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Anyone Play Expedition 33

Mind blowing story in that game
Pea-brained Ceo
  06/28/25
if you mean "fucking retarded" I agree. great star...
idiotic forum kitty cat
  06/28/25
lol haha wtf bro that’s absolutely the opposite of the...
Pea-brained Ceo
  06/28/25
i beat the whole game. literally nothing happens. it has the...
idiotic forum kitty cat
  09/25/25
The main tension is concluded with act2, but act3's arc is s...
Comical hyperactive casino
  06/28/25
I don’t spend more than like $10 on western games
Chocolate rehab
  06/28/25
It’s Free on Gamepass
Pea-brained Ceo
  06/28/25
Gamepass isn’t free. I don’t spend more than $24...
Chocolate rehab
  06/28/25
I forgot you are Poor
Pea-brained Ceo
  06/28/25
I have PS5. Xbox is for poor people
Chocolate rehab
  06/28/25
You don’t even have the Pro. Your Death Stranding 2 pu...
razzle-dazzle sanctuary sandwich
  06/28/25
I got the 229,99 Loser Edition too. I am your better.
Chocolate rehab
  06/28/25
The best way of doing this is to have an Xbox, have Gamepass...
Gay soggy hall
  06/30/25
You can routinely get gamepass on sale. At ~$150/year (some...
Gay soggy hall
  06/30/25
Amazing game. Square acknowledged that it needs to go back t...
thriller range
  06/28/25
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Comical hyperactive casino
  06/28/25
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Pea-brained Ceo
  06/28/25
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thirsty overrated prole
  06/30/25
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.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  11/10/25
The Paintress did nothing wrong.
razzle-dazzle sanctuary sandwich
  06/30/25
what a triumph. the dodge/parry mechanic is a great way to m...
thirsty overrated prole
  06/30/25
Nah, not including the minimap was a great idea. More games ...
thriller range
  06/30/25
yeah i get it and like the old school rpg vibes but i keep r...
thirsty overrated prole
  06/30/25
Overall lack of mini map was good for immersion but I got tu...
Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse
  06/30/25
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thirsty overrated prole
  06/30/25
lol bro you're retarded. none of the areas even have complex...
idiotic forum kitty cat
  09/25/25
cowshit says “I never know where to go in western game...
razzle-dazzle sanctuary sandwich
  09/25/25
imagine him trying to play some game with old school map des...
idiotic forum kitty cat
  09/25/25
I just ended up going backwards a bit and wasted some time. ...
Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse
  09/25/25
(guy who got lost in the Kislev sewers for hours and fell do...
idiotic forum kitty cat
  09/26/25
Kislev sewers was annoying but fine. I do admit I had som...
Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse
  09/26/25
Elden Ring was honestly a big letdown and one of the few gam...
Gay soggy hall
  06/30/25
(Doodikoff)
thriller range
  06/30/25
this is a great game for doodikoff. he can finally feel like...
thirsty overrated prole
  06/30/25
No I'm playing through my backlog I'm in my ps vita era rn
translucent lascivious ticket booth multi-billionaire
  06/30/25
Brilliant game and story telling. This is the sort of thing...
Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse
  06/30/25
(Kojima sheds a tear)
Chocolate rehab
  06/30/25
I will absolutely play DS2 but not going to have time to dig...
Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse
  06/30/25
It’s not that much of a beast. Seems to be Shorter tha...
Chocolate rehab
  06/30/25
I played it. It was fine and I was addicted for a little bi...
Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse
  09/25/25
lmao proof that xoxo is retarded and jewish. oh wow games...
idiotic forum kitty cat
  09/25/25
Yea man, all games suck except for FromSoft games and clones...
Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse
  09/25/25
oh wow the dumb faggot who says "go back to reddit"...
idiotic forum kitty cat
  09/26/25
It is on my to do list.
Gay soggy hall
  06/30/25
It's called a Backlog champ
translucent lascivious ticket booth multi-billionaire
  06/30/25
...
tantric titillating home newt
  09/25/25
You should just play this one
Pea-brained Ceo
  07/11/25
im doing all the end game content now. i wish this stuff ope...
thirsty overrated prole
  07/21/25
I just started and it seems like a potential Triumph. We'll ...
Violet nowag
  09/25/25
...
tantric titillating home newt
  09/25/25
UE5 rock walls
galvanic amethyst philosopher-king stag film
  09/25/25
No one has and it’s Forgotten
Chocolate rehab
  09/25/25
Gtfo
razzle-dazzle sanctuary sandwich
  09/25/25
It's in your Backlog ffs. you haven't played it a single fuc...
Chocolate rehab
  09/25/25
I fail to see how that’s relevant.
razzle-dazzle sanctuary sandwich
  09/25/25
🙄
Chocolate rehab
  09/25/25
...
tantric titillating home newt
  09/25/25
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translucent lascivious ticket booth multi-billionaire
  09/25/25
first two acts nice, gets boring third act. either OP or one...
Orchid maniacal macaca new version
  09/25/25
No western game is "balanced"
Chocolate rehab
  09/26/25
I thought BG3 was balanced. Even in the end, being somewhat ...
Orchid maniacal macaca new version
  09/26/25
Update: played through most of it (acts 1-2) over the past w...
Violet nowag
  09/30/25
It is a triumph. Some cool fights in Act 3 but you might wa...
Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse
  10/01/25
I finished it. The last act was definitely the weak point of...
Violet nowag
  10/03/25
For story you basically do the loyalty quest and finish the ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  11/10/25
I thought this was the best game of the last several years. ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  11/10/25


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Date: June 28th, 2025 12:07 AM
Author: Pea-brained Ceo

Mind blowing story in that game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49055512)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 12:13 AM
Author: idiotic forum kitty cat

if you mean "fucking retarded" I agree. great start but it goes absolutely nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49055518)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Pea-brained Ceo

lol haha wtf bro that’s absolutely the opposite of the truth. Nobody disputes that it goes “somewhere” because the story is fully explained and realized. How far did you get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49056037)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: idiotic forum kitty cat

i beat the whole game. literally nothing happens. it has the plot depth and pacing of a fetch quest laden open-world MMORPG. it has one of the dumbest "twists" of all time and then the amount they flesh out the whole "painters/writers" feud is laughable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303270)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: Comical hyperactive casino

The main tension is concluded with act2, but act3's arc is still profound and 180. Addressing the rampant escapism prevalent in modern life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49056618)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: Chocolate rehab

I don’t spend more than like $10 on western games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49056038)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:12 AM
Author: Pea-brained Ceo

It’s Free on Gamepass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49056043)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: Chocolate rehab

Gamepass isn’t free. I don’t spend more than $240/yr on games, therefore it costs money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49056045)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Pea-brained Ceo

I forgot you are Poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49056105)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:54 AM
Author: Chocolate rehab

I have PS5. Xbox is for poor people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49056118)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 12:05 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle sanctuary sandwich

You don’t even have the Pro. Your Death Stranding 2 purchase decimated your Net Worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49056136)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Chocolate rehab

I got the 229,99 Loser Edition too. I am your better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49056573)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Gay soggy hall

The best way of doing this is to have an Xbox, have Gamepass and then Nvidia Geforce Now streaming. Then you stream to your 42-48" oled screen in 4k at 120hz via your laptop. Better than the PS5 Pro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060663)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: Gay soggy hall

You can routinely get gamepass on sale. At ~$150/year (sometimes less) that is 3ish games/year. You'll probably buy several more games anyway but you'll also play like 5-10 games on gamepass, so unless you very rarely game it is a fantastic deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060657)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: thriller range

Amazing game. Square acknowledged that it needs to go back to making turn based RPGs because E33 was a huge success

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49056599)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Comical hyperactive casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49056612)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 10:02 PM
Author: Pea-brained Ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49057140)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: thirsty overrated prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060099)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49418981)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle sanctuary sandwich

The Paintress did nothing wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060064)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:28 AM
Author: thirsty overrated prole

what a triumph. the dodge/parry mechanic is a great way to make turn based rpgs not purely a grind/math fest. could've used a minimap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060112)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: thriller range

Nah, not including the minimap was a great idea. More games should copy e33 and elden ring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060167)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: thirsty overrated prole

yeah i get it and like the old school rpg vibes but i keep running around like a retard and unintentionally grinding when id rather retain the difficulty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060427)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse

Overall lack of mini map was good for immersion but I got turned around a lot and was hard to reorient myself. They could’ve done a better job with more in-game landmarks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060662)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: thirsty overrated prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49061221)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:43 PM
Author: idiotic forum kitty cat

lol bro you're retarded. none of the areas even have complex layouts. u would have been fucked during the PS1/Dreamcast/PS2 era.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303273)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:45 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle sanctuary sandwich

cowshit says “I never know where to go in western games” and I don’t get it at all, they all practically hold your hand the entire way through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303276)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:47 PM
Author: idiotic forum kitty cat

imagine him trying to play some game with old school map design like OG Tomb Raider or Turok or Shadowman and just getting lost in a single section of a level for hours dying over and over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303278)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse

I just ended up going backwards a bit and wasted some time. Had a similar issue in Rebirth which i loved too. Was never an issue in From games.

PS1 and Dreamcast games were easy. How could anyone get lost in the simple layouts in Grandia and Skies of Arcadia? Most PS1 games were just pre-rendered. The 3D stuff like Xenogears wasn’t hard to get around and was only annoying because of random battles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303758)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:22 AM
Author: idiotic forum kitty cat

(guy who got lost in the Kislev sewers for hours and fell down the Tower of Babel 20 times and is now trying to play it off by blaming the encounter rate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49304380)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:24 AM
Author: Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse

Kislev sewers was annoying but fine.

I do admit I had some rough falls in the tower and might’ve yelled at my tv a few times. Isn’t that a right of passage though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49304382)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Gay soggy hall

Elden Ring was honestly a big letdown and one of the few games I regret buying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060668)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: thriller range

(Doodikoff)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49061252)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: thirsty overrated prole

this is a great game for doodikoff. he can finally feel like he beat a souls type game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49061258)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: translucent lascivious ticket booth multi-billionaire

No I'm playing through my backlog I'm in my ps vita era rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060207)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse

Brilliant game and story telling. This is the sort of thing FF should be striving to be.

Between this and Kingdom Come 2, games are on fire this year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060458)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:55 PM
Author: Chocolate rehab

(Kojima sheds a tear)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060532)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse

I will absolutely play DS2 but not going to have time to dig into that beast for at least a month or so. Everything I’ve heard about it is positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060567)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: Chocolate rehab

It’s not that much of a beast. Seems to be Shorter than the first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060625)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse

I played it. It was fine and I was addicted for a little bit but got bored about halfway through. Not sure I’m going to finish. Digging Silksong right now but have a feeling I’ll lose interest in this before the end too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303769)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:45 PM
Author: idiotic forum kitty cat

lmao proof that xoxo is retarded and jewish.

oh wow games are "on fire" because of a Two Worlds 2 clone that lets you protect jews and fuck other men in the ass. and a slop JRPG with a cast of man-jawed lesbians and an underdeveloped plot but decent graphics. wow it's a fucking renaissance. faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303277)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:53 PM
Author: Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse

Yea man, all games suck except for FromSoft games and clones. Go make some more posts about your 5090. What an odd dude who posts all the time about his gaming PC but hates games. Go back to Reddit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303765)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: idiotic forum kitty cat

oh wow the dumb faggot who says "go back to reddit" just so happens to have the exact same taste in games as the median redditor. they LOVE Kingdom Slop 2 and Troon Obscur there.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49304384)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: Gay soggy hall

It is on my to do list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060584)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: translucent lascivious ticket booth multi-billionaire

It's called a Backlog champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49060595)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: tantric titillating home newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49304019)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Pea-brained Ceo

You should just play this one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49093156)



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Date: July 21st, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: thirsty overrated prole

im doing all the end game content now. i wish this stuff opened up after the end of the main story as im sure ill one shot the final boss now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49118455)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Violet nowag

I just started and it seems like a potential Triumph. We'll see what unfolds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49302644)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: tantric titillating home newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303164)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: galvanic amethyst philosopher-king stag film

UE5 rock walls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303150)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Chocolate rehab

No one has and it’s Forgotten

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303171)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle sanctuary sandwich

Gtfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303205)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: Chocolate rehab

It's in your Backlog ffs. you haven't played it a single fucking SECOND.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303449)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle sanctuary sandwich

I fail to see how that’s relevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303681)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 10:36 PM
Author: Chocolate rehab

🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303894)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: tantric titillating home newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49304018)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:50 PM
Author: translucent lascivious ticket booth multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303282)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: Orchid maniacal macaca new version

first two acts nice, gets boring third act. either OP or one shotted. needs more balance.

but still good game. worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49303571)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Chocolate rehab

No western game is "balanced"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49304392)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Orchid maniacal macaca new version

I thought BG3 was balanced. Even in the end, being somewhat OP, things were still a little difficult.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49304843)



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Date: September 30th, 2025 5:17 PM
Author: Violet nowag

Update: played through most of it (acts 1-2) over the past week+ and it is indeed a Triumph. Kind of annoying how I ended act 2 at level 48 thinking I was close to wrapping up the game but every act 3 zone seems to be 10+ levels higher though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49315584)



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Date: October 1st, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: Rebellious narrow-minded halford bawdyhouse

It is a triumph. Some cool fights in Act 3 but you might want to beeline and finish the story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49317505)



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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: Violet nowag

I finished it. The last act was definitely the weak point of the game, but still overall very good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49323075)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


For story you basically do the loyalty quest and finish the game. Everything else are just challenges (the endless tower, for example).

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Date: November 10th, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


I thought this was the best game of the last several years. Memorable story with characters you actually care about, mechanics were great, and the sort of game you think about after beating it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2.#49418990)