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Sopranos one-episode female characters (D-girl Amy, stripper Tracee) = 180

The hollywood development girl red-head that briefly fucks C...
cell phones
  01/12/26
She was in 2 eps I think but Lorraine Caluzzo
slush puppie
  01/12/26
cr. it wasnt all home runs. the female napolitana crime b...
cell phones
  01/12/26
Yeah when she brings ralphie the pop tarts and Fresca is poi...
slush puppie
  01/12/26
Sil coming to pick her up amd her her back to work is memora...
FUCK LIBS
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Kenneth Play
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dupa
  01/12/26
(Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie)
bloody benchod bastard
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Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings
  01/12/26
the D-girl episode was stupid. same with anything involving ...
dried up stinky dick licker
  01/12/26
I sort of agree with this. It’s a convo ppl may not be...
slush puppie
  01/12/26
yes. Jon Favreau and a hollywood exec decide to befriend and...
dupa
  01/12/26
and christopher being a hood from newark just happens to hav...
dried up stinky dick licker
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dupa
  01/12/26
idk. its interspersed with tony appreciating gangster films ...
cell phones
  01/12/26
the roof is soft tar!
dupa
  01/12/26
Idk why but I believe Jon Favreau would be a fanboy faggot i...
slush puppie
  01/12/26
jon favreau thought the conceit was believable enough that h...
kevin eubanks and the tonight show band
  01/12/26
tracee was only in one episode? holy shit.
kevin eubanks and the tonight show band
  01/12/26
they also I don't think ever showed the Bing private room ex...
dried up stinky dick licker
  01/12/26
She was in two episodes but the point still stands. If Sopr...
.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,,.,.,..,>,...
  01/12/26
agreed, two episodes is still surprising given what an emoti...
kevin eubanks and the tonight show band
  01/12/26
i believe she is only in "university" from S3. She...
cell phones
  01/12/26
it helps that the characters are so well-developed (or, in t...
kevin eubanks and the tonight show band
  01/12/26
when you go back and watch these well written shows every ep...
Ozzie Canseco
  01/12/26
yeah i had the same reaction.
dupa
  01/12/26
tertiary characters were often given very spiky personality ...
kevin eubanks and the tonight show band
  01/12/26
That episode was so long ago that Tracee's baby would now be...
.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,,.,.,..,>,...
  01/12/26
Carter Chong was only 1 episode too? He was a pretty well de...
dupa
  01/12/26
The stuff with Favreau had some really funny shit - him init...
Labia Menorah
  01/12/26
the car ride home at the end of “christopher,” f...
kevin eubanks and the tonight show band
  01/12/26
wtf that episode is phenomenal. Just Karen’s death, bo...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  01/12/26
take it up with frankie valli when you talk to him.
kevin eubanks and the tonight show band
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#BrianJacquesMindset
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"that girl's a thoroughbred" btw this is foresh...
Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings
  01/12/26
multiple watches i dont think i ever caught the thoroughbred...
cell phones
  01/12/26
it's when silvio talks about lending her money for braces wh...
Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings
  01/12/26
And at least according to the Ralphie actor, he was playing ...
.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,,.,.,..,>,...
  01/12/26
cr. there's a lot wrapped up in it. tony also sees tracee/ho...
Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings
  01/12/26
Don't disagree, but it also ties into Tony's psychological ...
Labia Menorah
  01/12/26
yes, tony is a sociopath. but that behavior is about justify...
Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings
  01/12/26
He was supposed to be an architect
Labia Menorah
  01/12/26
cereal box confirmed IQ of 149
Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings
  01/12/26
yep and the stray cat they adopt at Satriallies who stares a...
dried up stinky dick licker
  01/12/26
Did you sniff that girls' panties?
Labia Menorah
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Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings
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You’re missing a big one: Fran Felstein. when she almo...
solace and wallace
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Tony realizing she was a washed up birdbrain slore when she ...
dried up stinky dick licker
  01/12/26
clearly the worst episode of the sopranos
bloody benchod bastard
  01/12/26
yeah it was a real clunker but for a 1 episode character she...
dupa
  01/12/26
She was a repellent kike. Both Steve Buscemi-directed episod...
joran tindersloot
  01/12/26
Never seen any sopranos outside of online memes BUT it&rsquo...
#BrianJacquesMindset
  01/12/26
no, stay golden ponyboy. you are bigger (and better) than te...
cell phones
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FUCK LIBS
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The old slore junior eats out in Boca then smashes her face ...
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Date: January 12th, 2026 8:51 AM
Author: cell phones

The hollywood development girl red-head that briefly fucks Christopher, and the pregnant stripper Ralphie kills are both not only smoking hot, but have enough subtlety and character to last seasons.

Sopranos would introduce them and dispose of them in one episode.

They were writing and casting on a level that still cannot be touched by anyone else ever

but still somehow we have years of Charmaine, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582711)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: slush puppie

She was in 2 eps I think but Lorraine Caluzzo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582714)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 8:58 AM
Author: cell phones

cr.

it wasnt all home runs. the female napolitana crime boss was lulzy, poorly cast.

but when they really hit, it was insane.

i watched the tracee episode ("university") last night. it was obviously "about" young women and their mistreatment, etc., mashing meadow and the stripper and meadow's roommate and carmela.

But never heavy-handed, never feminist, never moralizing... just telling stories about girls and women. Allowing the characters to breathe and be real and make decisions and have consequences.

Tracee maybe has 20 minutes screentime max, but she is unforgettable, and a completely full and three-dimensional character.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582721)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:01 AM
Author: slush puppie

Yeah when she brings ralphie the pop tarts and Fresca is poignant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582724)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: FUCK LIBS (TDNW)

Sil coming to pick her up amd her her back to work is memorable too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49584009)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:15 AM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582744)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: Quality Learing Center alumnus (✅🍑)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582759)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:38 AM
Author: dupa



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582769)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:14 AM
Author: bloody benchod bastard

(Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582833)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:34 PM
Author: Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings (gunneratttt)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583224)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:28 AM
Author: dried up stinky dick licker

the D-girl episode was stupid. same with anything involving christopher and his movie shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582755)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: slush puppie

I sort of agree with this. It’s a convo ppl may not be ready to have but the sopranos got wobbly with plot lines in the later seasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582760)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:39 AM
Author: dupa

yes. Jon Favreau and a hollywood exec decide to befriend and hang around a relatively low level (at the time) mob associate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582771)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:09 AM
Author: dried up stinky dick licker

and christopher being a hood from newark just happens to have a cousin in LA with Hollywood connections

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582813)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:13 AM
Author: dupa



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582828)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:12 AM
Author: cell phones

idk. its interspersed with tony appreciating gangster films and aims at meta-commentary about movies and tv about mafioso.

Favreau immediately betraying Chris and the redhead pumping and dumping him deflate the main characters well, reminding us that they are, in fact, scum who we all enjoy watching but who have no humanity to us.

a smart show about mafia in the 2000s somehow has to deal with mafia media, and this was pretty well done imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582824)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:14 AM
Author: dupa

the roof is soft tar!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582834)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:19 AM
Author: slush puppie

Idk why but I believe Jon Favreau would be a fanboy faggot irl in the presence of an alleged “real mobster”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582855)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:21 AM
Author: kevin eubanks and the tonight show band

jon favreau thought the conceit was believable enough that he was willing to portray himself as a ridiculous clown in service to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582861)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: kevin eubanks and the tonight show band

tracee was only in one episode? holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582757)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:31 AM
Author: dried up stinky dick licker

they also I don't think ever showed the Bing private room except for that one ep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582762)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:33 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,,.,.,..,>,... ( )


She was in two episodes but the point still stands. If Sopranos was made today she would have an eight episode girl power arc to make the same fucking point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582763)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:35 AM
Author: kevin eubanks and the tonight show band

agreed, two episodes is still surprising given what an emotional impact her character had. ralphie laughing at sil slapping her around was maybe the most evil thing he did, including killing her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582766)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:06 AM
Author: cell phones

i believe she is only in "university" from S3. She is det by the end. Idr if she has flashbacks appearances later, but she is not in the previous episodes

one of the things that made me doubt my own memory is that, as i recall, in her first lines she approaches tony to thank him for recommending that she take her kid to the doctor. I wondered if I missed that in some other episode, but I believe they just start her in media res.

very smartly give her a backstory and context just in a single line of dialogue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582807)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:14 AM
Author: kevin eubanks and the tonight show band

it helps that the characters are so well-developed (or, in tracee’s case, envisioned) that you know exactly how that conversation went. tony was annoyed to be having the conversation and gave her the most obvious brush-off answer, was a little bit repulsed to have to give such obvious advice to a mother, and felt a little genuinely sympathy that the answer wasn’t so obvious for her. she, conversely, is either so stupid that she doesn’t know the answer or so stupid that she thinks pretending not to is a good conversation starter for her boss’s boss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582829)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:39 AM
Author: Ozzie Canseco

when you go back and watch these well written shows every episode in hindsight feels like a whole season. narcos and the shield come to mind.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582770)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:40 AM
Author: dupa

yeah i had the same reaction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582772)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:38 AM
Author: kevin eubanks and the tonight show band

tertiary characters were often given very spiky personality traits that made them seem like real people. carmela’s dad absolutely loving tony always cracked me up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582768)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:40 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,,.,.,..,>,... ( )


That episode was so long ago that Tracee's baby would now be old enough to be a stripper at the bing. Actually she would be in her mid-20's and hitting the point where a lot of strippers become somebody's wife and quit stripping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582773)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:45 AM
Author: dupa

Carter Chong was only 1 episode too? He was a pretty well developed character.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582779)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: Labia Menorah

The stuff with Favreau had some really funny shit - him initially thinking Christopher was there from a magazine to talk about his favorite places to eat, "Vince Vaughn wasn't there!", making fun of him and Swingers, etc.

Ralphie laughing his ass off through the window while Silvio smacks Tracee around is hilarious. "Why was i born handsome instead of rich?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582873)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:30 AM
Author: kevin eubanks and the tonight show band

the car ride home at the end of “christopher,” famously one of the worst episodes of the show, is one of the funniest parts of the whole series.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582881)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:49 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


wtf that episode is phenomenal. Just Karen’s death, both for the Bobby Bacala performance, which is amazing, and all the awesome beats like the mob wives watching him crying over her casket and then looking over at their husbands. Ralph’s exchange with Del Redclay shot from Redclay’s POV where Ralph threatens to out Iron Eyes Cody. Carmela’s “whaddaya gonna do” in the parking lot after the speaker that Fr. Intintola hosts drops her mafia diss. Those are all iconic scenes that are regularly referenced today by Sopranos nerds. People hating on that episode are just mad that the mafia guys lose a fight to some bitchy libs. It’s like Star Wars fags who get so incensed about anything other than New Hope and Empire because their main attachment to the story is light sabers making them forget their feelings of insecurity about their tiny pisswyrms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583080)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: kevin eubanks and the tonight show band

take it up with frankie valli when you talk to him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583217)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:36 AM
Author: #BrianJacquesMindset



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582899)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:39 AM
Author: Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings (gunneratttt)

"that girl's a thoroughbred"

btw this is foreshadowing for tony killing ralphie over pie-o-mly really being about his rage over him killing tracee and tonys desire to protect innocent, harmless things.

"she was a beautiful, innocent creature and you killed her!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582905)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:41 AM
Author: cell phones

multiple watches i dont think i ever caught the thoroughbred line.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582911)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:43 AM
Author: Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings (gunneratttt)

it's when silvio talks about lending her money for braces when most of the girls want fake tits, but she doesn't need them.

every time i rematch i pick up stuff like that. truly an amazing show.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582916)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:55 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,,.,.,..,>,... ( )


And at least according to the Ralphie actor, he was playing it so that he genuinely had nothing to do with the death of the horse. I think I prefer that interpretation, although the show leaves it ambitious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582937)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:17 AM
Author: Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings (gunneratttt)

cr. there's a lot wrapped up in it. tony also sees tracee/horse as meadow, there's that scene at the party where he looks at her and gets flashbacks of tracee. he's battling his internal conflict over being part of that corruption, and how in another world meadow could have been a tracee and exploited by someone like tony.

there's also the obvious power struggle and personality clash between ralph and tony. but that doesn't explain how emotional it was. if he just wanted to kill ralph because he was disobedient and just didnt like him it wouldnt be so charged.

the decision to make it ambiguous was a great one, because it really has nothing to do with the horse. it has to do with what tony projected onto the horse, primarily tracee, and ralph *did* kill her with the same blithe unconcern.

"she was a fuckin' whooo-eer!"

"it was a fuckin' horse, what are you, a vegetarian?"

also note that this is preceded by ralph saying tony doesn't complain when he brings him a fat envelope. tony isn't just upset that ralph was cruel to an innocent thing, he's upset that he's complicit in it. every scene with him and tracee he's disregarding her. being forced to confront his role and thus his hypocrisy is what sends tony off the edge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582988)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:24 AM
Author: Labia Menorah

Don't disagree, but it also ties into Tony's psychological makeup that they're revealing with Melfi. It ends up being her husband i think that nudges her over the cliff with him. How he's basically incapable of improvement/treatment.

One of the things that I distinctly remember is how they mention that people like Tony are savage and uncaring towards adults but have an exaggerated warmth and caring towards animals and children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583002)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings (gunneratttt)

yes, tony is a sociopath. but that behavior is about justifying wanting to believe you are a good person while doing horrible things.

part of this is because tony isn't a born sociopath -- he became one to cope with his mobster destiny. hence the panic attacks. contrast that with ralphie who has no misgivings and actually revels in his cruelty (e.g. giggling as silvio snatches tracee from his house and slams her against his car.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583018)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:36 AM
Author: Labia Menorah

He was supposed to be an architect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583030)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:44 AM
Author: Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings (gunneratttt)

cereal box confirmed IQ of 149

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583061)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:01 AM
Author: dried up stinky dick licker

yep and the stray cat they adopt at Satriallies who stares at Christopher's picture on the wall is supposed to be Adriana reincarnated. the cat refence is because she did that meow shit in the massive genius rapper ep and also was always wearing leopard print panties and other shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582953)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:16 AM
Author: Labia Menorah

Did you sniff that girls' panties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582984)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:17 AM
Author: Smoked Double Baked Sweet Potato Skins and Wings (gunneratttt)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49582989)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:53 AM
Author: solace and wallace

You’re missing a big one: Fran Felstein. when she almost gave Tony a blowjob. 180 scene

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583087)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: dried up stinky dick licker

Tony realizing she was a washed up birdbrain slore when she did the JFK mr president song then lying to his buddies about how classy and beautiful she was to keep up his dad's legacy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583183)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:24 PM
Author: bloody benchod bastard

clearly the worst episode of the sopranos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583197)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:40 PM
Author: dupa

yeah it was a real clunker but for a 1 episode character she really hit it out of the park.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583247)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 4:31 PM
Author: joran tindersloot

She was a repellent kike. Both Steve Buscemi-directed episodes of the Sopranos are shit tier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49584032)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:27 PM
Author: #BrianJacquesMindset

Never seen any sopranos outside of online memes BUT it’s now tied with white lotus s1 at the top of my cultural literacy queue due to the gorgeous-souled OP, Thank for your time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583208)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 4:11 PM
Author: cell phones

no, stay golden ponyboy. you are bigger (and better) than television

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5821039&forum_id=2.#49583991)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 4:28 PM
Author: FUCK LIBS (TDNW)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:28 PM
Author: dried up stinky dick licker

The old slore junior eats out in Boca then smashes her face with a pie. also the nice old widow from Junior's neighborhood who befriends him while he's on house arrest and he blows her off even though he has nothing else to do but sit on his ass. sums up what a miserable fuck he was.

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