 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: aqua maniacal house place of business

Achilles last stand, you never hear it on the radio and it's easily a top 3 song

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37031685)



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Date: October 15th, 2018 10:47 PM
Author: buck-toothed slate cuck lay

180 song

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37031689)



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Date: November 3rd, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: Mahogany Police Squad Dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37153899)



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Date: November 4th, 2018 12:34 AM
Author: Cerebral plaza

it's zep's true magnum opus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37154079)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 9:31 PM
Author: translucent university private investor

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37242138)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: Chrome big gaping

based

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#49088171)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: Filthy very tactful main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#49088183)



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Date: October 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: buck-toothed slate cuck lay

not most underrated but people trash Southbound Suarez but it's a fun catchy party song

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37031686)



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Date: October 15th, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: sexy outnumbered sweet tailpipe

Highway Tune

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37031698)



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Date: October 15th, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: Wine National Quadroon

Over the Hills

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37031707)



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Date: November 3rd, 2018 11:27 PM
Author: claret brunch

I’m gonna crawl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37153867)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 9:52 PM
Author: effete lake goyim parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37242286)



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Date: November 3rd, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: Mahogany Police Squad Dilemma

In the Light got a fair amount of hate but it's 180 trillion and one of my favorite Zeppelin songs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37153898)



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Date: November 4th, 2018 12:35 AM
Author: Cerebral plaza

gallows pole doesn't get enough love either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37154082)



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Date: November 4th, 2018 12:40 AM
Author: pink bossy marketing idea

In the light is 180 as fuck.

Also, white summer: https://youtu.be/LKPNkINFo9U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37154100)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 6:46 PM
Author: Floppy henna knife school cafeteria

Traveling Riverside Blues and it's not even close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kynj_fzx2EI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37240956)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: pearl mind-boggling water buffalo therapy

Here's my list of underrated Sep:

Friends

Gallows pole

Nobody's fault but mine

Is Achilles last stand underrated? I think so. Never gets played cuz do long. Anyone's who has heard it loves it tho.

Hats off to Roy Harper

Weird in that the Most played songs for zep are some of their worst. Black dog I'm looking at you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4056356&forum_id=2#37241241)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 9:32 PM
Author: translucent university private investor

Hey Hey What can I do

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Date: November 16th, 2018 6:15 AM
Author: Laughsome Step-uncle's House Useless Brakes

How many more times is a great Zeppelin song that is underrated because it is one of the five greatest Zeppelin songs. I would almost include traveling Riverside Blues among the five greatest, but I wouldn't call it underrated because most everyone likes it a lot.

That's the way is it good song that is underrated because it is a great song. The same can be said of in the light.

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Date: November 16th, 2018 6:20 AM
Author: Nofapping disrespectful becky

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Date: July 9th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Territorial organic girlfriend

The Wanton song. I don't think it's that highly rated, but excellent rhythm/groove.

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