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lmao fed has been PANIC buying TIPS to keep the break-even rate low

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Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay
  02/09/22
they rig the TIPS market with artificially low yields, then ...
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Chestnut blood rage
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Floppy slate party of the first part dopamine
  02/09/22
idiots on this board still don't understand this is why you ...
Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay
  02/09/22
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Startling laughsome office national security agency
  02/09/22
then what should we buy
Self-absorbed adventurous area
  02/09/22
land guns ammo food storage physical silver p...
Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay
  02/09/22
Goy here. What are TIPS?
concupiscible stead
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Poppy fragrant location pervert
  02/10/22
inflation adjusted bonds. the principal goes up alongside in...
Sooty contagious market halford
  02/10/22
lmao because the central bank of the reserve currency of the...
Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay
  02/10/22
Fed buying would make the breakeven inflation rate higher no...
Passionate twisted indian lodge liquid oxygen
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Sooty contagious market halford
  02/10/22
you don't even understand how the TIPS market works, you dum...
Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay
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Stirring claret box office
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Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay
  02/10/22
enjoy your "inflation protected" bonds, you dumb f...
Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay
  02/10/22
What's the takeaway for retards like me?
Stirring claret box office
  02/11/22
lol holy shit. what is CPI even?
Opaque prole
  02/11/22
It is a basket of goods
Wonderful brethren theater
  02/11/22
?? Don't see the hedonic adjustment row?
Massive Dragon
  02/11/22
great fresh taste of folgers: ^+108% we need to print more...
chocolate bull headed karate potus
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Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay
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Elite topaz parlor messiness
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lol fma
Elite topaz parlor messiness
  02/11/22
the government thanks you for your investment! 1-year loc...
Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay
  02/11/22
oh i don’t have any of those, just loling @ what&rsquo...
Elite topaz parlor messiness
  02/11/22
Your all in bet on gold and silver miners has had like a -30...
White Organic Girlfriend
  02/11/22
yeah it's been a pain trade but we're about to hit paydirt. ...
Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay
  02/11/22
Ljl at Obeezy scrambling to defend his precious Biden Bonds
Heady Hall
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Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay
  02/11/22
holy shit
cerebral fluffy feces trailer park
  02/11/22


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Date: February 9th, 2022 11:35 PM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLFLe0MVIAE4Kwo?format=jpg&name=medium

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43941670)



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Date: February 9th, 2022 11:35 PM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay

they rig the TIPS market with artificially low yields, then cite the break-even rate (based on TIPS) as justification for $$$$$$ printing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43941675)



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Date: February 9th, 2022 11:36 PM
Author: Chestnut blood rage

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Date: February 9th, 2022 11:37 PM
Author: Floppy slate party of the first part dopamine



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Date: February 9th, 2022 11:37 PM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay

idiots on this board still don't understand this is why you NEVER buy TIPS, I-BONDS, etc.

it's | fucking | rigged

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43941687)



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Date: February 9th, 2022 11:38 PM
Author: Startling laughsome office national security agency



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Date: February 9th, 2022 11:42 PM
Author: Self-absorbed adventurous area

then what should we buy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43941715)



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Date: February 9th, 2022 11:44 PM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay

land

guns

ammo

food storage

physical silver

physical gold

mining stocks

oil/gas stocks

uranium stocks

commodity royalty stocks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43941726)



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Date: February 9th, 2022 11:45 PM
Author: concupiscible stead

Goy here. What are TIPS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43941734)



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Date: February 10th, 2022 12:02 AM
Author: Poppy fragrant location pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43941819)



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Date: February 10th, 2022 12:06 AM
Author: Sooty contagious market halford

inflation adjusted bonds. the principal goes up alongside inflation.

op, whats your explanation for why all corporate and non-us sovereign debt yields remain so low? is the fed buying them too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43941845)



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Date: February 10th, 2022 1:06 AM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay

lmao because the central bank of the reserve currency of the word sets interest rates and everybody else gets in line

if you're a eurofag and you see the US gov print 30% of its currency in a single year, you do the same thing to keep F/X parity

if you're a corporatefag, you see the US government is making credit so freeflowing and cheap that you can issue deeply negative real rate bonds because they are slightly higher rate than treasuries. there's also the complete moral hazard of if anything goes wrong they will get bailed out. the fed bought fucking APPLE bonds right after the mar2020 crash

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43942047)



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Date: February 10th, 2022 4:14 AM
Author: Passionate twisted indian lodge liquid oxygen

Fed buying would make the breakeven inflation rate higher not lower

stick to 'ironic' flat earth conspiracies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43942465)



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Date: February 10th, 2022 12:57 PM
Author: Sooty contagious market halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43944353)



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Date: February 10th, 2022 10:26 PM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay

you don't even understand how the TIPS market works, you dumb pumo faggot. the whole point is the Fed manipulates it to make EXPECTATIONS look like everyone thinks there will be 2% inflation forever and it's NBD. they can DUMP their massive holdings whenever they want to anchor it to 2%, then PANIC BUY it back if they need to push it 2% from the other direction. they have unlimited firepower in each direction. they teach the market not to fuck with their 2% "expectation" or they get punished. bond vigilantes are dead

enjoy your 7.5% "inflation" adjustment while real inflation is approaching >20%. eat shit and die pumo

https://www.forbes.com/sites/vineerbhansali/2021/03/03/a-tip-to-the-wise-dont-look-at-tips-to-protect-against-inflation-from-here/?sh=1b4e453521fb

Now here is the punchline. The Fed wants inflation to be about 2%, on average. To have inflation get to 2% consistently, the expectations of the market have to be “anchored” to this 2% target. To manage expectations, the Fed can buy enough TIPS and Treasuries, just in the right amount, to make the breakeven inflation rate equal to 2%, or whatever it wants. If we look at the chart again, we see that the five-year forward five year inflation is exactly at 2%. The metric is cooked to perfection. Mission accomplished?

Not so fast. Remember that the breakeven inflation has no real information content these days. Due to the buying by the Fed and others, the actual real yield on short term TIPS is deeply negative (about -2% in the five year maturity area, and -0.50% or so in the ten year maturity area). Even thirty 30 year TIPS are at 0% real yield and the real yield of the almost $30billion TIPS ETF TIP is about -1.25% (Source: Ishares). Since real yields are a function of economic growth, negative real yields, if they were a good metric of the market’s expectations, means that the market thinks there will be no growth. But the equity markets are saying there will be a lot of growth.

So someone is wrong. Either the stock markets are wrong, or the TIPS market is wrong. My view is that the TIPs market is simply not a market in the traditional sense any more, and the equity market is sort of a market, but the Fed, by buying corporate bonds and its underwriting of risk in the stock market, has also boosted the equity markets. So neither has much informational content, except that at the end of the day, the equity markets are more important to the economy and the Fed than the TIPS market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43948244)



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Date: February 10th, 2022 10:34 PM
Author: Stirring claret box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43948288)



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Date: February 10th, 2022 10:45 PM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43948364)



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Date: February 10th, 2022 10:35 PM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay

enjoy your "inflation protected" bonds, you dumb fags

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLPYhJ0VcAo_Adg?format=png&name=small

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43948294)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 12:34 PM
Author: Stirring claret box office

What's the takeaway for retards like me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43950850)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 12:41 PM
Author: Opaque prole

lol holy shit. what is CPI even?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43950885)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 9:41 PM
Author: Wonderful brethren theater

It is a basket of goods

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43953818)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 12:48 PM
Author: Massive Dragon

?? Don't see the hedonic adjustment row?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43950925)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 12:58 PM
Author: chocolate bull headed karate potus

great fresh taste of folgers: ^+108%

we need to print more to exit this deflationary spiral

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43950975)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 9:30 PM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43953727)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 9:36 PM
Author: Elite topaz parlor messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43953773)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 9:36 PM
Author: Elite topaz parlor messiness

lol fma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43953776)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 9:45 PM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay

the government thanks you for your investment!

1-year lockup on i-bonds, i'm sure nothing will go too wrong until then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43953851)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 10:38 PM
Author: Elite topaz parlor messiness

oh i don’t have any of those, just loling @ what’s to come based on those %s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43954124)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 12:43 PM
Author: White Organic Girlfriend

Your all in bet on gold and silver miners has had like a -30% return so far

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43950895)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 9:32 PM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay

yeah it's been a pain trade but we're about to hit paydirt. gold broke out today and is heading to the moon. there's a reason why countries only accepted gold as payment from countries engaged in a war.

i'm also YUGELY bullish on energy and food, the former of which has performed incredibly and the latter of which is just getting started

hope you're strapped into your rocket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43953745)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 12:50 PM
Author: Heady Hall

Ljl at Obeezy scrambling to defend his precious Biden Bonds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43950939)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 9:32 PM
Author: Pearly mischievous marketing idea lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43953747)



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Date: February 11th, 2022 12:58 PM
Author: cerebral fluffy feces trailer park

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5028425&forum_id=2#43950979)