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NYT: The Secrets of Jewish Genius (Bret Stephens)

lmao holy shit here we go! The Secrets of Jewish Genius ...
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Aside from the perennial nature-or-nurture question of why s...
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I believe there was actually a final solution to this questi...
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Such bracing originality! Such high-minded purpose!
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He is right it's not just about high IQ. There's also hi...
Nighttime Roommate
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honestly I think it's just that goyim were slacking: they we...
Alcoholic Grizzly Business Firm
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Due to intermarriage Jews are not as smart, curious and driv...
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(Hymie Finkelblatt)
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The common answer is that Jews are, or tend to be, smart. Wh...
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Hyperventilating pocket flask
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I despise bret stephens but this is extremely alpha trolling...
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"At its best, the United States can still be the countr...
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harsh territorial idea he suggested
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as a reptile he's trying to drive a wedge between jews and l...
Azure Indian Lodge
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While giving the far right even more ammo that Jews don't co...
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180 trolling. Look at the comments. Ljl.
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also, it could not have been a good article
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It’s called white genocide
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Date: December 28th, 2019 12:14 AM
Author: Mind-boggling buff theater

lmao holy shit here we go!

The Secrets of Jewish Genius

It’s not about having higher I.Q.s.

Bret Stephens

By Bret Stephens

Opinion Columnist

Dec. 27, 2019

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Albert Einstein at home in Princeton, N.J.

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An eminent Lithuanian rabbi is annoyed that his yeshiva students devote their lunch breaks to playing soccer instead of discussing Torah. The students, intent on convincing their rav of the game’s beauty, invite him to watch a professional match. At halftime, they ask what he thinks.

“I have solved your problem,” the rabbi says.

“How?”

“Give one ball to each side, and they will have nothing to fight over.”

I have this (apocryphal) anecdote from Norman Lebrecht’s new book, “Genius & Anxiety,” an erudite and delightful study of the intellectual achievements and nerve-wracked lives of Jewish thinkers, artists, and entrepreneurs between 1847 and 1947. Sarah Bernhardt and Franz Kafka; Albert Einstein and Rosalind Franklin; Benjamin Disraeli and (sigh) Karl Marx — how is it that a people who never amounted even to one-third of 1 percent of the world’s population contributed so seminally to so many of its most pathbreaking ideas and innovations?

The common answer is that Jews are, or tend to be, smart. When it comes to Ashkenazi Jews, it’s true. “Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average I.Q. of any ethnic group for which there are reliable data,” noted one 2005 paper. “During the 20th century, they made up about 3 percent of the U.S. population but won 27 percent of the U.S. Nobel science prizes and 25 percent of the ACM Turing awards. They account for more than half of world chess champions.”

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But the “Jews are smart” explanation obscures more than it illuminates. Aside from the perennial nature-or-nurture question of why so many Ashkenazi Jews have higher I.Q.s, there is the more difficult question of why that intelligence was so often matched by such bracing originality and high-minded purpose. One can apply a prodigious intellect in the service of prosaic things — formulating a war plan, for instance, or constructing a ship. One can also apply brilliance in the service of a mistake or a crime, like managing a planned economy or robbing a bank.

But as the story of the Lithuanian rabbi suggests, Jewish genius operates differently. It is prone to question the premise and rethink the concept; to ask why (or why not?) as often as how; to see the absurd in the mundane and the sublime in the absurd. Ashkenazi Jews might have a marginal advantage over their gentile peers when it comes to thinking better. Where their advantage more often lies is in thinking different.

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Where do these habits of mind come from?

There is a religious tradition that, unlike some others, asks the believer not only to observe and obey but also to discuss and disagree. There is the never-quite-comfortable status of Jews in places where they are the minority — intimately familiar with the customs of the country while maintaining a critical distance from them. There is a moral belief, “incarnate in the Jewish people” according to Einstein, that “the life of the individual only has value [insofar] as it aids in making the life of every living thing nobler and more beautiful.”

And there is the understanding, born of repeated exile, that everything that seems solid and valuable is ultimately perishable, while everything that is intangible — knowledge most of all — is potentially everlasting.

“We had been well off, but that was all we got out,” the late financier Felix Rohatyn recalled of his narrow escape, with a few hidden gold coins, from the Nazis as a child in World War II. “Ever since, I’ve had the feeling that the only permanent wealth is what you carry around in your head.” If the greatest Jewish minds seem to have no walls, it may be because, for Jews, the walls have so often come tumbling down.

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These explanations for Jewish brilliance aren’t necessarily definitive. Nor are they exclusive to the Jews.

At its best, the American university can still be a place of relentless intellectual challenge rather than ideological conformity and social groupthink. At its best, the United States can still be the country that respects, and sometimes rewards, all manner of heresies that outrage polite society and contradict established belief. At its best, the West can honor the principle of racial, religious and ethnic pluralism not as a grudging accommodation to strangers but as an affirmation of its own diverse identity. In that sense, what makes Jews special is that they aren’t. They are representational.

The West, however, is not at its best. It’s no surprise that Jew hatred has made a comeback, albeit under new guises. Anti-Zionism has taken the place of anti-Semitism as a political program directed against Jews. Globalists have taken the place of rootless cosmopolitans as the shadowy agents of economic iniquity. Jews have been murdered by white nationalists and black “Hebrews.” Hate crimes against Orthodox Jews have become an almost daily fact of life in New York City.

Jews of the late 19th century would have been familiar with the hatreds. Jews of the early 21st century should recognize where they could lead. What’s not secret about Jewish genius is that it’s a terribly fragile flower.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/opinion/jewish-culture-genius-iq.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39337756)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 12:27 AM
Author: Racy deranged boltzmann

“There is the never-quite-comfortable status of Jews in places where they are the minority — intimately familiar with the customs of the country while maintaining a critical distance from them.”

But see: https://www.timesofisrael.com/congress-is-now-three-times-as-jewish-as-the-us-is/

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/No18-Ruth-Bader-Ginsburg-Stephen-Breyer-and-Elena-Kagan-602837

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39337805)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 12:30 AM
Author: fragrant heaven

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39337819)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 7:51 AM
Author: Hyperventilating pocket flask



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Date: December 28th, 2019 4:42 PM
Author: Provocative disgusting coldplay fan



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Date: December 28th, 2019 12:30 AM
Author: Mind-boggling buff theater

Aside from the perennial nature-or-nurture question of why so many Ashkenazi Jews have higher I.Q.s, there is the more difficult question of why that intelligence was so often matched by such bracing originality and high-minded purpose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39337821)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 12:33 AM
Author: Histrionic maniacal brethren

I believe there was actually a final solution to this question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39337835)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:22 PM
Author: aqua multi-colored menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339698)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 10:28 AM
Author: Mind-boggling buff theater

Such bracing originality! Such high-minded purpose!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338826)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:12 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Feces Ceo

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339634)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 12:47 AM
Author: Abusive Lemon Round Eye Library

Wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39337878)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 12:50 AM
Author: Laughsome awkward yarmulke factory reset button

Lmaoooooo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39337884)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 12:58 AM
Author: Nighttime Roommate

He is right it's not just about high IQ.

There's also high curiosity. The part about being prone to question and rethink premises.

He's missing a third element. Jews have really high achievement motivation.

There's more but I think that's the big 3.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39337925)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 3:32 AM
Author: Alcoholic Grizzly Business Firm

honestly I think it's just that goyim were slacking: they weren't very engaged with the fields that jews achieved in, but now they are. it explains the recent decline of jewish genius to a place more in line with their IQ levels, though cultural factors could be part of it as well. assimilation made it too easy to be a money jew instead of a book jew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338167)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 5:20 AM
Author: Nighttime Roommate

Due to intermarriage Jews are not as smart, curious and driven as before.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338244)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 5:50 AM
Author: Exciting Mother

(Hymie Finkelblatt)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338256)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 6:09 AM
Author: peach vivacious university potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338260)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:22 PM
Author: aqua multi-colored menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339703)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:39 PM
Author: Frozen Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339797)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:29 AM
Author: Misunderstood multi-billionaire

The common answer is that Jews are, or tend to be, smart. When it comes to Ashkenazi Jews, it’s true. “Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average I.Q. of any ethnic group for which there are reliable data,” noted one 2005 paper.

Um, excuse me, libs? I thought the whole Race and IQ thing was "racist pseudoscience"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338020)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 7:53 AM
Author: Hyperventilating pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338348)



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Date: December 29th, 2019 9:03 AM
Author: Provocative disgusting coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39343864)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 2:26 AM
Author: Wonderful twinkling uncleanness

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1210814155038445570.html?refreshed=yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338086)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 6:31 AM
Author: Azure Indian Lodge

I despise bret stephens but this is extremely alpha trolling on his part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338268)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 7:13 AM
Author: Green stage



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Date: December 28th, 2019 3:18 AM
Author: Alcoholic Grizzly Business Firm

"At its best, the United States can still be the country that respects, and sometimes rewards, all manner of heresies that outrage polite society and contradict established belief."

I like this part but I don't think stephens would if he thought it through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338159)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 7:31 AM
Author: electric spruce school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338323)



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Date: December 29th, 2019 9:17 AM
Author: harsh territorial idea he suggested



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Date: December 28th, 2019 7:10 AM
Author: ruby giraffe telephone

What an idiot. This is what we say in private, not in front of the goyim!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338299)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 7:21 AM
Author: Azure Indian Lodge

as a reptile he's trying to drive a wedge between jews and leftists. makes perfect sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338309)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 7:23 AM
Author: ruby giraffe telephone

While giving the far right even more ammo that Jews don't consider themselves American. Oh, what a strategist!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338314)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 10:29 AM
Author: Out-of-control Goal In Life Haunted Graveyard

lol the comment section is going nuts over the IQ citation

fav quote so far

"It highlights European contributions to culture and scholarship while invisibilizing Mizrahi Jewish communities."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338829)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 10:45 AM
Author: Mind-boggling buff theater

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338887)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 11:53 AM
Author: Odious nursing home

So many Anti-Semites refusing to acknowledge Ashkenazi Jewish Supremacy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339192)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:23 PM
Author: aqua multi-colored menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339711)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:38 PM
Author: Frozen Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339793)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 4:43 PM
Author: Provocative disgusting coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39340696)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 10:37 AM
Author: wine cuckold

180 trolling. Look at the comments. Ljl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338858)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 10:39 AM
Author: adventurous bat-shit-crazy casino idiot

this could have been a good article. but instead he wrote like a lazy kike late on a deadline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338869)



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Date: December 29th, 2019 9:17 AM
Author: Massive rigor

also, it could not have been a good article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39343888)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 10:44 AM
Author: Mentally impaired comical pit queen of the night

It's weird, but I can feel it in my mind. There is a Jewish outlook or type of thinking in a sense. I think it's something we inherit. But it is like...it's hard to describe but you can look at something, a situation, a person, an economic system, a performer, anything, you immediately break it down into finer elements, analyze it down to core components, figure out how it is built, why it operates the way it does and what makes it tick. It's like a mental reverse engineering that happens in seconds and we can do it as if we were programmed robots.

This is a Jewish ability I've not a clue as to why we have. However, something this powerful can be used for good and evil. Jews have used it to cure polio and to perpetrate Madoff like schemes.

Like anything, it comes down to how you use it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39338883)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:21 PM
Author: frum reading party

Actually lol'd at this post

He's still got it folks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339694)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:21 PM
Author: electric spruce school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339695)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:23 PM
Author: aqua multi-colored menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339705)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:26 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Feces Ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339724)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:38 PM
Author: Frozen Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339790)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 2:45 PM
Author: Mentally impaired comical pit queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39340234)



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Date: December 29th, 2019 2:16 AM
Author: Provocative disgusting coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39343440)



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Date: December 29th, 2019 9:13 AM
Author: Massive rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39343880)



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Date: December 29th, 2019 9:19 AM
Author: harsh territorial idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39343890)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 1:35 PM
Author: Ungodly private investor

I think there is a distinct jew drive to never be satisfied, to keep trying to fuck over others long after enough money and resources have already been attained.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39339779)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 11:49 PM
Author: Canary razzle-dazzle location crotch

It’s called white genocide

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39342824)



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Date: December 28th, 2019 11:45 PM
Author: Laughsome awkward yarmulke factory reset button



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Date: December 28th, 2019 11:48 PM
Author: citrine razzmatazz chad community account

that was the most pretentious thing I've ever read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39342814)



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Date: December 29th, 2019 2:19 AM
Author: milky athletic conference

i refuse to read this article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39343449)



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Date: December 29th, 2019 9:13 AM
Author: Massive rigor

if jews are so smart why is stephens retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39343881)



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Date: December 29th, 2019 9:35 AM
Author: pearl weed whacker nowag

Jews are too high IQ and must be eradicated!

Blacks are too low IQ and must be eliminated!

-xo poa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39343920)



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Date: December 29th, 2019 3:24 PM
Author: Wonderful twinkling uncleanness

Bret Stephens’ latest column, which argues that culture and history drive Jewish achievements, has been edited to remove a reference to a paper widely disputed as advancing a racist hypothesis. We’ve added the following editors’ note to the column.

https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1211378700069023744?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4409742&forum_id=2#39345336)