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we're beyond cuban missile crisis mode

and with 1/12 of the intellectual horsepower that we had in ...
slippery federal jap
  02/27/22
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Grizzly market cumskin
  02/27/22
Lower IQ than that man. Microplastics aren't a joke.
passionate codepig
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slippery federal jap
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CR in the past we had qualified rational leaders now we have...
Disgusting exhilarant crackhouse
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we're so fucked jfc
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in a perfect we'd have hungover fordham grads who can't writ...
Massive Glittery Messiness Theater
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You're a retarded felon who couldn't finish HS.
Disgusting exhilarant crackhouse
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curious sexy property
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cracking cheese-eating macaca senate
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Flushed Pisswyrm
  02/27/22
Bullshit, this is all posturing by Putin. You don't tell the...
talented house-broken sound barrier
  02/27/22
I think this is just to make sure that there is no interfere...
Vermilion area
  02/27/22
Yeah, it's an entirely predictable shot across the bow and w...
talented house-broken sound barrier
  02/27/22
From my perspective, it seems like this is a good outcome. ...
Vermilion area
  02/27/22
What really hurts Russia long-term is that Europe will move ...
talented house-broken sound barrier
  02/27/22
They cant
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Sapphire Comical Brethren Athletic Conference
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because transportation of liquified natural gas is still too...
silver church
  02/27/22
Lol there’s more cheap gas in Algeria than all of Russ...
abnormal khaki blood rage
  02/27/22
If NATO weapons flow into Ukraine he will ABSOLUTELY nuke Po...
heady hairy legs quadroon
  02/27/22
Why do all our (((pols))) want nuclear war
Disgusting exhilarant crackhouse
  02/27/22
Russia is conventionally inferior so it will secure security...
heady hairy legs quadroon
  02/27/22
"Russia is conventionally inferior" Don't recal...
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slap-happy trust fund
  02/27/22
This war has clearly demonstrated it.
Balding copper public bath
  02/27/22
wait the US sent its armed forces into Cuba, got its ass han...
Grizzly market cumskin
  02/27/22
It secured the buffer zone by agreement or it absolutely wou...
heady hairy legs quadroon
  02/27/22
it didn't get to install a puppet regime or break off chunks...
Grizzly market cumskin
  02/27/22
Aren’t you Jewish lol
curious sexy property
  02/27/22
Upvoted
Concupiscible orchid university
  02/27/22
LOL, what the fuck do you think this is? https://www.peri...
talented house-broken sound barrier
  02/27/22
Even Latvia sent Stingers, and they border Russia: https://...
talented house-broken sound barrier
  02/27/22
Ukraine is Russia. Thats what Yankee idiots dont understand ...
heady hairy legs quadroon
  02/27/22
How has this fact eluded Ukrainians?
talented house-broken sound barrier
  02/27/22
Those who resist this reality will all die.
heady hairy legs quadroon
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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:43 AM Author: .- .-. . .-. . ....
tan twisted rehab private investor
  02/27/22
Everyone please heed the dire warnings of the idiot who has ...
tan twisted rehab private investor
  02/27/22
Retard. NATO weapons have been in ukraine since the beginnin...
crusty son of senegal bawdyhouse
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Rofl xo still thinks Putin is some kind all-powerful strateg...
Flushed Pisswyrm
  02/27/22
Strelkov is in charge now. The Russian nationalist generals ...
heady hairy legs quadroon
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https://imgur.com/a/xMvdze4
ruby doobsian theatre
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Fraudcam zooming in on bald spot IRL
Flushed Pisswyrm
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zelensky with his defense minister today https://pbs.twim...
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1968: Abrams replaces Westmoreland. “Now our victory i...
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DROP THE BOMB EXTERMINATE THEM ALL! APOCALYPSE NOW!
Laughsome hall nibblets
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Are we taking it for granted that use of tactical nukes will...
ruby doobsian theatre
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Yes
Disgusting exhilarant crackhouse
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Libs are doing the gender / identity routine with the arsena...
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Vermilion area
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I would assume whomever starts the exchange will limit it to...
supple startling cuckoldry
  02/27/22
If you think you might use ICBMs then it doesn't make a whol...
talented house-broken sound barrier
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Russians invading some other Russians is really not as big o...
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talented house-broken sound barrier
  02/27/22
this is just a china test.
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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:10 AM
Author: slippery federal jap

and with 1/12 of the intellectual horsepower that we had in the 50s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044665)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:10 AM
Author: Grizzly market cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044669)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:11 AM
Author: passionate codepig

Lower IQ than that man. Microplastics aren't a joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044671)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:13 AM
Author: slippery federal jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044683)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:11 AM
Author: Disgusting exhilarant crackhouse

CR in the past we had qualified rational leaders now we have a pants shitting senile moron backed by an idiot who fucked and sucked her way into power and a “brain trust” of purple haired tranny freaks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044674)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:13 AM
Author: slippery federal jap

we're so fucked jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044684)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:14 AM
Author: mischievous jet-lagged national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044687)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:14 AM
Author: At-the-ready Bronze Gunner Center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044692)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:19 AM
Author: Sapphire Comical Brethren Athletic Conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044721)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:32 AM
Author: hyperactive ultramarine jew heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044788)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:35 AM
Author: insanely creepy native elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044808)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:51 AM
Author: bateful chapel useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045473)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:52 AM
Author: Smoky Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045480)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:08 PM
Author: unholy range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046027)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:19 PM
Author: Massive Glittery Messiness Theater

in a perfect we'd have hungover fordham grads who can't write running things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046135)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:34 PM
Author: Disgusting exhilarant crackhouse

You're a retarded felon who couldn't finish HS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046272)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 2:03 PM
Author: Wonderful Mahogany Roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046539)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 4:22 PM
Author: curious sexy property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44047502)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 7:32 PM
Author: cracking cheese-eating macaca senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44048835)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:21 PM
Author: Flushed Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44050035)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:15 AM
Author: talented house-broken sound barrier

Bullshit, this is all posturing by Putin. You don't tell the world you're going on nuclear alert if you plan to use them. Thus giving us time to send more boomer subs on patrol, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044698)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:17 AM
Author: Vermilion area

I think this is just to make sure that there is no interference in Ukraine.

He's talking with the Ukrainian leader soon so I think there may be an end to this in sight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044703)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:18 AM
Author: talented house-broken sound barrier

Yeah, it's an entirely predictable shot across the bow and what he's done his entire time as Russian leader. They even had a "nuclear drill" right before invading Ukraine.

With the war going against him and sanctions biting harder, it would have been surprising if he DIDN'T play this card.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044715)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:24 AM
Author: Vermilion area

From my perspective, it seems like this is a good outcome.

Putin's increased oil prices significantly, likely for a good while as well, so Russia's economic situation is much better now. Sanctions counteract that, which mean that he wants to see those go away or get reduced.

He's also taken some territory in regions that are predominately Russian, so he can incorporate those places into Russia and has some nominal gains there, plus a nationalistic legacy.

If there are negotiations to allow some of the Ukrainian regions to vote to become part of Russia, redrawing of borders in a more solid faction and a permanent stalemate/cessation of hostilities from both sides, there is no longer a NATO issue if there has been a mutually agreeable outcome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044742)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:25 AM
Author: talented house-broken sound barrier

What really hurts Russia long-term is that Europe will move to other sources of energy than Russian gas. That hurts Russia badly both in their pocketbook and in their leverage over Europe.

The rest of this stuff will fade with time, but that will have a lasting effect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044754)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:46 AM
Author: charismatic fluffy state mood

They cant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045434)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:49 AM
Author: Sapphire Comical Brethren Athletic Conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045461)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 12:15 PM
Author: silver church

because transportation of liquified natural gas is still too cost prohibitive but that will change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045637)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 4:00 PM
Author: abnormal khaki blood rage

Lol there’s more cheap gas in Algeria than all of Russia. And with Israel and KSA new best buds, Europeans have all the energy they’ll ever need.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44047324)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:26 AM
Author: heady hairy legs quadroon

If NATO weapons flow into Ukraine he will ABSOLUTELY nuke Poland to end the flow. He has said as much and not believing him at this point is what is insane. People keep calling me flame but its not flame when the man with the nukes is actually arming them. This is deadly serious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044760)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:28 AM
Author: Disgusting exhilarant crackhouse

Why do all our (((pols))) want nuclear war

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044767)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:31 AM
Author: heady hairy legs quadroon

Russia is conventionally inferior so it will secure security guarantees either by treaty or by making buffers and if its attempt at making buffers by conventional forces is rebuffed it will use nukes to empty the land. Oddly enough the US in Russia's shoes would do the same. That was what happened in Cuba when the US had conventional inferiority.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044782)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:35 AM
Author: talented house-broken sound barrier

"Russia is conventionally inferior"

Don't recall you admitting that before.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044814)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:42 AM
Author: Disgusting exhilarant crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044863)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:54 AM
Author: Grizzly market cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044979)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:46 AM
Author: Kink-friendly juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045438)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: slap-happy trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045885)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 2:10 PM
Author: Balding copper public bath

This war has clearly demonstrated it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046592)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:55 AM
Author: Grizzly market cumskin

wait the US sent its armed forces into Cuba, got its ass handed to it, and then nuked Cuba into glass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044988)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:59 AM
Author: heady hairy legs quadroon

It secured the buffer zone by agreement or it absolutely would have. That was what 1962 was about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045041)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:52 AM
Author: Grizzly market cumskin

it didn't get to install a puppet regime or break off chunks of cuba like russia is trying to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045478)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:07 PM
Author: curious sexy property

Aren’t you Jewish lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046009)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:29 AM
Author: Concupiscible orchid university

Upvoted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044770)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:34 AM
Author: talented house-broken sound barrier

LOL, what the fuck do you think this is?

https://www.perild.com/2022/02/25/weapons-arrived-in-ukraine-from-poland/

Eagerly awaiting nuking of Poland.

There's a long-established Cold War playbook. You're allowed to arm the other side in these proxy wars, just don't get openly involved in the fighting yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044803)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:40 AM
Author: talented house-broken sound barrier

Even Latvia sent Stingers, and they border Russia: https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/latvia-to-deliver-anti-aircraft-missiles-to-ukraine-on-tuesday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044849)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:41 AM
Author: heady hairy legs quadroon

Ukraine is Russia. Thats what Yankee idiots dont understand and why WW3 is basically here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045394)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:42 AM
Author: talented house-broken sound barrier

How has this fact eluded Ukrainians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045406)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:43 AM
Author: heady hairy legs quadroon

Those who resist this reality will all die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045415)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:03 PM
Author: tan twisted rehab private investor

Date: February 27th, 2022 11:43 AM

Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

Those who resist this reality will all die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045974)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:02 PM
Author: tan twisted rehab private investor

Everyone please heed the dire warnings of the idiot who has been wrong about everything the entire time, thank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045953)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:27 PM
Author: crusty son of senegal bawdyhouse

Retard. NATO weapons have been in ukraine since the beginning.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44050084)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:47 AM
Author: Flushed Pisswyrm

Rofl xo still thinks Putin is some kind all-powerful strategic genius 🤡🤡🤡

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045442)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:49 AM
Author: heady hairy legs quadroon

Strelkov is in charge now. The Russian nationalist generals are to Putins right and have been advocating for this since 2014.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045459)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:51 AM
Author: ruby doobsian theatre

https://imgur.com/a/xMvdze4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045477)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:53 AM
Author: Flushed Pisswyrm

Fraudcam zooming in on bald spot IRL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045494)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 12:09 PM
Author: Grizzly market cumskin

zelensky with his defense minister today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMnkMpIX0AwYQIK?format=jpg&name=small

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045587)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: Flushed Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045643)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:59 PM
Author: ruby doobsian theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44050792)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:53 AM
Author: Flushed Pisswyrm

1968: Abrams replaces Westmoreland. “Now our victory is all but assured!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045487)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:58 AM
Author: Chartreuse Tanning Salon Dog Poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045515)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:57 AM
Author: Laughsome hall nibblets

DROP THE BOMB

EXTERMINATE THEM ALL!

APOCALYPSE NOW!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045509)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:14 PM
Author: ruby doobsian theatre

Are we taking it for granted that use of tactical nukes will escalate to use of strategic nukes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046073)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:15 PM
Author: Disgusting exhilarant crackhouse

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046081)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:15 PM
Author: charismatic fluffy state mood

Libs are doing the gender / identity routine with the arsenal so we already have shit like trans-nukes and so on, there really won't be any difference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046092)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:17 PM
Author: insanely creepy native elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046115)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:39 PM
Author: Vermilion area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046308)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:33 PM
Author: supple startling cuckoldry

I would assume whomever starts the exchange will limit it to one nuclear weapon aimed at a military target, and there will be a response in kind.

It's hard for me to believe the aggressor begins by launching thousands of nukes in a full MAD scenario.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046260)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 3:17 PM
Author: talented house-broken sound barrier

If you think you might use ICBMs then it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to tell a press conference that you're going on nuclear alert, thus giving the other side to sortie more missile submarines, etc.

This is all tough talk, just like Russia has been doing for years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44047032)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:29 PM
Author: Frum vigorous parlour filthpig

Russians invading some other Russians is really not as big of a deal as installing missiles in Cuba to directly threaten the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44050099)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:50 PM
Author: talented house-broken sound barrier



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:33 PM
Author: Appetizing Territorial Marketing Idea Electric Furnace

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