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slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  04/09/23
T. Cruise is the top dog of all time, other than De Niro.
unhinged deranged native cuckold
  04/09/23
Do you approve of Frank TJ Mackey?
slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  04/09/23
Brad Pitt
red hideous affirmative action
  04/09/23
Why?
slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  04/09/23
Fight Club, Fury
rusted painfully honest clown business firm
  12/14/23
Tom cruise is the GOAT
shaky rambunctious menage
  04/09/23
Explain?
slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  04/09/23
More iconic movies. More handsome. He pwned Brad Pitt in Int...
shaky rambunctious menage
  04/09/23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsJ6BdQuUxo
slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  04/09/23
Not sure he's more handsome.
bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage
  12/16/23
Cruise
Comical spot messiness
  04/09/23
Care to share why?
slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  04/09/23
Way better movies. I actually preferred peak pitt but lots o...
Comical spot messiness
  04/09/23
if we don't get a couple of thousand words of Cowgod clique ...
Kink-friendly party of the first part
  04/09/23
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slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  04/09/23
I’ve been here 15 years and I’ve never seen a co...
Ruby Field
  04/09/23
if Tom Cruise had even just Brad Pitt's height 90% of the wo...
soul-stirring beta parlour
  04/09/23
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doobsian buck-toothed home pozpig
  04/09/23
that tom cruise has achieved so much despite his height is p...
disgusting indian lodge patrolman
  12/15/23
A better comparison would be Matt Damon vs Tom Cruise
Embarrassed to the bone irradiated property pocket flask
  04/09/23
That would also go to cruise lol
Comical spot messiness
  04/09/23
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lake violent hall
  04/09/23
Cruise wins that one. The Martian and the Talented Mr. Ripl...
rusted painfully honest clown business firm
  12/15/23
the martian? go back to reddit
Mauve location
  12/15/23
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Motley Codepig Temple
  12/15/23
good book, good film I also like the first Bourne movie
rusted painfully honest clown business firm
  12/15/23
Cruise x10
ungodly kitty
  04/09/23
Thoughts on Collateral?
slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  04/09/23
its about Kamala Harris
soul-stirring beta parlour
  04/09/23
?
slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  04/09/23
all of the stuff that happened in collatteral happened irl t...
soul-stirring beta parlour
  04/09/23
Cruise and isn’t close
balding theatre faggot firefighter
  04/09/23
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Sickened Deep Lay
  12/14/23
Pitt just plays Chads. No range. Imagine him playing a chara...
Ruby Field
  04/09/23
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doobsian buck-toothed home pozpig
  04/09/23
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slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  04/09/23
Brad Pitt is Shorter than us all but he’s a Chad. Chad...
Ruby Field
  04/09/23
he doesn’t have the mental capacity for that. He&rsqu...
balding theatre faggot firefighter
  04/09/23
It’s not about mental capacity. Chads don’t even...
Ruby Field
  04/09/23
Explain leo then
balding theatre faggot firefighter
  04/09/23
leo isnt a chad
lake violent hall
  04/09/23
Leo is awesome in a way. It’s cool how he was awesome ...
Ruby Field
  04/09/23
Leo peaked as a teen and is coasting on familiarity and char...
dashing church
  12/15/23
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slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  12/14/23
ppl used to understand that Pitt was just a pretty face
Sickened Deep Lay
  12/14/23
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slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  12/15/23
How is this a question? It’s Cruise
Maize internal respiration mother
  12/15/23
have you seen Fight Club? Fury?
rusted painfully honest clown business firm
  12/15/23
Risky Business Top Gun 1&2 Days of Thunder A Few Goo...
Maize internal respiration mother
  12/15/23
Collateral
bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage
  12/16/23
Compare with Pitt: Fight Club Ocean's 11 Troy Benjamin...
Maize internal respiration mother
  12/15/23
Plus Pitt wasn't even the lead actor in a lot of those movie...
iridescent at-the-ready masturbator hell
  12/15/23
Pitt based on his height /thread
Mustard Well-lubricated Indirect Expression Therapy
  12/15/23
Brad Pitt is 5'11". Nothing to write home about imo
Arrogant Khaki Trailer Park
  12/15/23
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slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  12/16/23
Cruise just based on his 80s output alone beats Pitt/Damon. ...
iridescent at-the-ready masturbator hell
  12/15/23
Pitt is a better actor, Cruise makes better movies
fuchsia naked den
  12/15/23
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Brilliant dopamine site
  12/15/23
Just came in here to say that cruise is a better actor.
Poppy locus
  12/16/23
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bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage
  12/16/23
Pitt's not even a particularly good actor.
bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage
  12/16/23
Easily cruise. It's not remotely close. Anyone saying differ...
bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage
  12/16/23
Best Cruise film, fag?
slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  12/16/23
His best performance? Maybe a few good men or collateral or ...
bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage
  12/16/23
They’re the last two movie stars, either way
erotic thriller headpube
  12/16/23
Leo
bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage
  12/16/23
Cruise was our Newman. Pitt was our Travolta.
geriatric philosopher-king cumskin
  12/16/23
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slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  12/16/23
idk but I think Pitt will win in the end, he can pull off th...
spectacular bright alpha
  12/16/23
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slap-happy principal's office lettuce
  01/03/24
Cruise because the 80s were a bigger and better decade than ...
Ass Sunstein
  12/10/25


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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:52 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165639)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:52 PM
Author: unhinged deranged native cuckold

T. Cruise is the top dog of all time, other than De Niro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165641)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:54 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce

Do you approve of Frank TJ Mackey?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165646)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:57 PM
Author: red hideous affirmative action

Brad Pitt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165656)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:58 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165661)



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Date: December 14th, 2023 8:41 PM
Author: rusted painfully honest clown business firm

Fight Club, Fury

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47172012)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:59 PM
Author: shaky rambunctious menage

Tom cruise is the GOAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165664)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:59 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce

Explain?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165667)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:03 PM
Author: shaky rambunctious menage

More iconic movies. More handsome. He pwned Brad Pitt in Interview with a Vampire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165681)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:04 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsJ6BdQuUxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165682)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:32 AM
Author: bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage

Not sure he's more handsome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176262)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:59 PM
Author: Comical spot messiness

Cruise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165665)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:59 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce

Care to share why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165668)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:07 PM
Author: Comical spot messiness

Way better movies. I actually preferred peak pitt but lots of his movies sucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165696)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:01 PM
Author: Kink-friendly party of the first part

if we don't get a couple of thousand words of Cowgod clique theory analysis of these two bros' oeuvres i'll be disappointed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165670)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:01 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165673)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:09 PM
Author: Ruby Field

I’ve been here 15 years and I’ve never seen a cowgod post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165702)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:02 PM
Author: soul-stirring beta parlour

if Tom Cruise had even just Brad Pitt's height 90% of the world population would be scientologist by now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165679)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:08 PM
Author: doobsian buck-toothed home pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165698)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 11:03 AM
Author: disgusting indian lodge patrolman

that tom cruise has achieved so much despite his height is proof scientology is true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173703)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:05 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone irradiated property pocket flask

A better comparison would be Matt Damon vs Tom Cruise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165690)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:08 PM
Author: Comical spot messiness

That would also go to cruise lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165699)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:31 PM
Author: lake violent hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165794)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 5:31 AM
Author: rusted painfully honest clown business firm

Cruise wins that one.

The Martian and the Talented Mr. Ripley are great but < Cruise's body of work is 5X greater

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173120)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 8:09 AM
Author: Mauve location

the martian? go back to reddit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173356)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 8:09 AM
Author: Motley Codepig Temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173357)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 9:15 AM
Author: rusted painfully honest clown business firm

good book, good film

I also like the first Bourne movie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173468)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:09 PM
Author: ungodly kitty

Cruise x10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165704)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:13 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce

Thoughts on Collateral?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165718)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:15 PM
Author: soul-stirring beta parlour

its about Kamala Harris

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165732)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:17 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165737)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:18 PM
Author: soul-stirring beta parlour

all of the stuff that happened in collatteral happened irl to kamala harris

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165742)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:16 PM
Author: balding theatre faggot firefighter

Cruise and isn’t close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165735)



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Date: December 14th, 2023 8:42 PM
Author: Sickened Deep Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47172014)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:23 PM
Author: Ruby Field

Pitt just plays Chads. No range. Imagine him playing a character who gave a shit about anything like Cruise in a few good men or born on the fourth of july

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165765)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:24 PM
Author: doobsian buck-toothed home pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165769)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:32 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165798)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:43 PM
Author: Ruby Field

Brad Pitt is Shorter than us all but he’s a Chad. Chads don’t experience negative emotions hence they don’t have anything to tap into. Pitt’s signature role is Tyler Durden who is just an arch chad who dgaf. Tristan Ludlow from xo LOTF is along the same vein. His non-dgaf characters are eminently forgettable. Nobody cares about 7 years in Tibet.

Cruise is a Short Chad-esque character so hes experienced the full gamut of emotions, so he’s a better actor. Serious actors like DDL have to torture themselves artificially to experience the ignominy of the Short imo. People wonder why Tall Guys suck at acting and it’s the same reason they suck at writing. No inner life to tap into. When Tall guys talk you can see the results on this board — 70% of the time they just state their heights. People wrote Crichton’s books for him bc he was 6’9. Also I’m not even sure how Short Cruise actually is, I think he just dated Tall women so people think he’s 4’11.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165834)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:24 PM
Author: balding theatre faggot firefighter

he doesn’t have the mental capacity for that. He’s a retard pothead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165772)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:29 PM
Author: Ruby Field

It’s not about mental capacity. Chads don’t even experience negative emotions irl so they can’t convey them on screen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165786)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:30 PM
Author: balding theatre faggot firefighter

Explain leo then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165789)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:42 PM
Author: lake violent hall

leo isnt a chad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165830)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:48 PM
Author: Ruby Field

Leo is awesome in a way. It’s cool how he was awesome in Gilbert grape, was mediocre in Titanic but still intense, was way overboard to an unrealistic extent in The Departed (was supposed to be undercover and acted like an undercover cop about to lose it in front of the bad guys), Blood Diamond is a sleeper classic, and the list goes on. However because he autistically dates models he is not a true Chad imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#46165848)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 12:36 PM
Author: dashing church

Leo peaked as a teen and is coasting on familiarity and charm in adult roles. Gilbert Grape and Basketball Diaries are his best performances. The fact that no one says this publicly is indicative of the decline of American film culture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173940)



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Date: December 14th, 2023 8:35 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47171971)



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Date: December 14th, 2023 8:43 PM
Author: Sickened Deep Lay

ppl used to understand that Pitt was just a pretty face

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47172019)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 2:45 AM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173018)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 4:19 AM
Author: Maize internal respiration mother

How is this a question? It’s Cruise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173082)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 5:32 AM
Author: rusted painfully honest clown business firm

have you seen Fight Club? Fury?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173122)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 10:57 AM
Author: Maize internal respiration mother

Risky Business

Top Gun 1&2

Days of Thunder

A Few Good Men

The Firm

Every Mission Impossible

Jerry Maguire

Eyes Wide Shut

Minority Report

Last Samurai

etc

etc



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173685)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:28 AM
Author: bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage

Collateral

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176249)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 10:59 AM
Author: Maize internal respiration mother

Compare with Pitt:

Fight Club

Ocean's 11

Troy

Benjamin Button (lol)

Moneyball

Inglorious Basterds

World War Z

Fury

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173692)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 11:00 AM
Author: iridescent at-the-ready masturbator hell

Plus Pitt wasn't even the lead actor in a lot of those movies. Cruise always is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173694)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 5:32 AM
Author: Mustard Well-lubricated Indirect Expression Therapy

Pitt based on his height /thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173123)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 8:15 AM
Author: Arrogant Khaki Trailer Park

Brad Pitt is 5'11". Nothing to write home about imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173359)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 8:42 AM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176185)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 8:12 AM
Author: iridescent at-the-ready masturbator hell

Cruise just based on his 80s output alone beats Pitt/Damon. Cruise was the iconic movie star of his generation. Nobody comes close except maybe Arnold, but he was much less of an "actor".

Part of it is just that he became famous earlier, when being a movie star was a much bigger thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173358)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 10:59 AM
Author: fuchsia naked den

Pitt is a better actor, Cruise makes better movies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173690)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 11:21 AM
Author: Brilliant dopamine site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47173746)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:03 AM
Author: Poppy locus

Just came in here to say that cruise is a better actor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176207)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:27 AM
Author: bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176245)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:28 AM
Author: bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage

Pitt's not even a particularly good actor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176248)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:27 AM
Author: bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage

Easily cruise. It's not remotely close. Anyone saying different has been influenced by the anti-scientology lobby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176244)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:28 AM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce

Best Cruise film, fag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176250)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:31 AM
Author: bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage

His best performance? Maybe a few good men or collateral or born on the 4th of July.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176257)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:30 AM
Author: erotic thriller headpube

They’re the last two movie stars, either way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176256)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:31 AM
Author: bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe stage

Leo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176258)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:34 AM
Author: geriatric philosopher-king cumskin

Cruise was our Newman. Pitt was our Travolta.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47176268)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 6:58 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47177934)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 7:00 PM
Author: spectacular bright alpha

idk but I think Pitt will win in the end, he can pull off the Redford thing where I don't think Cruise can keep the boyish thing up forever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2.#47177943)



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Date: January 3rd, 2024 7:16 PM
Author: slap-happy principal's office lettuce



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Date: December 10th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

Cruise because the 80s were a bigger and better decade than the 90s for mass culture and movie stars in general.

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