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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Spectacular spot Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: out-of-control lodge Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Spectacular spot (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: out-of-control lodge They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Spectacular spot read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: bat shit crazy clown Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49065184) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Naked Cracking Jew I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48985033) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: balding market i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: medicated area wagecucks Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49065026) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: 180 Grizzly Water Buffalo It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: glassy friendly grandma it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: 180 Grizzly Water Buffalo Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Galvanic Codepig Trailer Park actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: floppy unhinged library roast beef "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49838410) |