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Prole or prestigious: Ordering the wine pairing
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Date: April 11th, 2026 9:25 PM Author: Narrow-minded mexican crackhouse On the one hand, a tasting menu is very prestigious, and a wine pairing is like a tasting menu for beverages. On the other hand, the sommelier isn't going to pour his best wines out 2.5 oz at a time to hundreds of diners a night. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811407) |
Date: April 11th, 2026 9:30 PM Author: nubile olive range prole tell: a restaurant where the menu isnt a tasting menu solely (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811412) |
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Date: April 11th, 2026 9:32 PM Author: Galvanic psychic wouldn't pouring hundreds of glasses a night result in a more efficient use of nice wine than hoping some sap orders one particular bottle? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811416) |
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Date: April 11th, 2026 9:35 PM Author: Titillating canary brunch candlestick maker i think hes talking about sommelier unwilling to part with his best wines in the tension between sommelier and the menu maker which i assume is chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811421) |
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Date: April 11th, 2026 9:45 PM Author: Galvanic psychic I think there is a marked difference between going out to have a fancy dinner and getting wine and deciding you are going to get a bottle fancy enough that the sommelier at a michilin tier restaurant considers it precious, obviously there are crazy levels of that shit but by then you've gone well past prestigious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811440) |
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Date: April 11th, 2026 9:39 PM Author: Narrow-minded mexican crackhouse In practice I've never seen a wine pairing with Château Lafite Rothschild or anything like that. It's always New World wines or stuff from Austria or Armenia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811425) |
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Date: April 11th, 2026 9:43 PM Author: nubile olive range i assume the markup on the wine pairings is similar to the markup on individual bottles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811433) |
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Date: April 11th, 2026 9:34 PM Author: Violet station Going to restaurants is a prole tell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811419) |
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Date: April 12th, 2026 3:39 PM Author: Gay Grandpa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49812686) |
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Date: April 11th, 2026 9:42 PM Author: Shivering Boistinker Marketing Idea wine pairing is prestigious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811432) |
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Date: April 11th, 2026 9:46 PM Author: Salmon kitty cat forum prestigious
you don't order the wine pairing to drink exceptional wine, you order it to try wines you've never heard of that are really good and priced at a decent enough price point to make it a viable everyday drinker. |
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Date: April 11th, 2026 9:54 PM Author: nubile olive range you also order it because it's nice to try 10 different wines that go with different dishes versus have 1-2 bottles all night of the same shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811463) |
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Date: April 11th, 2026 9:55 PM Author: Salmon kitty cat forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811464) |
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Date: April 11th, 2026 10:12 PM Author: indigo theatre Moderately prestigious. A fancy tasting menu and beverages curated to it carries some prestige. But matching not only the courses but your tastes as well is more prestigious. FWIW, the French Laundry is in the heart of one of the world's great wine regions and does not offer a wine pairing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49811518) |
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Date: April 12th, 2026 3:38 PM Author: Zyn Rewards Redeemer Yes they do. You name your price point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856172&forum_id=2.#49812682) |
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Date: April 12th, 2026 3:52 PM Author: confusion of the highest order 15 years ago I went to a hole-in-the-wall in Paris charging 45 euros for a prix fixe dinner
the owner was the one on duty and he asked me whether I wanted a wine pairing
I said yes and it was the only good wine I've ever had in my entire life |
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Date: April 12th, 2026 3:55 PM Author: .,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,.., I’m not sure you can blanket answer this. There are still very good wine pairings in fine dining out there. More commonly, places will now have a prole tier that has “interesting” options (new world, cocktails, natty) interspersed with the more classic, totemic pairings. You’ll have to pay more for a “reserve” pairing that should really be the standard. And then as always, a lot of somms miss on their pairings when it comes to the actual taste, or don’t pivot the pairing when the kitchen adjusts the flavors in the set. It’s sadly become quite common for wine standard pairings to be composed mostly of garbage, and not even well paired garbage.
In a lot of instances, the more prestigious move is to have a glass of champagne with the amuse and then shift to a single, compatible red and white option for the table. A separate pairing with dessert. This is my default these days, unless I feel confident enough in the restaurant. |