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How was the 2020 election rigged if Trump's people were in power?

I don't understand how Dems were able to out-manuver all 50 ...
Olive Set Death Wish
  02/02/22
"mail-in ballots!"
heady multi-billionaire shrine
  02/02/22
But what about the states that had mail-in ballots and Trump...
Olive Set Death Wish
  02/02/22
"youre a 50 year old jewish homosexual with no family a...
heady multi-billionaire shrine
  02/02/22
Stop talking to yourself
Peach frisky sanctuary
  02/02/22
>>>But what about the states that had mail-in ballo...
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/02/22
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1325193658170134531 ...
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/02/22
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1325262781613039618 ...
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/02/22
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Zombie-like Nursing Home
  02/02/22
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obsidian bawdyhouse ape
  02/02/22
Very kind of dems to only cheat in some elections and not ot...
chestnut lay
  02/02/22
Is this supposed to be a witty, substantive reply? You ch...
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/03/22
Please, tell me more about the black political machines in W...
Learning disabled naked regret
  02/03/22
(Guy unfamiliar with the city of Milwaukee)
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/03/22
Oh, so one city was able to fraudulent change the votes enou...
hairless judgmental theater stage legal warrant
  02/03/22
https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/17/wisconsin-judge-bans-ba...
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/03/22
devastating
Well-lubricated dashing home fanboi
  02/03/22
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Floppy lake market pervert
  02/15/22
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white hyperactive range
  02/04/22
pls reply
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/03/22
pls respond thank
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/03/22
Hi i think you forgot to respond
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/03/22
Bumping for response
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/04/22
Think you might have missed this so just wanted to bump
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/04/22
Hey you might have missed responding thank
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/05/22
idris you forgot to respond
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/09/22
Hi Idris wanted to bump for you in case you missed this
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/09/22
Sooooo cr. And thank God they didn't cheat for down ballot e...
chestnut lay
  02/03/22
...
chestnut lay
  02/09/22
there were 100s of thousands of no downballot "votes&qu...
cerise chest-beating international law enforcement agency
  02/02/22
go away rudolph
Sadistic address
  02/02/22
...
Zombie-like Nursing Home
  02/02/22
Miss Stacy Abrams harvesting dem votes
talented people who are hurt
  02/02/22
So not fraudulent votes, but rather eligible voters who you ...
Spruce hospital
  02/02/22
Das right, white boy. Miss Stacy going door to door, coppin ...
talented people who are hurt
  02/02/22
...
Learning disabled naked regret
  02/03/22
and why was only the 2nd one rigged when it was unknown how ...
arousing space
  02/02/22
they assumed 2016 would be a blowout and they didn't need to
Sadistic address
  02/02/22
but they saw him as a threat after his accomplishment free 4...
arousing space
  02/02/22
Correct
Sadistic address
  02/02/22
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania had GOP SoSes?
supple yellow crotch partner
  02/02/22
Georiga, too
Learning disabled naked regret
  02/03/22
When libs poast these threads its actually to boast about st...
Passionate dog poop den
  02/02/22
Who's op anyway? Ujtp?
180 heaven pisswyrm
  02/02/22
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Floppy lake market pervert
  02/02/22
...
Floppy lake market pervert
  02/02/22
right like his power over the DOJ and FBI that spent 4 years...
comical smoky university
  02/02/22
those kinds of legal shenanigans and fraud / lies backed by ...
white hyperactive range
  02/04/22
Space Jews
Chrome dysfunction office
  02/02/22
It’s either the largest and most widespread conspiracy...
Violet fortuitous meteor giraffe
  02/02/22
clearly the former. everything I've read on facebook says so
Chrome dysfunction office
  02/02/22
Obviously
Violet fortuitous meteor giraffe
  02/02/22
LOL at this interaction, two of the absolute dumbest people ...
Effete national security agency
  02/02/22
(guy who thinks it was the largest and most widespread consp...
heady multi-billionaire shrine
  02/02/22
Biden is doing great. Don’t worry, man
Effete national security agency
  02/02/22
...
chestnut lay
  02/02/22
There’s my 5’6” shadow!
Effete national security agency
  02/02/22
Seems like you follow me around not vice versa little buddy
chestnut lay
  02/03/22
cr
Learning disabled naked regret
  02/03/22
Biden won this gen and we need to accept it and move on imho...
big flatulent lodge
  02/02/22
Rigged elections are the worst kind
motley maize field
  02/02/22
The 2020 election was fortified -Using COVID as the prete...
lascivious digit ratio pit
  02/03/22
And trump only won because of that FBI faggot breaching FBI ...
chestnut lay
  02/03/22
"Yes, Biden won..." everything after that stat...
hairless judgmental theater stage legal warrant
  02/05/22
Regardless the amount of fraud that did or did not happen Re...
Mind-boggling scarlet plaza stock car
  02/03/22
Go away Rudolph
Effete national security agency
  02/03/22


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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:30 PM
Author: Olive Set Death Wish

I don't understand how Dems were able to out-manuver all 50 states and subordinate counties to rig the election if Trump's people were in control and most of those states had GOP Secretary of States.

Do Trumpmos have an explanation for this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894002)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:35 PM
Author: heady multi-billionaire shrine

"mail-in ballots!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894039)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:37 PM
Author: Olive Set Death Wish

But what about the states that had mail-in ballots and Trump won? Or what about the down-ballot races where GOP won.

I just really wish Trumpmos would respond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894056)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:39 PM
Author: heady multi-billionaire shrine

"youre a 50 year old jewish homosexual with no family and no friends"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894061)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:40 PM
Author: Peach frisky sanctuary

Stop talking to yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894065)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:46 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

>>>But what about the states that had mail-in ballots and Trump won?

You don't have to cheat in every state, just the close ones that you think you can win?

>>Or what about the down-ballot races where GOP won.

Do you not know about the hundreds of thousands of blank downballot votes in battlegrounds?

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1325193658170134531

Continued statistical analysis shows wild numbers of people who voted ONLY for Joe Biden and didn’t vote further down the ticket:

Pennsylvania — 98,000

Georgia — 80-90,000

Arizona — 42,000

Michigan — 69- 115,000

Wisconsin — 62,836

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894102)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:47 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1325193658170134531

TRUMP TOP TICKET ONLY:

Pennsylvania - Negative (-57,795)

Georgia - Negative (-28,955)

Arizona - 20,683

Michigan 31,538

Wisconsin Negative (50,254)

Negative values probably means there was crossover and they prob voted for Trump and a Democrat lower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894111)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:47 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1325262781613039618

What we are seeing in the data is astronomically out of whack with 2016.

In 2016 there was a circa 150k difference in top ticket only voting between Trump and Clinton.

This year shows a circa 500k difference.

It’s just not credible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894121)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:49 PM
Author: Zombie-like Nursing Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894131)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:05 PM
Author: obsidian bawdyhouse ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895616)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:15 PM
Author: chestnut lay

Very kind of dems to only cheat in some elections and not others ;-) ;-)

Totally makes sense haha yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895679)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 9:36 AM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

Is this supposed to be a witty, substantive reply?

You cheat in inner city battleground states where you can get away with fraud with the help of your black political machine. That’s exactly what happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43898093)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:50 AM
Author: Learning disabled naked regret

Please, tell me more about the black political machines in Wisconsin and Arizona

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43898813)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 12:59 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

(Guy unfamiliar with the city of Milwaukee)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43899191)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 1:00 PM
Author: hairless judgmental theater stage legal warrant

Oh, so one city was able to fraudulent change the votes enough to win an entire state.

Wow! I wonder if anybody ever brought this up in court. . .?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43899198)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 1:06 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/17/wisconsin-judge-bans-ballot-drop-boxes-says-election-officials-broke-the-law/

A judge in the key battleground state of Wisconsin ruled Thursday that ballot drop boxes and ballot harvesting violate state law and cannot be used in the upcoming midterm elections.

Waukesha County Circuit Court Judge Michael Bohren determined “there is no statutory authority” to allow for either practice, which became highly controversial in Wisconsin following the state’s razor-thin outcome in the 2020 presidential election. President Joe Biden defeated former President Donald Trump in the state by approximately 20,000 votes.

The Wisconsin Elections Commission, which is under fire for allegedly bending and even openly violating state law to give Biden an edge, authorized the dramatic increase in the use of ballot drop boxes, but Judge Bohren held that the agency lacked lawful authority to do so.

The plaintiffs, voters represented by the conservative Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty (WILL), argued that state law allowed for only two methods of returning an absentee ballot: Through the mail or in person at the municipal clerk’s office. Nowhere does it allow for a ballot to be dropped off in a drop box.

Likewise, Wisconsin law provides that no person “may receive a ballot from or give a ballot to a person other than the election official in charge.” This, the plaintiffs argued, is a clear prohibition on ballot harvesting, the practice of third parties collecting absentee ballots from voters.

Despite this, the Wisconsin Elections Commission sent a memo to municipal clerks ahead of the 2020 election indicating that “a family member or another person may also return the ballot on behalf of the voter” and that ballots could be returned in drop boxes instead of in person at the clerk’s office.

Neither of these, Bohren ruled Thursday, were lawful orders. Still, clerks set up more than 500 ballot drop boxes across the state, which were used to collect tens of thousands of absentee ballots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43899231)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 6:32 PM
Author: Well-lubricated dashing home fanboi

devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43901241)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:33 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43971075)



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Date: February 4th, 2022 12:12 AM
Author: white hyperactive range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43903516)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:12 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

pls reply

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43899601)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:53 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

pls respond thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43899834)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:58 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

Hi i think you forgot to respond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43903441)



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Date: February 4th, 2022 1:11 AM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

Bumping for response

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43903775)



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Date: February 4th, 2022 8:59 AM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

Think you might have missed this so just wanted to bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43904539)



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Date: February 5th, 2022 12:31 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

Hey you might have missed responding thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43911880)



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Date: February 9th, 2022 10:10 AM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

idris you forgot to respond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43936170)



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Date: February 9th, 2022 8:38 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert

Hi Idris wanted to bump for you in case you missed this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43940252)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 6:45 PM
Author: chestnut lay

Sooooo cr. And thank God they didn't cheat for down ballot elections too! Which they abstained from out of the goodness of their hearts amirite?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43901339)



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Date: February 9th, 2022 9:37 PM
Author: chestnut lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43940755)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:47 PM
Author: cerise chest-beating international law enforcement agency

there were 100s of thousands of no downballot "votes"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894114)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:57 PM
Author: Sadistic address

go away rudolph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894190)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:48 PM
Author: Zombie-like Nursing Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894130)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:38 PM
Author: talented people who are hurt

Miss Stacy Abrams harvesting dem votes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894059)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:42 PM
Author: Spruce hospital

So not fraudulent votes, but rather eligible voters who you don’t want to vote casting votes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894077)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:50 PM
Author: talented people who are hurt

Das right, white boy. Miss Stacy going door to door, coppin dem votes from niggas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894139)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:51 AM
Author: Learning disabled naked regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43898816)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:41 PM
Author: arousing space

and why was only the 2nd one rigged when it was unknown how he'd govern (thereby making him much scarier) during the first election?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894076)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:57 PM
Author: Sadistic address

they assumed 2016 would be a blowout and they didn't need to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894183)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:28 PM
Author: arousing space

but they saw him as a threat after his accomplishment free 4 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894433)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 7:32 PM
Author: Sadistic address

Correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895415)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:48 PM
Author: supple yellow crotch partner

Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania had GOP SoSes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894127)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:51 AM
Author: Learning disabled naked regret

Georiga, too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43898819)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:55 PM
Author: Passionate dog poop den

When libs poast these threads its actually to boast about stealing an election, which they're actually totally happy about. They know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894166)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:55 PM
Author: 180 heaven pisswyrm

Who's op anyway? Ujtp?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894175)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:57 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894185)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 7:19 PM
Author: Floppy lake market pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895346)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:29 PM
Author: comical smoky university

right like his power over the DOJ and FBI that spent 4 years making up fake investigations of him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43894454)



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Date: February 4th, 2022 12:14 AM
Author: white hyperactive range

those kinds of legal shenanigans and fraud / lies backed by the media and state power against Trump were completely out of nowhere in 2020 and didn't at all happen in the years before

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43903525)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 7:20 PM
Author: Chrome dysfunction office

Space Jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895351)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 7:23 PM
Author: Violet fortuitous meteor giraffe

It’s either the largest and most widespread conspiracy to have ever successfully been enacted in the history of humanity or, maybe, Trump lost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895363)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 7:23 PM
Author: Chrome dysfunction office

clearly the former. everything I've read on facebook says so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895365)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 7:24 PM
Author: Violet fortuitous meteor giraffe

Obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895366)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 7:53 PM
Author: Effete national security agency

LOL at this interaction, two of the absolute dumbest people to ever post here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895541)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:02 PM
Author: heady multi-billionaire shrine

(guy who thinks it was the largest and most widespread conspiracy to have ever successfully been enacted in the history of humanity)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895592)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:15 PM
Author: Effete national security agency

Biden is doing great. Don’t worry, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895680)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:21 PM
Author: chestnut lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895710)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:28 PM
Author: Effete national security agency

There’s my 5’6” shadow!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895740)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 1:34 AM
Author: chestnut lay

Seems like you follow me around not vice versa little buddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43897062)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:51 AM
Author: Learning disabled naked regret

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43898823)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:04 PM
Author: big flatulent lodge

Biden won this gen and we need to accept it and move on imho. Trump had No Voters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895609)



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Date: February 2nd, 2022 8:08 PM
Author: motley maize field

Rigged elections are the worst kind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43895634)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:38 PM
Author: lascivious digit ratio pit

The 2020 election was fortified

-Using COVID as the pretext, Dem lawyers filed lawsuits to change state election laws without legislative approval. Mail ballot rules were significantly relaxed, ranging from drop-off locations to ballot harvesting to whether signature authentication is required. It was a free for all.

-Zuckerberg donating private money to swing counties in swing states (e.g. Milwaukee WI) so they can implement ballot harvesting & other operations.

-Unprecedented big tech+media+business interference for a presidential candidate. Twitter banned NY Post account for a few weeks over the Hunter Biden story, which ended up being true. Pfizer explicitly delayed announcing its COVID vaccine to after the election.

2020 was the most shady election since 1876. Yes, Biden won, but he is illegitimate in many ways. Only COVID+factors outlined above allowed Biden to barely beat Trump.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43899747)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 6:48 PM
Author: chestnut lay

And trump only won because of that FBI faggot breaching FBI policy on discussing active investigations.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43901357)



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Date: February 5th, 2022 12:26 PM
Author: hairless judgmental theater stage legal warrant

"Yes, Biden won..."

everything after that statement is bullshit you just made up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43911843)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:54 PM
Author: Mind-boggling scarlet plaza stock car

Regardless the amount of fraud that did or did not happen Republican leaders wanted Trump to loose too. So everyone calm the fuck down it’s all under control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43899837)



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Date: February 3rd, 2022 6:27 PM
Author: Effete national security agency

Go away Rudolph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022411&forum_id=2#43901205)