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we're beyond cuban missile crisis mode

and with 1/12 of the intellectual horsepower that we had in ...
flatulent hairless friendly grandma business firm
  02/27/22
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carmine haunted graveyard old irish cottage
  02/27/22
Lower IQ than that man. Microplastics aren't a joke.
marvelous cocky corner
  02/27/22
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flatulent hairless friendly grandma business firm
  02/27/22
CR in the past we had qualified rational leaders now we have...
supple station
  02/27/22
we're so fucked jfc
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Chocolate Goyim Sound Barrier
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in a perfect we'd have hungover fordham grads who can't writ...
grizzly menage knife
  02/27/22
You're a retarded felon who couldn't finish HS.
supple station
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Galvanic party of the first part
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well-lubricated hell
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amethyst talented new version nowag
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nubile messiness box office
  02/27/22
Bullshit, this is all posturing by Putin. You don't tell the...
low-t aromatic macaca pervert
  02/27/22
I think this is just to make sure that there is no interfere...
Diverse state philosopher-king
  02/27/22
Yeah, it's an entirely predictable shot across the bow and w...
low-t aromatic macaca pervert
  02/27/22
From my perspective, it seems like this is a good outcome. ...
Diverse state philosopher-king
  02/27/22
What really hurts Russia long-term is that Europe will move ...
low-t aromatic macaca pervert
  02/27/22
They cant
180 sneaky criminal
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Flushed Fantasy-prone Rigor Toaster
  02/27/22
because transportation of liquified natural gas is still too...
duck-like idiotic piazza
  02/27/22
Lol there’s more cheap gas in Algeria than all of Russ...
Excitant Pistol Home
  02/27/22
If NATO weapons flow into Ukraine he will ABSOLUTELY nuke Po...
Purple heaven
  02/27/22
Why do all our (((pols))) want nuclear war
supple station
  02/27/22
Russia is conventionally inferior so it will secure security...
Purple heaven
  02/27/22
"Russia is conventionally inferior" Don't recal...
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supple station
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carmine haunted graveyard old irish cottage
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vibrant bright voyeur
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maize appetizing den gunner
  02/27/22
This war has clearly demonstrated it.
Green infuriating bawdyhouse becky
  02/27/22
wait the US sent its armed forces into Cuba, got its ass han...
carmine haunted graveyard old irish cottage
  02/27/22
It secured the buffer zone by agreement or it absolutely wou...
Purple heaven
  02/27/22
it didn't get to install a puppet regime or break off chunks...
carmine haunted graveyard old irish cottage
  02/27/22
Aren’t you Jewish lol
well-lubricated hell
  02/27/22
Upvoted
chest-beating stirring theater stage hairy legs
  02/27/22
LOL, what the fuck do you think this is? https://www.peri...
low-t aromatic macaca pervert
  02/27/22
Even Latvia sent Stingers, and they border Russia: https://...
low-t aromatic macaca pervert
  02/27/22
Ukraine is Russia. Thats what Yankee idiots dont understand ...
Purple heaven
  02/27/22
How has this fact eluded Ukrainians?
low-t aromatic macaca pervert
  02/27/22
Those who resist this reality will all die.
Purple heaven
  02/27/22
Date: February 27th, 2022 11:43 AM Author: .- .-. . .-. . ....
Fighting wine crackhouse sandwich
  02/27/22
Everyone please heed the dire warnings of the idiot who has ...
Fighting wine crackhouse sandwich
  02/27/22
Retard. NATO weapons have been in ukraine since the beginnin...
honey-headed cuckoldry lay
  02/27/22
Rofl xo still thinks Putin is some kind all-powerful strateg...
nubile messiness box office
  02/27/22
Strelkov is in charge now. The Russian nationalist generals ...
Purple heaven
  02/27/22
https://imgur.com/a/xMvdze4
swashbuckling tan shrine giraffe
  02/27/22
Fraudcam zooming in on bald spot IRL
nubile messiness box office
  02/27/22
zelensky with his defense minister today https://pbs.twim...
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swashbuckling tan shrine giraffe
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1968: Abrams replaces Westmoreland. “Now our victory i...
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Mauve Beady-eyed Half-breed
  02/27/22
DROP THE BOMB EXTERMINATE THEM ALL! APOCALYPSE NOW!
vivacious obsidian base halford
  02/27/22
Are we taking it for granted that use of tactical nukes will...
swashbuckling tan shrine giraffe
  02/27/22
Yes
supple station
  02/27/22
Libs are doing the gender / identity routine with the arsena...
180 sneaky criminal
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Multi-colored dingle berry circlehead
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Diverse state philosopher-king
  02/27/22
I would assume whomever starts the exchange will limit it to...
brilliant set
  02/27/22
If you think you might use ICBMs then it doesn't make a whol...
low-t aromatic macaca pervert
  02/27/22
Russians invading some other Russians is really not as big o...
Transparent National
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low-t aromatic macaca pervert
  02/27/22
this is just a china test.
Rambunctious mediation
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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:10 AM
Author: flatulent hairless friendly grandma business firm

and with 1/12 of the intellectual horsepower that we had in the 50s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044665)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:10 AM
Author: carmine haunted graveyard old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044669)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:11 AM
Author: marvelous cocky corner

Lower IQ than that man. Microplastics aren't a joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044671)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:13 AM
Author: flatulent hairless friendly grandma business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044683)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:11 AM
Author: supple station

CR in the past we had qualified rational leaders now we have a pants shitting senile moron backed by an idiot who fucked and sucked her way into power and a “brain trust” of purple haired tranny freaks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044674)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:13 AM
Author: flatulent hairless friendly grandma business firm

we're so fucked jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044684)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:14 AM
Author: painfully honest wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044687)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:14 AM
Author: Cracking clown striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044692)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:19 AM
Author: Flushed Fantasy-prone Rigor Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044721)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:32 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044788)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:35 AM
Author: Multi-colored dingle berry circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044808)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:51 AM
Author: histrionic anal kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045473)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:52 AM
Author: Fragrant hilarious rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045480)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:08 PM
Author: Chocolate Goyim Sound Barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046027)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:19 PM
Author: grizzly menage knife

in a perfect we'd have hungover fordham grads who can't write running things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046135)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:34 PM
Author: supple station

You're a retarded felon who couldn't finish HS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046272)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 2:03 PM
Author: Galvanic party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046539)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 4:22 PM
Author: well-lubricated hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44047502)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 7:32 PM
Author: amethyst talented new version nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44048835)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:21 PM
Author: nubile messiness box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44050035)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:15 AM
Author: low-t aromatic macaca pervert

Bullshit, this is all posturing by Putin. You don't tell the world you're going on nuclear alert if you plan to use them. Thus giving us time to send more boomer subs on patrol, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044698)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:17 AM
Author: Diverse state philosopher-king

I think this is just to make sure that there is no interference in Ukraine.

He's talking with the Ukrainian leader soon so I think there may be an end to this in sight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044703)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:18 AM
Author: low-t aromatic macaca pervert

Yeah, it's an entirely predictable shot across the bow and what he's done his entire time as Russian leader. They even had a "nuclear drill" right before invading Ukraine.

With the war going against him and sanctions biting harder, it would have been surprising if he DIDN'T play this card.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044715)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:24 AM
Author: Diverse state philosopher-king

From my perspective, it seems like this is a good outcome.

Putin's increased oil prices significantly, likely for a good while as well, so Russia's economic situation is much better now. Sanctions counteract that, which mean that he wants to see those go away or get reduced.

He's also taken some territory in regions that are predominately Russian, so he can incorporate those places into Russia and has some nominal gains there, plus a nationalistic legacy.

If there are negotiations to allow some of the Ukrainian regions to vote to become part of Russia, redrawing of borders in a more solid faction and a permanent stalemate/cessation of hostilities from both sides, there is no longer a NATO issue if there has been a mutually agreeable outcome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044742)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:25 AM
Author: low-t aromatic macaca pervert

What really hurts Russia long-term is that Europe will move to other sources of energy than Russian gas. That hurts Russia badly both in their pocketbook and in their leverage over Europe.

The rest of this stuff will fade with time, but that will have a lasting effect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044754)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:46 AM
Author: 180 sneaky criminal

They cant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045434)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:49 AM
Author: Flushed Fantasy-prone Rigor Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045461)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 12:15 PM
Author: duck-like idiotic piazza

because transportation of liquified natural gas is still too cost prohibitive but that will change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045637)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 4:00 PM
Author: Excitant Pistol Home

Lol there’s more cheap gas in Algeria than all of Russia. And with Israel and KSA new best buds, Europeans have all the energy they’ll ever need.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44047324)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:26 AM
Author: Purple heaven

If NATO weapons flow into Ukraine he will ABSOLUTELY nuke Poland to end the flow. He has said as much and not believing him at this point is what is insane. People keep calling me flame but its not flame when the man with the nukes is actually arming them. This is deadly serious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044760)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:28 AM
Author: supple station

Why do all our (((pols))) want nuclear war

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044767)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:31 AM
Author: Purple heaven

Russia is conventionally inferior so it will secure security guarantees either by treaty or by making buffers and if its attempt at making buffers by conventional forces is rebuffed it will use nukes to empty the land. Oddly enough the US in Russia's shoes would do the same. That was what happened in Cuba when the US had conventional inferiority.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044782)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:35 AM
Author: low-t aromatic macaca pervert

"Russia is conventionally inferior"

Don't recall you admitting that before.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044814)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:42 AM
Author: supple station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044863)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:54 AM
Author: carmine haunted graveyard old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044979)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:46 AM
Author: vibrant bright voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045438)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: maize appetizing den gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045885)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 2:10 PM
Author: Green infuriating bawdyhouse becky

This war has clearly demonstrated it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046592)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:55 AM
Author: carmine haunted graveyard old irish cottage

wait the US sent its armed forces into Cuba, got its ass handed to it, and then nuked Cuba into glass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044988)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:59 AM
Author: Purple heaven

It secured the buffer zone by agreement or it absolutely would have. That was what 1962 was about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045041)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:52 AM
Author: carmine haunted graveyard old irish cottage

it didn't get to install a puppet regime or break off chunks of cuba like russia is trying to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045478)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:07 PM
Author: well-lubricated hell

Aren’t you Jewish lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046009)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:29 AM
Author: chest-beating stirring theater stage hairy legs

Upvoted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044770)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:34 AM
Author: low-t aromatic macaca pervert

LOL, what the fuck do you think this is?

https://www.perild.com/2022/02/25/weapons-arrived-in-ukraine-from-poland/

Eagerly awaiting nuking of Poland.

There's a long-established Cold War playbook. You're allowed to arm the other side in these proxy wars, just don't get openly involved in the fighting yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044803)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:40 AM
Author: low-t aromatic macaca pervert

Even Latvia sent Stingers, and they border Russia: https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/latvia-to-deliver-anti-aircraft-missiles-to-ukraine-on-tuesday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44044849)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:41 AM
Author: Purple heaven

Ukraine is Russia. Thats what Yankee idiots dont understand and why WW3 is basically here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045394)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:42 AM
Author: low-t aromatic macaca pervert

How has this fact eluded Ukrainians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045406)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:43 AM
Author: Purple heaven

Those who resist this reality will all die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045415)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:03 PM
Author: Fighting wine crackhouse sandwich

Date: February 27th, 2022 11:43 AM

Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

Those who resist this reality will all die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045974)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:02 PM
Author: Fighting wine crackhouse sandwich

Everyone please heed the dire warnings of the idiot who has been wrong about everything the entire time, thank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045953)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:27 PM
Author: honey-headed cuckoldry lay

Retard. NATO weapons have been in ukraine since the beginning.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44050084)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:47 AM
Author: nubile messiness box office

Rofl xo still thinks Putin is some kind all-powerful strategic genius 🤡🤡🤡

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045442)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:49 AM
Author: Purple heaven

Strelkov is in charge now. The Russian nationalist generals are to Putins right and have been advocating for this since 2014.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045459)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:51 AM
Author: swashbuckling tan shrine giraffe

https://imgur.com/a/xMvdze4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045477)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:53 AM
Author: nubile messiness box office

Fraudcam zooming in on bald spot IRL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045494)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 12:09 PM
Author: carmine haunted graveyard old irish cottage

zelensky with his defense minister today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMnkMpIX0AwYQIK?format=jpg&name=small

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045587)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: nubile messiness box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045643)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:59 PM
Author: swashbuckling tan shrine giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44050792)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:53 AM
Author: nubile messiness box office

1968: Abrams replaces Westmoreland. “Now our victory is all but assured!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045487)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:58 AM
Author: Mauve Beady-eyed Half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045515)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:57 AM
Author: vivacious obsidian base halford

DROP THE BOMB

EXTERMINATE THEM ALL!

APOCALYPSE NOW!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44045509)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:14 PM
Author: swashbuckling tan shrine giraffe

Are we taking it for granted that use of tactical nukes will escalate to use of strategic nukes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046073)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:15 PM
Author: supple station

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046081)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:15 PM
Author: 180 sneaky criminal

Libs are doing the gender / identity routine with the arsenal so we already have shit like trans-nukes and so on, there really won't be any difference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046092)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:17 PM
Author: Multi-colored dingle berry circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046115)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:39 PM
Author: Diverse state philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046308)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 1:33 PM
Author: brilliant set

I would assume whomever starts the exchange will limit it to one nuclear weapon aimed at a military target, and there will be a response in kind.

It's hard for me to believe the aggressor begins by launching thousands of nukes in a full MAD scenario.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44046260)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 3:17 PM
Author: low-t aromatic macaca pervert

If you think you might use ICBMs then it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to tell a press conference that you're going on nuclear alert, thus giving the other side to sortie more missile submarines, etc.

This is all tough talk, just like Russia has been doing for years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44047032)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:29 PM
Author: Transparent National

Russians invading some other Russians is really not as big of a deal as installing missiles in Cuba to directly threaten the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5043239&forum_id=2#44050099)



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Date: February 27th, 2022 11:50 PM
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Date: February 27th, 2022 10:33 PM
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