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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Tripping theater stage Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Hairraiser Property just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Hairraiser Property (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49070377) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49141968) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49422254) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49454945) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49484832) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49529071) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:08 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49838395) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 7:20 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49884309) |
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Date: May 21st, 2026 5:25 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49893306) |
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Date: May 25th, 2026 6:16 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49900593) |
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Date: May 26th, 2026 8:51 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49903004) |
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Date: May 28th, 2026 5:55 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49905466) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2026 5:16 PM Author: Hairraiser Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49913565) |
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Date: July 7th, 2026 11:56 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49985467) |
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Date: July 8th, 2026 7:24 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49987106) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: demanding insanely creepy business firm Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Aqua galvanic roast beef faggotry Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: demanding insanely creepy business firm (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Aqua galvanic roast beef faggotry They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy business firm read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: obsidian wild sound barrier puppy Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Arousing chest-beating university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: laughsome therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: filthy ruddy house what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: odious fiercely-loyal hall cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: slippery lettuce I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: obsidian wild sound barrier puppy teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: scarlet misanthropic legal warrant box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: provocative ticket booth i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Jet-lagged Charcoal Legend Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Avocado motley hell background story really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: talented lake deer antler It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: know-it-all beta locus goal in life it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: talented lake deer antler Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Avocado motley hell background story actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: naked diverse plaza 13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails
you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: naked diverse plaza "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2.#49838410) |