My law "mentor" of 10 years has utterly dicked me over
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Date: December 14th, 2020 12:31 PM Author: bonkers legend
I was with my main boss for 10 years, and despite some complaints I had about my job, he was a good friend and mentor. I helped him with some personal things, even went to his house to help with stuff, and I helped him a lot with a lot of internal firm issues (employees, hiring people, etc, I even hosted a bunch of people at my HOUSE for a Christmas party for co-workers) that came up and made his life a ton easier. When I left firm last February, he was pretty pissed - I think he expected me to be his heir apparent at the firm. He didn't go to my going away lunch, for example.
Since then I still forward him court filings and stuff on cases where my email address still gets notice, have exchanged a few "hope you are well" emails.
Had a case come up recently that had some really weird fact patterns, and I needed help. 11 days ago, I sent my old boss an email asking if I could have a little of his time to discuss the case. He would have been the perfect person to help me on this one, just answering a few questions. No response. Luckily I since settled the case. Today, he sends me some bitchy response about how December is his busiest month, that I am well trained to handle matters like this, and that if I still need help he can take a short call after 6pm on several days this week. Sure he finally "offered to help" but it was a shitty response and intentionally way too late (I told him in the email when my trial date was, which was literally today, which makes this response even shittier).
Really steaming over this. Also another senior partner who I was on good terms with, who repeatedly checked in on me since I left the firm and offered to help if I ever needed it, also ignored several of my voicemails and emails for assistance.
Sucks to be alone out there, getting dicked by people you trusted and did a lot for yourself.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4712326&forum_id=2#41545683) |
Date: December 14th, 2020 12:54 PM Author: bateful giraffe institution
You're no longer making money for them.
Thus, you aren't a priority for them.
It sucks, but that's how the profession goes.
Once we leave our respective Pimps and ain't walkin' that stroll anymore, they DGAF about us anymore.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4712326&forum_id=2#41545842) |
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Date: December 14th, 2020 1:04 PM Author: bateful giraffe institution
I'm assuming he's either a Boomer or at least a GenX.
They have a different mindset on employment.
In their minds, you don't leave your employer unless fired or conditions have become impossible for you to remain.
The idea of you leaving so that you can be your own man and build your own practice is an insult to them.
HOW DARE HE LEAVE THIS GENEROUS SALARY WE'VE GIVEN HIM! Does he know how many lawyers would KILL to get paid what we're giving him!?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4712326&forum_id=2#41545937) |
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Date: December 14th, 2020 1:06 PM Author: bonkers legend
boomer, but yeah I think its like this.
He had a paralegal of like 20 years who left for a higher paying gig and better benefits, she was with him since he was a solo himself. He was friends with her and her husband, did social events together.
He wouldn't speak to her again after she gave her notice.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4712326&forum_id=2#41545948) |
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Date: December 15th, 2020 4:19 PM Author: bateful giraffe institution
We're talking about Boomers here.
They don't see a former employee as a "colleague"
He views OP as an arrogant little shit who thinks he's too good to work for him anymore.
He has no interest in helping if it doesn't put money back in his own pocket.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4712326&forum_id=2#41554332) |
Date: December 14th, 2020 1:21 PM Author: Learning disabled excitant parlor
You learn a lot about people when you make a decision that hurts them financially. Your mentor was not donating his time helping you when you worked for him. He was training an employee and protecting his own bottom line.
Your employer is not your friend. Law is unfortunately a profession where this truth gets personal because you work closely with people and every firm is selling some "firm culture" "we're family" bullshit line that makes everyone feel better.
Ask any lawyer that has lateraled and you'll hear stories about how their former partners fucked them over. Denied them bonuses, delayed partnership draws firm-wide to cut them out based on departure date, sued them for stealing clients, etc.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4712326&forum_id=2#41546069) |
Date: December 14th, 2020 1:29 PM Author: curious big-titted state
Aren't you literally competing with him? Same city and everything? Why would you ask him for anything lol. If that's somehow not the case - you went solo and had/have like, No Clients. He should be a bro and refer you some cases, even if the fee split favours him.
Anyway, NEVER enter into an interaction with a boomer from a position of weakness, they will instinctively wreck you. Always negotiate from a position of strength or, preferably, avoid contact at all costs. They will kiss up to whomever has power and savagely destroy the weak without thinking twice.
Really though, boomers like when you beat around the bush moreso than going to them directly asking for something. Boomers are hard-wired to see Someone Asking for Something as a pathogen for them to attack. It would be different if you were talking regularly and just happened to complain about the case - then ball is in his court to volunteer his Expertise, and it lets him feel magnanimous if he decides to. If you ask any boomer for anything, ever, the immediate response is, "this fuckin guy, wow, the nerve!" You should already know this imho. And they say I'm autistic smh.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4712326&forum_id=2#41546104) |
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Date: December 15th, 2020 12:54 PM Author: aphrodisiac magenta hospital voyeur
God damn cowgod's poast gave me PTSD. He would be AWOL for days/weeks at a time. Ostensibly "traveling all over the state representing the clients," which 100% wasn't true because he would always use the company credit card getting gas/fast food/liquor store which were always by his 2nd house. He called himself "the road warrior" several times.
If I had a CLE and had to take a day off I'd ask him to cover a client call and it was like pulling fucking teeth."I DONT HAVE THE [paper] FILE!" And he'd always call me immediately after and tell me the client wants to talk to him more than me. Also not true because back then all of our clients were personal friends/family members of mine.
Boomers are the worst.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4712326&forum_id=2#41552746) |
Date: December 15th, 2020 2:12 AM Author: scarlet wrinkle
"When I left firm last February, he was pretty pissed - I think he expected me to be his heir apparent at the firm."
Bro, how do you think he saw this? He surely viewed you leaving as a huge betrayal -- you were personally tight, he'd been grooming you to take his job, and then you bail? Yeah, no fucking shit he doesn't like you like that anymore.
If you're not interested in being his protege, fine, but don't expect him to still treat you like you are, now that you work for someone else lol.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4712326&forum_id=2#41550540) |
Date: December 15th, 2020 2:33 AM Author: plum theater stage new version
"Sucks to be alone out there, getting dicked by people you trusted and did a lot for yourself."
Im not sure your expectations in this situation were realistic.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4712326&forum_id=2#41550593) |
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