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UMass Professor: Biden needs to implement price controls to curb inflation

https://www.theguardian.com/business/commentisfree/2021/dec/...
Orange voyeur knife
  12/31/21
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vigorous den gay wizard
  12/31/21
Holy shit
excitant masturbator
  12/31/21
They’re freaking out
Orange voyeur knife
  12/31/21
they're gigafuckt.
Fragrant Field Windowlicker
  12/31/21
i'm dumb when it comes to shit like this, can u unpack how t...
zombie-like sooty doctorate milk
  12/31/21
nah...you're not dumb. just think about it in context: we k...
Fragrant Field Windowlicker
  12/31/21
will work great just like in venezuela step 1: price cont...
shaky rough-skinned garrison
  01/03/22
they went pretty quickly from inflation doesn't exist, to in...
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HE JUST CAME ALL OVER THE WALL
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Orange voyeur knife
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Nixon called, he wants his economic policies back.
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Flame?
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Orange voyeur knife
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This would fuck up the stock market too no? If prices and pr...
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At the same time you implement price control on goods, put a...
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https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1477946588609851393...
Orange voyeur knife
  01/03/22
lmao BIGCHICKEN strikes again!
Fragrant Field Windowlicker
  01/03/22
There is an interesting argument from the right about the wa...
Tripping azn
  01/03/22
I mean we definitely need to trust bust, but starting with m...
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Beta mood
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That's an antitrust problem and it is a real problem. Price ...
irradiated rebellious senate dog poop
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i am 100% against price controls.
Tripping azn
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Cr
Beta mood
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*sticks Invisible Hand up his ass*
Marvelous Scarlet Theater Stage
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My impression is this is about antitrust, not price controls...
irradiated rebellious senate dog poop
  01/03/22
wait two weeks
Orange voyeur knife
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GOP so ruined anti-communism that no one under 50 or not Cub...
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but Reagan said communism Bad
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  01/03/22
don't worry, soon a loaf will only cost $1 again, but you'll...
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While singing songs of praise to AOC (at gunpoint)
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Date: December 31st, 2021 11:20 AM
Author: Orange voyeur knife

https://www.theguardian.com/business/commentisfree/2021/dec/29/inflation-price-controls-time-we-use-it

We have a powerful weapon to fight inflation: price controls. It’s time we consider it | Isabella Weber

Inflation is near a 40-year high. Central banks around the world just promised to intervene. However, a critical factor that is driving up prices remains largely overlooked: an explosion in profits. In 2021, US non-financial profit margins have reached levels not seen since the aftermath of the second world war. This is no coincidence. The end of the war required a sudden restructuring of production which created bottlenecks similar to those caused by the pandemic. Then and now large corporations with market power have used supply problems as an opportunity to increase prices and scoop windfall profits. The Federal Reserve has taken a hawkish turn this month. But cutting monetary stimulus will not fix supply chains. What we need instead is a serious conversation about strategic price controls – just like after the war.

Today economists are divided into two camps on the inflation question: team Transitory argues we ought not to worry about inflation since it will soon go away. Team Stagflation urges for fiscal restraint and a raise in interest rates. But there is a third option: the government could target the specific prices that drive inflation instead of moving to austerity which risks a recession.

To use a metaphor: if your house is on fire, you would not want to wait until the fire eventually dies out. Neither do you wish to destroy the house by flooding it. A skillful firefighter extinguishes the fire where it is burning to prevent contagion and save the house. History teaches us that such a targeted approach is also possible for price increases.

The White House Council of Economic Advisers suggests that the best historical analogy for today’s inflation is the aftermath of the second world war. Then and now there was pent up demand thanks to high household savings. During the war this was a result of rising incomes and rationing; during Covid-19 that of stimulus checks and shutdowns. At both times supply chains were disrupted. This is as far as the White House advisers’ interpretation of the parallel between the two episodes goes. What they do not tell us is that the inflation after the war was not without an alternative.

During the second world war the Roosevelt administration imposed strict price controls and instituted the Office of Price Administration. In comparison with the first world war, price rises were low, while the increase in output was almost beyond imagination. After the war, the question was what to do with the price controls. Should they be released in one big bang as southern Democrats, Republicans and big business were urging? Or did price controls have a role to play in the transition to a postwar economy?

Some of the most distinguished American economists of the 20th century called for a continuation of price controls in the New York Times. This included the likes of Paul Samuelson, Irving Fisher, Frank Knight, Simon Kuznets, Paul Sweezy and Wesley Mitchell, as well as 11 former presidents of the American Economic Association. The reasons they presented for price controls also apply to our present situation.

They argued that as long as bottlenecks made it impossible for supply to meet demand, price controls for important goods should be continued to prevent prices from shooting up. The tsar of wartime price controls, John Kenneth Galbraith, joined these calls. He explained “the role of price controls” would be “strategic”. “No more than the economist ever supposed will it stop inflation,” he added. “But it both establishes the base and gains the time for the measures that do.”

President Truman was aware of the risks of ending price controls. On 30 October 1945, he warned that after the first world war, the US had “simply pulled off the few controls that had been established, and let nature take its course”. And he urged, “The result should stand as a lesson to all of us. A dizzy upward spiral of wages and the cost of living ended in the crash of 1920 – a crash that spread bankruptcy and foreclosure and unemployment throughout the Nation.” Nevertheless, price controls were pulled in 1946, again triggering inflation and a boom-bust cycle.

Today, there is once more a choice between tolerating the ongoing explosion of profits that drives up prices or tailored controls on carefully selected prices. Price controls would buy time to deal with bottlenecks that will continue as long as the pandemic prevails. Strategic price controls could also contribute to the monetary stability needed to mobilize public investments towards economic resilience, climate change mitigation and carbon-neutrality. The cost of waiting for inflation to go away is high. Senator Manchin’s withdrawal from the Build Back Better Act demonstrates the threat of a shrinking policy space at a time when large scale government action is in order. Austerity would be even worse: it risks manufacturing stagflation.

We need a systematic consideration of strategic price controls as a tool in the broader policy response to the enormous macroeconomic challenges instead of pretending there is no alternative beyond wait-and-see or austerity.

Isabella Weber is an assistant professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts Amherst and the author of How China Escaped Shock Therapy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43704674)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 11:21 AM
Author: vigorous den gay wizard

lmao

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Date: December 31st, 2021 11:22 AM
Author: excitant masturbator

Holy shit

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Date: December 31st, 2021 11:24 AM
Author: Orange voyeur knife

They’re freaking out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43704720)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 12:01 PM
Author: Fragrant Field Windowlicker

they're gigafuckt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43705042)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 12:44 PM
Author: zombie-like sooty doctorate milk

i'm dumb when it comes to shit like this, can u unpack how this article leads to that conclusion? (who is gigafuckt/freaking out and why)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43705362)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 12:50 PM
Author: Fragrant Field Windowlicker

nah...you're not dumb. just think about it in context: we know that our fed cannot undo the damage of easing and flooding the market with dollars. the amount of interest rate hikes required to make that work would destroy the economy and our status as the global reserve currency. so...how do you combat inflation on the ground? price controls or, as some may call it, communism. which, we know, always works out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43705401)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 2:09 PM
Author: shaky rough-skinned garrison

will work great just like in venezuela

step 1: price controls that force manufacturers to sell at a loss

step 2: watch helplessly as factories shut down and stop producing goods

step 3: ease shortages by rationing the goods, blame manufacturers for being evil and greedy trumpmo corporations trying to humiliate the government

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721672)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 11:33 AM
Author: Tripping azn

they went pretty quickly from inflation doesn't exist, to inflation is transitory, to complete economic control by government is necessary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43704791)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 11:35 AM
Author: Orange voyeur knife



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Date: December 31st, 2021 11:36 AM
Author: excitant masturbator



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Date: December 31st, 2021 11:55 AM
Author: Puce fighting wrinkle lay



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Date: December 31st, 2021 12:00 PM
Author: Fragrant Field Windowlicker



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Date: December 31st, 2021 12:40 PM
Author: Beta mood



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Date: December 31st, 2021 12:50 PM
Author: Concupiscible sexy brunch tank



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Date: December 31st, 2021 12:51 PM
Author: Slap-happy razzle-dazzle persian locus



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Date: December 31st, 2021 3:48 PM
Author: vibrant deranged center



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Date: December 31st, 2021 4:25 PM
Author: Orange voyeur knife



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:56 PM
Author: Contagious Set Chad



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Date: January 18th, 2022 5:00 PM
Author: Orange voyeur knife



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Date: December 31st, 2021 11:37 AM
Author: Galvanic Trump Supporter

HE JUST CAME ALL OVER THE WALL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43704825)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 12:06 PM
Author: Orange voyeur knife



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Date: December 31st, 2021 12:39 PM
Author: Orange voyeur knife



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Date: December 31st, 2021 12:41 PM
Author: Concupiscible sexy brunch tank

Nixon called, he wants his economic policies back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43705356)



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Date: December 31st, 2021 1:09 PM
Author: Internet-worthy station becky

Flame?

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Date: December 31st, 2021 3:47 PM
Author: Orange voyeur knife



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Date: December 31st, 2021 4:36 PM
Author: bright razzmatazz stage

This would fuck up the stock market too no? If prices and profits are capped

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43706386)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:44 PM
Author: bistre sweet tailpipe

At the same time you implement price control on goods, put a price floor on the stocks so they can't go down in price

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721520)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:45 PM
Author: Orange voyeur knife

One weird trick

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Date: January 3rd, 2022 2:10 PM
Author: shaky rough-skinned garrison



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:43 PM
Author: Orange voyeur knife



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:43 PM
Author: Orange voyeur knife

https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1477946588609851393

(Bloomberg) -- President Joe Biden will announce plans Monday to combat the market power of the giant conglomerates that dominate meat and poultry processing, ratcheting up a months-long campaign that has blamed anti-competitive practices for contributing to surging inflation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721513)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:44 PM
Author: Fragrant Field Windowlicker

lmao

BIGCHICKEN strikes again!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721523)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:50 PM
Author: Tripping azn

There is an interesting argument from the right about the way that the four big meat processors have effectively cornered the market.

https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/economists-to-cattle-ranchers-stop

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/24/price-inflation-does-have-one-benefit-more-people-understand-now-that-free-markets-collapsed-years-ago-this-is-the-era-of-controlled-markets-the-beef-industry-is-spotlighted/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721564)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:51 PM
Author: Orange voyeur knife

I mean we definitely need to trust bust, but starting with meat processors (heavily R) instead of say Higher Ed or Health Insurance or Social Media is lulzy af

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721569)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:54 PM
Author: Beta mood



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:53 PM
Author: irradiated rebellious senate dog poop

That's an antitrust problem and it is a real problem. Price controls will just destroy meat producers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721581)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:55 PM
Author: Tripping azn

i am 100% against price controls.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721594)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 2:06 PM
Author: Beta mood

Cr

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Date: January 3rd, 2022 2:07 PM
Author: Marvelous Scarlet Theater Stage

*sticks Invisible Hand up his ass*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721660)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 2:02 PM
Author: irradiated rebellious senate dog poop

My impression is this is about antitrust, not price controls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721636)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 2:08 PM
Author: Orange voyeur knife

wait two weeks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721665)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:50 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good Bespoke Legend

GOP so ruined anti-communism that no one under 50 or not Cuban-Venezuelan gives a shit if America goes totally red. People just wanna own a house for once maybe keep a parent home to watch a kid

“It’s communism!!” Doesn’t scare anyone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721559)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 2:01 PM
Author: thriller silver ladyboy place of business

but Reagan said communism Bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721635)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 1:51 PM
Author: Marvelous Scarlet Theater Stage

Went to the local food market and paid $9.78 for 2 tomatoes and a loaf of bread. That ain’t right. By any stretch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721570)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 2:11 PM
Author: shaky rough-skinned garrison

don't worry, soon a loaf will only cost $1 again, but you'll have to wait in line for 15 hours to get one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721692)



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Date: January 3rd, 2022 2:15 PM
Author: Beta mood

While singing songs of praise to AOC (at gunpoint)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4997210&forum_id=2#43721718)