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Poll: Draft by "End of Day" Means 5 pm, 8 pm, midnight, 9 am next day?

Also--your time or their time?
dull bipolar wrinkle
  01/05/26
your time eod 12am
Beady-eyed range
  01/05/26
...
flushed know-it-all marketing idea
  01/05/26
Why midnight? Assume you don't have a reason to think the pe...
dull bipolar wrinkle
  01/05/26
“Assume you don't have a reason to think the people wa...
Jade confused abode
  01/05/26
eod = midnight cob = 1700
silver home
  01/05/26
...
insanely creepy galvanic rigor state
  01/05/26
Cr
crystalline nudist brunch newt
  01/05/26
...
stirring stead
  01/05/26
"When it's done"
bateful field
  01/05/26
What if it's not done until after EOD?
dull bipolar wrinkle
  01/05/26
Will flip this to you ASAP, thanks
bateful field
  01/05/26
...
lascivious messiness lodge
  01/05/26
depends on the context. court filing? midnight. in-house? li...
Out-of-control Provocative Legend
  01/05/26
Court filing is easy insofar as there will be a Local Rule. ...
dull bipolar wrinkle
  01/05/26
it depends on your office culture and who else is involved
Out-of-control Provocative Legend
  01/05/26
Biglaw trannies are also midnight, but 10 pm is far more app...
free-loading round eye
  01/05/26
Setting an artificial 4 pm deadline is wild. If someone want...
dull bipolar wrinkle
  01/05/26
I’m absolutely swamped with poasts to make
Gay racy boistinker corner
  01/05/26
Yes. The point of the 4 pm deadline is for them to pretend t...
free-loading round eye
  01/05/26
2pm if a scientist needs to review it
white school cafeteria
  01/05/26
...
insanely creepy galvanic rigor state
  01/05/26
...
lavender exhilarant heaven
  01/05/26
...
Insecure degenerate whorehouse
  01/05/26
usually means "within the hour"
grizzly razzle-dazzle box office idea he suggested
  01/05/26
9 or 10pm
Dead Aggressive Office
  01/05/26
Why those times? At 9, I might just be logging back on after...
dull bipolar wrinkle
  01/05/26
It generally means 5 or 6pm in the requestor’s time zo...
self-centered emerald library
  01/05/26
What is requestor is in Europe? Or you're on west coast, req...
dull bipolar wrinkle
  01/05/26
in house it means 5 to 6pm. biglaw it means midnight.
charismatic mad cow disease circlehead
  01/05/26
Cr.
orange adventurous trailer park
  01/05/26
...
wine 180 double fault space
  01/05/26
More precisely in biglaw, end of day means “before you...
Insecure degenerate whorehouse
  01/05/26
There’s going to be more punctuation at the end of tha...
self-centered emerald library
  01/06/26
lol
Insecure degenerate whorehouse
  01/07/26
At the end of the day, what does it matter?
Floppy Institution Keepsake Machete
  01/05/26
close of business means by 5pm, but end of day is anytime by...
offensive hideous electric furnace striped hyena
  01/06/26
You got it reversed
Insecure degenerate whorehouse
  01/07/26
...
;..;.;..;...;..;.;.;.;;;;
  01/13/26


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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: dull bipolar wrinkle

Also--your time or their time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564535)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:15 PM
Author: Beady-eyed range

your time eod 12am

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564546)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: flushed know-it-all marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564549)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: dull bipolar wrinkle

Why midnight? Assume you don't have a reason to think the people waiting on the draft are going to do another turn in the wee hours of the morning. So, at that point, what's the differences with doing (and billing for) a few more hours and sending it at 3 am?

And at that point, what's the difference with waiting to send it at 7 or 8 am, before the next workday starts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564561)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:50 PM
Author: Jade confused abode

“Assume you don't have a reason to think the people waiting on the draft are going to do another turn in the wee hours of the morning.”

what kind of penny-ante hobbyists are you working across from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564839)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: silver home

eod = midnight

cob = 1700

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564552)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: insanely creepy galvanic rigor state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564562)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:51 PM
Author: crystalline nudist brunch newt

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564673)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: stirring stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564678)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: bateful field

"When it's done"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564555)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: dull bipolar wrinkle

What if it's not done until after EOD?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564564)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:26 PM
Author: bateful field

Will flip this to you ASAP, thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564579)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: lascivious messiness lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49565826)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Out-of-control Provocative Legend

depends on the context. court filing? midnight. in-house? like 2pm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564560)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:23 PM
Author: dull bipolar wrinkle

Court filing is easy insofar as there will be a Local Rule.

For other work, I don't want to scramble to get things done by 2 pm--especially because it means I might get the next round of comments back the same day. I want to chill while things build up throughout the day, then scramble through several things between about 4:30 and 5:20.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564569)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Out-of-control Provocative Legend

it depends on your office culture and who else is involved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564624)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:25 PM
Author: free-loading round eye

Biglaw trannies are also midnight, but 10 pm is far more appreciated because it lets others bill easy hours before bed. Inhouse 2 pm is only west coast with east coast audience but most people specify “COB” and that means get it out by 4 your time so others have the option of reviewing before they leave to pick up their kids or after they put their kids to bed (they won’t actually review or respond for at least a week).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564576)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:31 PM
Author: dull bipolar wrinkle

Setting an artificial 4 pm deadline is wild. If someone wants to review it that day, they should say so and specify a time. People get jammed up with meetings, multiple agreements to review, poasts to make, etc.

Absolutely CR re "they won’t actually review or respond for at least a week," btw. There are two times for responses--5 minutes after you send and late next week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564589)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: Gay racy boistinker corner

I’m absolutely swamped with poasts to make

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564630)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:42 PM
Author: free-loading round eye

Yes. The point of the 4 pm deadline is for them to pretend that they are hardworking and for you to pass your own self-imposed shit test. But the logic of this makes sense the more exposure you have to senior execs/SVPs and other managers of managers who are running large organizations. Most of what they do is at least partially performative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564645)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:25 PM
Author: white school cafeteria

2pm if a scientist needs to review it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564577)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: insanely creepy galvanic rigor state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564629)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:06 PM
Author: lavender exhilarant heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564881)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:45 PM
Author: Insecure degenerate whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49565722)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:35 PM
Author: grizzly razzle-dazzle box office idea he suggested

usually means "within the hour"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564613)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:44 PM
Author: Dead Aggressive Office

9 or 10pm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564647)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:54 PM
Author: dull bipolar wrinkle

Why those times? At 9, I might just be logging back on after the kids go to bed. So, getting the draft out before I go to bed matches the EOD and my schedule better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564680)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: self-centered emerald library

It generally means 5 or 6pm in the requestor’s time zone if the person is either important or a client. In other cases it means before they log on the next morning.

Worst thing you can do is send it early enough to get comments back that night, after you’ve rushed to get it out, screwed off online for 90 mins to recuperate, and finally turned to the other work you were supposed to get done yesterday/today/last week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49564828)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 6:09 PM
Author: dull bipolar wrinkle

What is requestor is in Europe? Or you're on west coast, requestor is on east coast?

In either of those cases, it should mean before they log on the next morning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49565016)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 8:29 PM
Author: charismatic mad cow disease circlehead

in house it means 5 to 6pm. biglaw it means midnight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49565377)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:26 PM
Author: orange adventurous trailer park

Cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49565691)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:44 PM
Author: wine 180 double fault space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49565821)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:18 PM
Author: Insecure degenerate whorehouse

More precisely in biglaw, end of day means “before you go to bed and before I wake up.” But you better gird your ass if you misjudge that and get a “Where is the draft?” at 4 am.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49565681)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:13 PM
Author: self-centered emerald library

There’s going to be more punctuation at the end of that 4am email

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49567806)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Insecure degenerate whorehouse

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49569664)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: Floppy Institution Keepsake Machete

At the end of the day, what does it matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49565824)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:15 PM
Author: offensive hideous electric furnace striped hyena

close of business means by 5pm, but end of day is anytime by midnight for biglaw and by tomorrow dawn for mid-tier firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49567815)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 3:06 PM
Author: Insecure degenerate whorehouse

You got it reversed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49569669)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 10:42 PM
Author: ;..;.;..;...;..;.;.;.;;;;




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2.#49587793)