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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM Author: spiritual hazmat suit (דירה בתחתונים) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515456) |
Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515464) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: spiritual hazmat suit (דירה בתחתונים) 18000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515486) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM Author: Shlomo Dreidlowitz The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515508) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515518) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Shlomo Dreidlowitz The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515523) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515534) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: Shlomo Dreidlowitz Guns are muktzah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515647) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM Author: spiritual hazmat suit (דירה בתחתונים) I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515667) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:
In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.
https://outorah.org/p/21842/ |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM Author: Shlomo Dreidlowitz Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515928) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., state where you got semicha from before i engage you further (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515958) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM Author: Shlomo Dreidlowitz Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516569) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth) how do they get home? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515699) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., they still live in walking distance.
they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.
people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516177) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: richard clock presumably you couldnt fire the gun though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515525) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515537) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: jag Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515697) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515722) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM Author: Madison Avenue Lemming Enslaved to Conformity How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515731) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515735) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM Author: potluck i love scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515767) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM Author: santa's top guy genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516135) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516412) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM Author: potluck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516560) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM Author: CapTTTainFalcon is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515738) |