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why did pop culture music movies etc fall off a cliff around 10 years ago
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Date: December 6th, 2023 6:49 PM Author: Awkward business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47141560) |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 6:59 PM Author: erotic trust fund It's essential to GC business model that nothing truly inspiring or innovative ever happens. The main reason for this is that they need life to be a joyless slog for working white collar adults. It's kind of like being in coach on an airplane. No one really thinks first class is that great, it's just great because coach sucks. They need life to be miserable so you believe that consooming holds all the answers.
The other reason is that they need to forcememe tech and finance as the only growth sectors of the economy. To elites, the only thing that matters is tech companies innovating, and the financial instruments that derive from the disruption. The truth is that tech has not fundamentally benefitted anyone in any way except for the shareholders of tech companies. As much of a "genius" as Elon is, his most profitable venture is just cars. Like, we already had cars. Social media did not reinvent socialization. In fact, in all instances it made life worse for everyone.
The reason this pertains to great art dying is that great art is inherently transcendent and uplifting. If you had too many experiences that made you feel alive you would immediately quit your GC hellscape job and demand a low cost way of life that did not solely exist to grow wealth for a small group of investors and tech entrepreneurs at the top while everyone else suffered in misery. They cannot let that happen.
Also they figured out how to make record profits off of music and movies that suck completely by making it impossible to consume anything substantive. By offering no Choice, the consumer has been conditioned to expect nothing great. Also the West is all third world mud people who have no affinity for the Anglo American cultural tradition of making mind blowing music and movies. Imagine showing The Godfather to a Mexican they wouldn't get it. These people think the Disney versions of Star Wars are better because they have better special effects. You can't teach the western canon of storytelling to these people the same way the Conquistadors couldn't explain the Bible to the Indians. It's over. |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 7:07 PM Author: Grizzly Passionate Pisswyrm Ceo There was an huge amount of good TV made in the last ten years, and streaming also prompted literally hundreds of awesome documentaries to be made. Fewer features but definitely some solid ones. But eg a show like Mindhunter was 1) fantastic, and 2) sucking up all the time and energy of one of the five greatest living directors, so movies naturally took a hit. There were other cool things, though, like Ryan Murphy doing all of his American Crime Story shows. But in general, v TV series, making movies and music that succeeded in the new winner take all hyper distributed market for larger audiences became harder and harder, especially when so many of the best release dates on the calendar were filled up with new iterations of big tent pole IP like Star Wars, Marvel, DC etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47141625) |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 7:49 PM Author: erotic trust fund This is ridiculous cope from someone with zero taste. Mindhunter didn't take up a decade of Fincher's life and the second season was trash. Wow the second he started making shows about blacks and movies about Jews (Mank) they sucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47141697) |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 8:02 PM Author: Grizzly Passionate Pisswyrm Ceo (faggot who hasn’t even seen The Killer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47141731) |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 8:17 PM Author: mustard rehab To be fair,
LMAO oh yes could we forget about the Immortal Work Of Art(TM) known as, "Mindhunter." |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 8:54 PM Author: erotic trust fund S1 was legit but then S2 they made the whole thing about blacks and then he made a movie about a Jew no one cared about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47141906) |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 10:44 PM Author: Dull principal's office Yep, the tried and true technique. Make a good first season and then you get the visit from a civil rights lawyer in a secure soundproof conference room. You are threatened immediately with a civil rights lawsuit unless the next season is blacked up. The lawyer has a binder full of black actor headshots. You know what to do to make the threat stop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47142384) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 7:38 AM Author: erotic trust fund There were some real rising star white actors in S1 who disappeared in S2. For real their whole careers could have gone a different way. By the end of S2 it was just stock footage from Selma that's how woke it got. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47143036) |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 10:45 PM Author: pale spot circlehead The Killer is good but it would be completely unnotable if released in the 90s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47142387) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 1:16 AM Author: Grizzly Passionate Pisswyrm Ceo The His Name is Robert Paulson guy was fantastic and if you couldn’t enjoy his performance opposite Graff you should probably just not try to watch anything on TV and maintain your strict regimen of 20 hours of megapoasting per day. For the rest of you I’ll throw out another example of a show that’s awesome and wildly underrated: The Americans.
Anyway you guys are being huge faggots about this and talking past the more basic point I made that probably 40% of the 50 best TV shows ever came out in the last 10 years during the peak of streaming content budgets.
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Date: December 7th, 2023 7:36 AM Author: erotic trust fund The Americans while I give it some points for being unique and original descended into utterly preposterous and unbelievable plot points so rapidly I can't even remember when I stopped watching it. It wasn't a bad show but definitely not underrated. Some of the goings on were absolute bonkers and beyond impossible to believe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47143035) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 1:20 PM Author: Grizzly Passionate Pisswyrm Ceo If you didn’t watch the last season you missed out and can’t really opine on the quality of the show overall. But nonetheless, an objectively awesome cast and a great premise that’s written by people who were IRL involved with this world. It’s a very good show and was not possible pre-streaming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47144173) |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 8:57 PM Author: bat shit crazy cuckold i refuse to believe you just unironically brought up Ryan Murphy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47141923) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 1:12 AM Author: Grizzly Passionate Pisswyrm Ceo Did you watch Dahmer? It’s about to win like 10 Emmys because it was probably the best show on TV last year. The American Crime Story limited series are great. Particularly the OJ one that launched Sterling K Brown and the Johnny Cochran dude was fantastic. The Clinton one was good overall but Jonah Hill’s little sister didn’t quite pull it off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47142689) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 7:41 AM Author: vivacious infuriating site azn Mindhunter was only good for the interviews, everything having to do with the personal lives of the investigators was boring as hell and I skipped. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47143039) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 7:42 AM Author: erotic trust fund The problem is the actor who played the main guy was too gay to play a straight person. Zero chemistry in the romance scenes. Dude's just way too gay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47143041) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 7:50 AM Author: vivacious infuriating site azn Also the dyke and her 'romance', lol who cares. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47143056) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 1:17 PM Author: Grizzly Passionate Pisswyrm Ceo This entire Z plot line took maybe five minutes of screen time? Definitely less than 10. Consider whether there’s some other reason that you specifically get so triggered by a show adding a bit of characterization that includes the fact that the character is a gay person. In the late 70s that made for an interesting set of incentives at work (which is where the show actually takes place). Perhaps there’s some reason specific to you that this makes you so upset. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47144159) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 3:43 PM Author: erotic trust fund (Mindhunter showrunner) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47144777) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 4:00 PM Author: Grizzly Passionate Pisswyrm Ceo Thank you for the compliment of confusing me with David Fincher (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47144847) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 5:32 PM Author: erotic trust fund To be fair you seem extremely mentally unstable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47144998) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 1:14 PM Author: Grizzly Passionate Pisswyrm Ceo Did you just watch the pilot and stop after that? Or are you yourself gay (genuinely asking as I imagine that would make it harder to watch)?
The whole point of the show is them interviewing serial killers and solving crimes. The romance was understood by any viewer who possesses a triple digit IQ to be a bit of character development to let you know that this dude lives for the job. There’s a plausible reading of his romance plot that you’re supposed to suspect that he’s actually gay and just so far in the closet that he can’t even admit it to himself, and his cope is instead that he lives for his work. Wouldn’t be the first show/movie with that kind of a character. |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 3:44 PM Author: erotic trust fund The actor who plays the main guy is extremely over the top gay in real life and has zero chemistry with bio females. Made it unbelievable not some deep character development. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47144780) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 7:45 AM Author: Primrose macaca the quality of TV in the last ten years pales in comparison to the decade before (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47143046) |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 1:10 PM Author: Grizzly Passionate Pisswyrm Ceo That’s true at the very high end. The streaming content glut succeeded in producing infinity shows that were all like B+/A- content, but that was faaaaar better than what was available at the movies or in music or what traditional cable and broadcast would’ve done otherwise. Also, again, the documentaries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47144110) |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 8:15 PM Author: Cream boistinker gas station Part of it is definitely Hollywood going even more woke.
But I think the business model of Hollywood has to be to blame at this point.
Studios are investing only in expensive movies, which means only less risky movies are made (sequels and comic books and reboots).
The streaming platforms seem like you had have some great TV shows - but the quality is a noticeable drop off from the 2000s era. I'm not sure why - too many shows, assuming everyone will watch every episode in order, shows becoming more niche -- but the results are in, and streaming shows suck compared to 2000 era HBO, Showtime, AMC shows - and probably even compared to network dramas at the time. |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 8:27 PM Author: soggy cumskin it's the chinese middle class market that made movies recently drop off a cliff. hollywood is now making movies for the chinese market as well, and chinese are stupid as fuck.
music is still going, i think. at a lower level than the 90s, but still kinda going.
tv is at a pretty high level right now, still, i think. |
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Date: December 12th, 2023 3:45 AM Author: Exhilarant Shitlib i watched a big-budget chinese film from 2023 (full river red), and it was significantly better than most hollywood output, aside from its very blunt and didactic propaganda ending. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47160699) |
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Date: December 6th, 2023 8:37 PM Author: Iridescent cuckoldry sanctuary more than anything its that the people running the industry are just incompetent now imo.
somebody poasted a graphic here not long ago showing the changes in racial and gender ratios in hollywood jobs(producer director writer etc) over the past decades and it was insane. add in that so many of the "white" males that somehow get those jobs these days are nepotism retards and its no wonder everything sucks |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 1:15 AM Author: Gay base you got old, mainstream entertainment has almost always sucked, you only know about the good shit from the 60's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5456372&forum_id=2#47142695) |
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