Shoot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188191)

describe your apotheosis over the years, body high etc

does it actyually make u smarter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188203)

First got one in UG from a super-shady doctor. After that it was always easy AF. Just find a random psych on insurance company's website, go in, say I used to take it but stopped, and get the script. Didn't start having prescriptions or taking it regularly until my 30s though. In hindsight, I largely "needed" it to make up for my multi-day hangovers that used to generally last through Wednesday back before I had kids and used to party.

"describe your apotheosis over the years, body high etc"

I only took 40mg of Vyvance (equivalent to ~15 mg of adderall) + occasional 5mg Adderall "booster." Never had a body high or anything. Never took more than that. Would either take weekends fully off, one day of the weekend off, or significantly lower dose on weekends. Never took full daily dose 7 days per week.

"does it actyually make u smarter"

No. It just makes boring shit exciting. I would sort of look into getting into work in the morning with a moderate addy high and getting shit done. Caused me to waste plenty of time -- eg. spend 2 hours on something I should have spend 30 minutes on. On balance, though, it did make me more productive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188484)

Also it means quick rundown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188504)

Mostly because it became extremely hard to get because of shortages. I got my last prescription in March or some shit and was never able to fill it. If I dedicated 5 hours a day to it and called the doc a hundred times to move the script between pharmacies, maybe I could have gotten it filled. I had stock built up, so I had enough for a while. I never ran out, but when I had a week long vacation at the start of July I stopped taking it. No significant withdrawls and when I started work back up a week later, I barely noticed a difference compared to when I was on it.

(I think this might be because, as a result of the Vyvanse shortage, the pills I had been taking were underpowered AF.)

"have you noticed permanent changes?"

No. I was fine the first week I was off, and going back to work ~10 days after stopping was totally fine. (Keep in mind, I was taking much less than a lot of other people who take it -- just the equivilant to 15mg of Adderal / day with 1-2 day breaks every week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188498)

I used to take it for school but stopped because the come downs made me extremely depressed.

Without it I'm aimless. With it I get stuck on unimportant tasks. Overall better without it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188501)

Yeah. Odly enough, the busier I am the less the meds mattered. When am really busy with urgent shit, I am going to get it done no matter what. The hard part is when there's nothing big/urgent on my plate -- but there are a million small things or small parts of long term projects to do. Now that I'm mature, I'm ontop of everything though.

"Do you feel smarter or dumber now?"

Same. Just less "in the zone" for lots of boring shit.

"Overall better without it."

Agreed. For me this is especially because I now have MUCH MUCH more energy in the evenings and on the weekends. On Amphetamines, I would be tired AS FUCk when I got off work. Now I have decent energy for a few hours afterwards.

Same for the weekends because I wouldnt take it (or would take much less). I basically spent the weekends the past 5 years being tired/lethargic as fuck, but just using willpower to power through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188514)

But by maybe 2pm I was back to baseline, and by ~5pm I was significantly worse off as compared to not being on it at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188535)

Never really took enough to have any dry mouth or anything like that. Plus Vyvanse is better than Adderall in that regard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188527)

I take a SHIT LOAD of Nicotine, which I speculate helped.

I also upped my Caffiene intake bigly when I got off. Probably also helped a little.

I also always consistently excercise every day, eat healthy AF, sleep well, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188539)

Never noticed a difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188546)

~1000mg of Caffiene per day.

Plus around 150mg of Nicotine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188549)

NW: ~3MM

Age: Late 30s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188577)

I do plan on cutting my caffeine back down next time I'm off of work for a week or so.

We'll probably cut nicotine down by about half as well.

Going to give it a few more months though at least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49189000)

Your brain is fucked and you will never be employable again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188568)

Heavy users who stop are basically lobotomized. Know several such cases, very sad shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188616)

One weird thing I noticed when I stopped addy was that I didn’t crave dip at all anymore. Like I just stopped thinking about it at all. One day i just i realized I hadn’t put a dip in like a week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49188851)

I'm sure I could have put in effort having prescription change and talking to dr's offices and calling pharmacys and all that b*******. When I know I shouldn't be taking this time in the first place, for health reasons, better just to use it as an ex to stop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49190697)

Zero awaken so far.

Appetite hasn't really increased either.

That said, I expect yane 1:00 or 2 lb over the course of a year.

I have an extremely strict diet that I didn't change at all. The so anyway game would come from lower heart rate etc.

If I put on more than one or two lb of fat, I'll just add in a little more cardio and that will go away.

I've never had a problem staying very lean through pure willpower and not being weak lazy faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49189013)

(1) Sex Drive: No noticeable change

(2) Erections: No noticeable change

(3) Autism: I was hoping getting off it would make me at least a little less autistic. Sadly, no change in autism. Still extremely autistic.

(4) Sleep (as measured by Aura ring): I sleep about 30-40 minutes more. I naturally wake up ~30 minutes later, fall asleep about 5 minutes faster, and gain another ~5 minutes in waking up less in the middle of the night.

(5) Sleep (subjective): Other than naturally waking up 30 minutes later, I would not have noticed anything in #4 if I didn't sleep track.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49195219)

1&2- adderall made me insanely horny but I’ve had at least 2 nights where i literally could not get an erection at all with very hot girls. One of these was the hottest girl i was absolutely head over heels for and could not make it work. Huge disappointment and never got that opportunity with her again

3 - personality was an absolute robot on addy. I’m still pretty autistic and can be shy in certain situations but way easier to socialize now. Part of this I think is I was immune to booze on addy

4&5 - probably pretty similar. Obviously you can stay up for days on end but when I crashed it felt like great sleep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49195599)

The past week or so, I've found it VERY difficult to get anything done at work.

Energy levels are fine, but every small task takes a mountain of willpower. This wasnt the case when I was only a 10 days off. I think the Adderall did some longer-term rewiring of my brain that is only now wearing off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49214762)

Turns out I was just a little bit sick, which was draining my energy / willpower.

Back in good shape being productive without amphetamines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762780&forum_id=2.#49220207)